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12-20-2013, 06:45 PM
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A loopy, disjointed, nonsensical topic. But another.
And speaking of other topics, why is homosexuality equated with bestiality? I've never understood the correlation. I don't like the correlation between homosexuality and pedophilia but at least there is some truth to some boys are molested by gay men. Extrapolating out is wrong, but it's not apples are not oranges so cars should drive on the right side of the road.
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12-20-2013, 07:10 PM
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A loopy, disjointed, nonsensical topic. But another.
And speaking of other topics, why is homosexuality equated with bestiality? I've never understood the correlation. I don't like the correlation between homosexuality and pedophilia but at least there is some truth to some boys are molested by gay men. Extrapolating out is wrong, but it's not apples are not oranges so cars should drive on the right side of the road.
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My personal interpretation / understanding is that a sin is an "either/or" act - either you commit a sin, or you don't.
There are no degrees or different levels of sin, as we like to say about lies, e.g., "a big lie" vs. a "little white lie" (no pun intended).
My personal understanding is that the right type of relationship is between a married man and woman. Anything other than that is sinful, be it fornication, adultery, prostitution, bestiality and homosexuality.
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12-20-2013, 08:50 PM
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My personal interpretation / understanding is that a sin is an "either/or" act - either you commit a sin, or you don't.
There are no degrees or different levels of sin, as we like to say about lies, e.g., "a big lie" vs. a "little white lie" (no pun intended).
My personal understanding is that the right type of relationship is between a married man and woman. Anything other than that is sinful, be it fornication, adultery, prostitution, bestiality and homosexuality.
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Meanwhile, I have yet to see a tattoo/shellfish/mixed fabric/divorce/women menstruating indoors rally or debate on the news.
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12-20-2013, 10:20 PM
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Meanwhile, I have yet to see a tattoo/shellfish/mixed fabric/divorce/women menstruating indoors rally or debate on the news.
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You're awesome. If we weren't allowed to menstruate indoors, would we continue to get paid for our time off work? Or would they have to set up my computer outside? And that mixed fabric rally? I am SOOOOO in. You KNOW those poly-cotton blenders are going to hell.
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12-20-2013, 10:32 PM
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You're awesome. If we weren't allowed to menstruate indoors, would we continue to get paid for our time off work? Or would they have to set up my computer outside? And that mixed fabric rally? I am SOOOOO in. You KNOW those poly-cotton blenders are going to hell.
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12-20-2013, 11:09 PM
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Meanwhile, I have yet to see a tattoo/shellfish/mixed fabric/divorce/women menstruating indoors rally or debate on the news.
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IMO that's because those groups don't seem to have as much of a strong political voice. Or even make a strong political and financial impact / difference.
We are a money-driven nation. Issues only really matter here when a lot of money is at stake. There is money to be made as a result of gay marriage. If its in your financial interest to push for gay marriage, then you will.
(I'm looking at you, all you divorce lawyers......)
We can talk about what is and is not truly moral all day. I doubt one side will really convince the other.
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12-21-2013, 08:23 AM
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IMO that's because those groups don't seem to have as much of a strong political voice. Or even make a strong political and financial impact / difference.
We are a money-driven nation. Issues only really matter here when a lot of money is at stake. There is money to be made as a result of gay marriage. If its in your financial interest to push for gay marriage, then you will.
(I'm looking at you, all you divorce lawyers......)
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12-21-2013, 09:00 PM
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(I'm looking at you, all you divorce lawyers......)
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I've been saying this for years
If nothing else, gay couples splitting maybe have an arguable argument that their partnership is a legal partnership and they are due the protection of the courts, but I haven't had the opportunity to try that yet. I'm sure our civil judges would love me bringing essentially a divorce case to them though. Hope I get that opportunity before we just get 'em divorced like everyone else.
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12-20-2013, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by sigmadiva
My personal interpretation / understanding is that a sin is an "either/or" act - either you commit a sin, or you don't.
There are no degrees or different levels of sin, as we like to say about lies, e.g., "a big lie" vs. a "little white lie" (no pun intended).
My personal understanding is that the right type of relationship is between a married man and woman. Anything other than that is sinful, be it fornication, adultery, prostitution, bestiality and homosexuality.
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That's specious. No one EVER equates adultery and bestiality or lying and bestiality. It's ALWAYS homosexuality and bestiality like they are equivalent. So if ALL "Sins" are equal (not that I consider being gay a sin but I'm making an argument) why try to make homosexuality seem soooo much worse than other sins by comparing it to what people consider pretty vile when what others are doing isn't considered any better in the site of God?
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12-20-2013, 11:32 PM
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That's specious. No one EVER equates adultery and bestiality or lying and bestiality. It's ALWAYS homosexuality and bestiality like they are equivalent. So if ALL "Sins" are equal (not that I consider being gay a sin but I'm making an argument) why try to make homosexuality seem soooo much worse than other sins by comparing it to what people consider pretty vile when what others are doing isn't considered any better in the site of God?
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Depends on who you talk to. I know people who do.
You, AOII Angel, may not do so, but there are those who do.
I don't know why some people try to make one sin so much worse than the others. Maybe it gives them comfort to do so because it fits their agenda.
The only other reason as to why some may make homosexuality seem so much worse than the others is probably because its counter to our natural biological purpose of reproduction. Looking at it from a simplified evolutionary point of view - our species can not survive if we are not producing any offspring.
But, on the other hand, when you really think about it the other sins are still considered taboo.
As I stated, my understanding is that a sin is a sin is a sin. There are no "little sins", "big sins", "kinda-almost-sin", or "this is not a sin because I said so".
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12-21-2013, 06:40 PM
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Depends on who you talk to. I know people who do.
You, AOII Angel, may not do so, but there are those who do.
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LOL. I can see the news report now: "Why do we allow these individuals to get tattoos? If we let this slide, next thing you'll know we'll be letting dogs marry ottomans. It's a slippery slope!"
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The only other reason as to why some may make homosexuality seem so much worse than the others is probably because its counter to our natural biological purpose of reproduction. Looking at it from a simplified evolutionary point of view - our species can not survive if we are not producing any offspring.
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If reproduction is the crux of the issue, why not allow homosexuals who HAVE reproduced to get married? They've fulfilled their good Christian duties, no? Also, when do we start annulling all those pesky marriages between people who are infertile/past child-bearing years/just don't want to have children?
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But, on the other hand, when you really think about it the other sins are still considered taboo.
As I stated, my understanding is that a sin is a sin is a sin. There are no "little sins", "big sins", "kinda-almost-sin", or "this is not a sin because I said so".
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This isn't directed to you, but until I see a task force to ban Red Lobster, all clothing stores, and divorces, I think this "argument" is bullshit.
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12-21-2013, 01:21 AM
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I learned one very important lesson out of this fiasco; 95% of the country has no idea what the 1st Amendment is.
It's also being rumored that the creator of Duck Dynasty is gay.
http://guardianlv.com/2013/12/duck-d...ult-film-star/
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12-21-2013, 11:17 AM
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Thank you for pointing me to do some research on the First Amendment. I held some mistaken beliefs myself. Sheesh! As I read elsewhere, everyone is exercising their right to free speech in this situation (paraphrasing and condensing). What is the sticking point is the idea that we have to agree with one another! Yeah, like that will ever happen.
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12-21-2013, 11:56 AM
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Someone posted on Facebook: "When there is a show about back-woods Bible-thumping rednecks, why does anyone act surprised when they say things typical to back-woods Bible-thumping rednecks?" I thought this was apt.
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12-21-2013, 10:56 PM
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Someone posted on Facebook: "When there is a show about back-woods Bible-thumping rednecks, why does anyone act surprised when they say things typical to back-woods Bible-thumping rednecks?" I thought this was apt.
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I don't think people are surprised at what he said. All of the social media outrage I've seen is about the fact that he got canned for "exercising his free speech", cuz that allows you to get away with saying anything you want. I wonder why all of the people who've ever been fired because of fb posts and tweets can't use that one...
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