University of Mississippi - Ole Miss Panhellenic Sorority Recruitment 2013

[MU2Driver]

Originally Posted by pnm13

Anyways: Does it mean anything (Is it important? Not? Good? Bad?) if the Vice President or President of the sorority personally introduces herself and has small talk with one or two of the PNMs during the water party rounds?

Concur with the other answers posted. I would also add that it may help you to keep in perspective what the Water Parties are. They are merely initial introductory opportunities for the PNMs and the chapters. It is intended to be a casual, get-acquainted event on both sides, notwithstanding the hectic pace.

The most that the sororities are trying to accomplish at this stage in terms of selection is to generally sort the PNMs that they don't know much about into three basic piles (not of equal size):

1) I can really see this girl as an XYZ. Self explanatory. You may find yourself paired with a strong recruiter later in FR.

2) I would like to know more about this girl to see if she is a fit with XYZ. This is where thetalady's advice is important. The actives know who you are now, and if they see your head buried in a trash can at Rooster's during the next three weeks, expect them to take note. Conversely, if you have a chance to make a positive impression in class or elsewhere, your stock will go up.

3) I don't see this girl as an XYZ. At this stage about the only way that happens is if they learned about a QR or you just completely botched the conversation in a way that makes them think you have no social skills whatsoever. Even that is not unrecoverable at this stage (unless perhaps if it was intentional and they find that out).

As an example, my DD told me yesterday about 1 of her 12 PNMs from Sunday. No eye contact, no responsiveness beyond one word answers and grunts, no questions, no expressions of interest of any kind resulted in a painfully long 20 minutes for my already exhausted DD, and not a very high score for the PNM. There are multiple explanations for this, none of them acceptable. Maybe PNM is a quintuple Ole Miss chapter legacy and a direct descendent of a Founder of ABC, but still. The actives know about these situations and/or that the PNMs are under a lot of pressure, but part of maturity is to hold up your end of the conversational bargain anyway. As Dr. Sheldon Cooper (TBBT) might say, "It's a non-optional social convention."

So, if the President or the VP (or any other member) engaged you in conversation, and you responded with something approaching a complete sentence containing a coherent thought, my DD would say, "Yay you!". That's all you needed to accomplish for the day. Hotty Toddy!

[MaryPoppins]

Everything MU2Driver said but especially this:

Originally Posted by MU2Driver

No eye contact, no responsiveness beyond one word answers and grunts, no questions, no expressions of interest of any kind resulted in a painfully long 20 minutes for my already exhausted DD, and not a very high score for the PNM. There are multiple explanations for this, none of them acceptable. Maybe she is a quintuple Ole Miss chapter legacy and a direct descendent of a Founder of ABC, but still. The actives know about these situations and/or that the PNMs are under a lot of pressure, but part of maturity is to hold up your end of the conversational bargain anyway. As Dr. Sheldon Cooper (TBBT) might say, "It's a non-optional social convention."

All PNMs need to know that the Ole Miss Chapters share this information with each other. Don't even begin to think that being rude to one or more chapters will be kept under wraps. The actives have three weeks to share all sorts if information with all of their friends in the other houses. There is absolutely no excuse for being rude as a guest in someone's home, unless of course you are in an ICU bed or under very strong sedating medication. Then, and just then, it might be excusable.

Frankly, if your are rude to me, well then you've just told me more about your family than I personally care to know.

[Titchou]

It means they are doing their job. That's it - nothing more, nothing less. Would you expect they stand in the corner and stare at everyone? The head of any household holding any event should introduce himself/herself to the guests and thank them for coming.

[WCsweet<3]

Originally Posted by Titchou

It means they are doing their job. That's it - nothing more, nothing less. Would you expect they stand in the corner and stare at everyone? The head of any household holding any event should introduce himself/herself to the guests and thank them for coming.

This. They walk around and get to meet PNMs as well. It doesn't necessarily mean anything, but try to make a good impression just like you would with any sister.

[ElvisLover]

I thought the pnms were required to spend the night in their dorms.

[OldOleMiss]

^^^ What MaryPoppins Said^^^ a MILLION TIMES ^^^What MaryPoppins Said^^^ Despite the large pledge classes and seemingly "big size" of chapters- Ole Miss is NOT a big school... and, at least in my day, we all talked to each other! My Sophomore year I lived with one of my best friends from freshman year, she was in a different sorority than I was. A girl came through Coke Party (what is now I guess philanthropy)- and I had the "pleasure" of rushing her. She was beyond blatantly rude to me and my house and told me that she was a double legacy at my roommates house and was definitely planning on pledging there Well, you guessed it- not only did we release her but I shared it all with my roommate that night as we lay exhausted in our beds... who couldn't wait to tell her "real sister"- who yes was in a third different house-- well guess who was not invited back to the house she PLANNED ON pledging? (nor any other house after skit round?). The thing about Ole Miss is every third girl you meet is a double legacy at one house or another, was homecoming queen, 4.0, etc... the houses, more often than not, are looking for more of a reason to release you than to keep you. Rudeness gets around just as quick as a bad rep or "uncouth" behavior... you never know who is living with who, who is related to who, etc... etc...

[ElvisLover]

^^This! My advice to any and all pnms at Ole Miss is to act like every house you visit is the house you want to pledge. You have a better chance of being invited back that way and, if you are foolish enough to buy into the perceived "top tier" tent talk, there's just not enough room in those houses for every girl coming through rush. You should consider yourself fortunate to get a bid anywhere on that campus. Your sorority membership is for a lifetime, not just four years of college.

[ElvisLover]

And to add to what OldOleMiss stated, think about how much faster "word" travels via text messaging now between actives in different houses. The next house a pnm visits might already have your rudeness and disinterest at your previous house QFP'd!

[magnoliacurious]

Midnight last night, as many of you know, was the deadline to sign up for recruitment. Anybody know the final number signed up at Ole Miss?

[pnm13]

Wow! Thank you all so much for the wonderful feedback and advice! Clearly, I am over-analyzing everything, just giving myself something to do while the wait continues I guess! But, I absolutely loved water parties. All of the girls I talked with were so nice, and it was also neat because a lot of the sophomore girls were just as nervous as us PNMs! Knowing this, I did my best to not only answer the questions fully, but I asked the actives lots of questions about themselves, too! It was so so fun to get a glimpse into all of these girls lives. Now, only time will tell.....the wait continues.

[olemissmom2017]

I am a Mom planning to come in that weekend. It has been near impossible to get a room in town during a football weekend, and she wants me there. By that time I won't have seen her in what feels like a really long time! (I could not find a room during parent weekend) I got a room, and she was planning on staying with me at least one night that weekend, since she has had little sleep in the dorms. Is this not recommended? I will be there for opening of the bids and leave town shortly after. She certainly does not need to plan her weekend around me.

[FSUZeta]

Why don't you play it by ear? By the time that weekend rolls around, your daughter might decide that she would rather stay in the dorm with the other rushees. But if she feels she needs a break from campus, she has the hotel room as an alternative.

[MU2Driver]

Nice to see a positive mention of Ole Miss PH on this issue...
http://cw.ua.edu/2013/09/11/the-fina...-still-exists/

[MaryPoppins]

Can you say WOW!

1,394 PNMs registered with Ole Miss Panhellenic through ICS.

[pnm13]

Originally Posted by MaryPoppins

Can you say WOW!

1,394 PNMs registered with Ole Miss Panhellenic through ICS.

So what does this mean for quota, etc?