Portrayal of George W. Bush in international advertisements

[kstar]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Yeah, he is.

And if you decide not to engage in this back-and-forth, please don't announce that you "agree to disagree."

No he isn't. I do NOT recognize his administration as legitimate. I almost wish someone would shoot him, but I don't want to make a martyr of him, as we've made of Saddam.

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Yes, he is. You don't get to pick and choose which President is your President.

Americans who feel this way are silly in their own right. But they can keep that silliness to themselves without celebrating when other countries take jabs at our leaders (and at America, in general).

Agreed.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by kstar

Actually no, I spoke out against Jr. and I was put on the No Fly list and I had to get my lawyer to challenge it. As did several high ranking Democratic party officials, all for absolutely no reason other than the fact that they didn't like him. While he isn't overtly violent, Bush Jr. has and can use subversive tactics to pressure people to be quiet, discredit them...

George Herbert Walker Bush - POTUS 1989-93
George Walker Bush - POTUS 2001-2009

no "junior"

[nate2512]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Yeah, he is.

please don't announce that you "agree to disagree."

Sorry.

And to whoever said Bush isn't your president, just leave the country right now. You are a citizen of the United States and therefore he is YOUR president. Whether you like it or not, he makes choices that effect YOU as an American citizen so you can shut the hell up. If you pay taxes, he's your damn president because you are paying him as such. If he raises taxes, then you can't say well he's not my president I'm not paying that, it doesn't work that way so just stop with the BS.

[shinerbock]

Originally Posted by kstar

Actually no, I spoke out against Jr. and I was put on the No Fly list and I had to get my lawyer to challenge it. As did several high ranking Democratic party officials, all for absolutely no reason other than the fact that they didn't like him. While he isn't overtly violent, Bush Jr. has and can use subversive tactics to pressure people to be quiet, discredit them...

Your anecdotal evidence, while interesting, really holds no value without more information. However, like I noted, this is a country where you're free to say what you want about our leaders. Consider Bush however you like. Of course, we're free to call you stupid when you make blatantly ridiculous statements, as well.

[shinerbock]

Originally Posted by kstar

No he isn't. I do NOT recognize his administration as legitimate. I almost wish someone would shoot him, but I don't want to make a martyr of him, as we've made of Saddam.

And for today's example of the radical and hateful left...

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by kstar

No he isn't. I do NOT recognize his administration as legitimate. I almost wish someone would shoot him, but I don't want to make a martyr of him, as we've made of Saddam.

This is borderline terrorist.

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by kstar

No he isn't. I do NOT recognize his administration as legitimate. I almost wish someone would shoot him, but I don't want to make a martyr of him, as we've made of Saddam.

I'm not a Bush fan myself, but this is probably the most idiotic thing I've ever heard.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by nate2512

Sorry.

hehe

On a serious note, freedom of speech aside, I question the intellect of any American citizen who thinks that disagreeing with American policies and with a particular administration means that they can truly disassociate without moving their arse to another country.

[shinerbock]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

This is borderline terrorist.

Any sympathy I had for you (Kstar) being on a no-fly list just evaporated with the "shoot him" comment.

[kstar]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

And for today's example of the radical and hateful left...

How is that hateful? Because I want him out of office? Because I don't want a martyr that all of the Religious Right will rally around? Because I'm tired of my country being the laughingstock of the world, because of the stupidity of the general populace? Because I want the US to play nicely within the world neighborhood? Because I'm tired of my friends and relatives dying in an unjust war, waged because of a lie?

Also, because you're supposedly a college educated person, yet, you don't seem to see the big picture?

Also, I'm not really that far left. I'm socially moderate, and I'm very fiscally conservative, I just really do not see his power grab as legitimate and I do not see any worth in his life. He's an addict, he's a liar, and he's a murderer.

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by kstar

No he isn't. I do NOT recognize his administration as legitimate. I almost wish someone would shoot him, but I don't want to make a martyr of him, as we've made of Saddam.

Wow - I don't even know what to say to this. Pretty hateful stuff that you're spouting on this thread.

ETA: It's "hateful" because you implied you wanted someone to shoot him. Hoping that someone is shot is, a good majority of the time, "hateful."

[shinerbock]

Originally Posted by kstar

How is that hateful? Because I want him out of office? Because I don't want a martyr that all of the Religious Right will rally around? Because I'm tired of my country being the laughingstock of the world, because of the stupidity of the general populace? Because I want the US to play nicely within the world neighborhood? Because I'm tired of my friends and relatives dying in an unjust war, waged because of a lie?

Also, because you're supposedly a college educated person, yet, you don't seem to see the big picture?

I don't see the big picture? You mean I don't see the big-socialist-we-should-let-other-countries-dictate-our-actions picture?

Also, the stupidity of the general populace cuts both way sport. Notice that about 60% of the country hates Bush? So they were stupid, but I guess they're over it now huh?

Do tell, how should we "play nicely" with other countries?

[kstar]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

Wow - I don't even know what to say to this. Pretty hateful stuff that you're spouting on this thread.

ETA: It's "hateful" because you implied you wanted someone to shoot him. Hoping that someone is shot is, a good majority of the time, "hateful."

ALMOST. I almost wish someone would shoot him. That isn't hateful, that is recognizing that the country would be better off without him and his policies.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by kstar

How is that hateful?

Oh...I dunno...maybe wishing someone would assassinate the POTUS....

You can dislike a President and wish they were out of the office all you want. But your line of reasoning is EXTREMELY DANGEROUS. Extremism has the potential to breed terrorism. Speaking of wishes, I wish the FBI and CIA could keep an eye on you in case your logic impaired brain leads you to turn into one of those American-born terrorist sympathizers who join the Taliban.

Originally Posted by kstar

Also, because you're supposedly a college educated person, yet, you don't seem to see the big picture?

This is ironic. Seriously.