The State of.... South Florida?? - Page 3

33girl · #31 05-09-2008, 10:37 AM

That NoFla flag is very ADPi looking.

I don't know how Trenton and Jersey City got into this, but if we are getting NJ in the discussion...seriously yinz...if you want Philly, you can have it. You can have its former mayor too.

shinerbock · #32 05-09-2008, 11:02 AM

It is a done deal. The US keeps Naples, The Republic of South Florida gets all of New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and has first right of refusal on Illinois.

33girl · #33 05-09-2008, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock

It is a done deal. The US keeps Naples, The Republic of South Florida gets all of New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and has first right of refusal on Illinois.

NO NO NO!! They get Philly County only. Don't go selling my whole state off to SoFla.

fantASTic · #34 05-09-2008, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverRoses

What about the UP of Michigan? Do they still want to be their own state? (I think they wanted to be called "Superior").

I'm sure they would love to...but alas, our yooper buddies could NEVER support their own state. We give them a lot of money, because we love them, and also because they make delicious pasties.

Tom Earp · #35 05-09-2008, 05:24 PM

This is so funny but yet can be so true!

There are States that are divided by either distance, race, if some wish to call it that?

Missouri is and was devided during the Civil War as many of know it.

So is Fl., Penn., California, so who actually cares?

There was a study at one time about Metro Areas with Metro Govts. combining to be leave it or not keeping Costs down!

Oh, that would not happen would it?

Okay, name Major Cities that could do this?

Cutting down Govrrnment costs!

Can You?

K C Mo./ K C Ks. being one.

PANTHERTEKE · #36 05-09-2008, 06:09 PM

Right. I shouldn't have gotten so offended. But keep in mind that "South Florida" isn't just Miami-Dade county, which might be the biggest county in the area, but its also Broward and Palm Beach counties (according to the census). And the population is about 5.4 million people, of which about 800,000 are Cuban-American.

There are more non-Cuban hispanics in Miami than Cubans. So even though Cuban-Americans might be the most prominent hispanic group in S.Fla, not ALL of S.Fla is "little cuba." And there are places in Miami where you can stop and ask for directions in English.

PANTHERTEKE · #37 05-09-2008, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SECdomination

Also, south Florida has more slums than any other part of the state. Maybe even more than Atlanta.

Atlanta's a part of Florida??

Thetagirl218 · #38 05-09-2008, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03

I always had the dividing line being somewhere between Ocala and Orlando. North Florida, however, needs to be its own state and not connected to Alabama or Georgia, since those other two states will drag us down.

Can we move that line a little further south??? Maybe to Tampa?

Having a been born and raised a Florida girl, I can honestly say there are three different parts of the great State of Florida, South, Mid, and North.

I would say South Florida would stop in the middle of the state south of the Polk County line. Tampa Bay, Orlando, and Daytona are very much their own mid-state culture.
North Florida would be Ocala northward. Having gone to school in Jacksonville, I can honestly say it is more like Southern Georgia than Florida.

I am vaguely remembering from my Florida history class that West Florida used to be its own country/ republic that stretched from Tallahassee to Mobile during the 1700s....

BabyPiNK_FL · #39 05-10-2008, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by starang21

seriously. i owned a house in sweetwater, near the FIU south campus for a couple of years before i sold. all the signs were in spanish, and i've been turned away from barber shops because i couldn't speak the language.

Okay-Sweetwater and Dolphin Mall , Hialeah, etc. area are bad. Yes, there are a lot of Spanish people who don't speak English, but that is slowly dying out. I used to go into stores and get ignored because I'm obviously black and therefore assumed not to speak Spanish, but that is happening less and less and LESS. BTW-How did you come to buy a house in that area? Didn't you notice that prior? LOL!

I just want people to understand that I was born here, and I live here, I have a nice life here, and just like you love wherever it is you come from despite all it's faults, I love South Florida. It is not at all what you make it out to be. Visiting, you can only see a certain side and it doesn't accurately display how we live collectively. I would never imply that somewhere should go join another country because of it's racial/ethnic makeup. I find it highly offensive. We are and have been and will continue to be a part of the U.S.

The problem was NOT initiated as a racial one but as a financial/political one. But every SINGLE time this topic has been discussed ANYWHERE online it immediately turns into a hispanic/socio-economic bash fest. I find that highly insulting for various reasons. There is nothing wrong with being different, every region is different for its reasons. I would never insult the states that have a heavy Norweigan culture or Italian culture, or Asian culture, or Mexican culture, or German culture (and all of these exist all over the U.S.) because that is apart of the state and who they are and who lives there. Nor would I suggest that they should split from the U.S. because "I don't like how they live/their local culture" (which is basically what a lot of you are saying in a nutshell). It just is what it is.

And maybe we wouldn't have so many "slums" that you swear we do if we could get back our damn tax money from the state! Things might actually improve.

PANTHERTEKE · #40 05-10-2008, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BabyPiNK_FL

Okay-Sweetwater and Dolphin Mall , Hialeah, etc. area are bad. Yes, there are a lot of Spanish people who don't speak English, but that is slowly dying out. I used to go into stores and get ignored because I'm obviously black and therefore assumed not to speak Spanish, but that is happening less and less and LESS. BTW-How did you come to buy a house in that area? Didn't you notice that prior? LOL!

I just want people to understand that I was born here, and I live here, I have a nice life here, and just like you love wherever it is you come from despite all it's faults, I love South Florida. It is not at all what you make it out to be. Visiting, you can only see a certain side and it doesn't accurately display how we live collectively. I would never imply that somewhere should go join another country because of it's racial/ethnic makeup. I find it highly offensive. We are and have been and will continue to be a part of the U.S.

The problem was NOT initiated as a racial one but as a financial/political one. But every SINGLE time this topic has been discussed ANYWHERE online it immediately turns into a hispanic/socio-economic bash fest. I find that highly insulting for various reasons. There is nothing wrong with being different, every region is different for its reasons. I would never insult the states that have a heavy Norweigan culture or Italian culture, or Asian culture, or Mexican culture, or German culture (and all of these exist all over the U.S.) because that is apart of the state and who they are and who lives there. Nor would I suggest that they should split from the U.S. because "I don't like how they live/their local culture" (which is basically what a lot of you are saying in a nutshell). It just is what it is.

And maybe we wouldn't have so many "slums" that you swear we do if we could get back our damn tax money from the state! Things might actually improve.

Thank you

Finally a post worth reading in this thread that actually had truth to it.

BabyPiNK_FL · #41 05-10-2008, 02:26 PM

I am more than welcome to hear what the other side has to say. Provided that it is regarding the actual issue and not just an excuse to be an undercover racist, bash another culture, or demean someone due their socio-economic status.

And if you live in S. Florida (like I do) it's been on the LOCAL news. So I didn't need to read that (one) article (which is not the end all be all of the issue because other articles actually do exist about it) to know what people have been doing in towns 10-30 miles from me. I have more insight on the matter than what the article merely states and as others have said before me, it is not a serious request, it is merely one to draw attention to the fact that our taxes are being used to fund things in other parts of the states and we are not receiving that money back DESPITE the fact that we have severe home foreclosure, high property taxes, higher poverty rates, etc. The state of Florida has been cutting the budgets on things like schools and services for the elderly, disabled, and other public services. They are upset because we give so much and it's being taken and now the cuts are making it even worse.

Munchkin03 · #42 05-10-2008, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock

Give us Destin, Rosemary, Seagrove, Pensacola, and Jacksonville. We'll see if we can get a three way deal going where we get you Trenton, Jersey City and Newark in this trade. You guys can have everything else.

Let 'em have Lawn Guyland, too. We should keep Tally and G-ville as well.

I'm already ahead on this trend...whenever someone asks me where I'm from, I automatically say "North Florida, three hours east of New Orleans, right on the Gulf." That way, I don't hear any of that "my great aunt Yetta retired to Ft. Lauderdale..." nonsense.

AGDee · #43 05-10-2008, 04:46 PM

I think Orlando needs to stay with Ocala. My dad is in Ocala and we like the "in state" discount he gets at Disney...

PANTHERTEKE · #44 05-10-2008, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SECdomination

Why is south Florida more liberal? Because of all the hispanics and yankee implants.

Although I agree that S.Fla has a higher population of democrats than anywhere else in Florida, its not completely liberal. Actually, it's pretty split up in Dade.

Not to mention that Cuban-Americans, that seem to be the topic of discussion whenever this is brought up, are far more Republican than their hispanic counterparts. (e.g. Marco Rubio the Speaker of the Florida House of Representatives, Mel Martinez in the Senate, Carlos Gutierrez the U.S. Secretary of Commerce, Ileana Ros-Lehtinen in House of Representatives, etc)

Last presidential election Dade county was 46.6% Republican and 52.9% Democrat. Not all that liberal.

Broward County is more liberal than Dade by a long shot. 64% Dem vs 34% Rep last election. And, it's important to add, that hispanics only make up 22% of Broward's population.

smiley21 · #45 05-11-2008, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by AGDee

I think Orlando needs to stay with Ocala. My dad is in Ocala and we like the "in state" discount he gets at Disney...

My dad is in Ocala too, so I would like to keep that town with me. I also don't want to leave the state to get to Orlando, so make the state line below them.