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12-21-2008, 01:00 AM
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Nothing new under the sun..
This is not new. Not many organizations within the BLGO system can say that their concepts are original. Case in point. Consider Alpha Phi Fraternity. No...not Alpha Phi Alpha....Alpha Phi Fraternity. Alpha Phi Fraternity is the first women’s organization to use Greek letters as an emblem. They were founded in 1872. They are not called a sorority because they were founded before the term sorority was used. Their colors are silver and bordeaux but they often use pink and green in their designs. Even their website is designed in pink and green.
You can view it here.
http://www.alphaphi.org/about_us/symbolsofalphaphi.html
Their official symbol is the Ivy Leaf. This may be a coincidence but being that Alpha Phi Alpha was founded an hour away from where Alpha Phi was founded, it is plausible that some symbols may have been borrowed in the founding of Alpha Kappa Alpha. Being that the formation of the first BLGOs was, in itself, an act of defiance to the "all white" fraternities and sororities, it's not unlikely that some the symbols were used to make a political statement. This is just my conclusion though. There is nothing to support that this why some symbols are similar.
Please, members of AKA and Alpha, DO NOT get upset with me about posting this information. You may have already known this though, I am not familiar with what your organization teaches you about your founding and the origin of your symbols. I just wanted to point out to those who don't know much about fraternity and sorority history that nothing is new under the sun when it comes to some of the symbolism used in BLGOs.
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12-21-2008, 01:10 AM
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ha ha
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Originally Posted by deepimpact2
There's a youth group called Alpha Kappa Kappa that is remarkably similar to my sorority. I know there's a chapter in Birmingham. They are high school students. I don't like it. I guess perhaps we should be flattered, but I find it rather disrespectful.
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I just found a site about Alpha Kappa Kappa Medical Fraternity. They'll be delighted to know that some high schoolers are using their name.
Looking for Lambda Tau...can't find anything on them.
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12-21-2008, 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by herexcellency
This is not new. Not many organizations within the BLGO system can say that their concepts are original. Case in point. Consider Alpha Phi Fraternity. No...not Alpha Phi Alpha....Alpha Phi Fraternity. Alpha Phi Fraternity is the first women’s organization to use Greek letters as an emblem. They were founded in 1872. They are not called a sorority because they were founded before the term sorority was used. Their colors are silver and bordeaux but they often use pink and green in their designs. Even their website is designed in pink and green.
You can view it here.
http://www.alphaphi.org/about_us/symbolsofalphaphi.html
Their official symbol is the Ivy Leaf. This may be a coincidence but being that Alpha Phi Alpha was founded an hour away from where Alpha Phi was founded, it is plausible that some symbols may have been borrowed in the founding of Alpha Kappa Alpha. Being that the formation of the first BLGOs was, in itself, an act of defiance to the "all white" fraternities and sororities, it's not unlikely that some the symbols were used to make a political statement. This is just my conclusion though. There is nothing to support that this why some symbols are similar.
Please, members of AKA and Alpha, DO NOT get upset with me about posting this information. You may have already known this though, I am not familiar with what your organization teaches you about your founding and the origin of your symbols. I just wanted to point out to those who don't know much about fraternity and sorority history that nothing is new under the sun when it comes to some of the symbolism used in BLGOs.
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12-21-2008, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by herexcellency
Their official symbol is the Ivy Leaf. This may be a coincidence but being that Alpha Phi Alpha was founded an hour away from where Alpha Phi was founded, it is plausible that some symbols may have been borrowed in the founding of Alpha Kappa Alpha.
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No, it's not plausible that a group of black men an hour away from a group of white women would borrow their symbols in 1906 and wait two years to give them to a group of black women at Howard.
Especially since Alpha Phi Alpha did not HELP with the founding of AKA in that way.
Nor was it Alpha Chapter Alphas who provided the moral support to Ethel Hedgeman Lyle.
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12-21-2008, 11:34 AM
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Ok......
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Originally Posted by herexcellency
This is not new. Not many organizations within the BLGO system can say that their concepts are original. Case in point. Consider Alpha Phi Fraternity. No...not Alpha Phi Alpha....Alpha Phi Fraternity. Alpha Phi Fraternity is the first women’s organization to use Greek letters as an emblem. They were founded in 1872. They are not called a sorority because they were founded before the term sorority was used. Their colors are silver and bordeaux but they often use pink and green in their designs. Even their website is designed in pink and green.
You can view it here.
http://www.alphaphi.org/about_us/symbolsofalphaphi.html
Their official symbol is the Ivy Leaf. This may be a coincidence but being that Alpha Phi Alpha was founded an hour away from where Alpha Phi was founded, it is plausible that some symbols may have been borrowed in the founding of Alpha Kappa Alpha. Being that the formation of the first BLGOs was, in itself, an act of defiance to the "all white" fraternities and sororities, it's not unlikely that some the symbols were used to make a political statement. This is just my conclusion though. There is nothing to support that this why some symbols are similar.
Please, members of AKA and Alpha, DO NOT get upset with me about posting this information. You may have already known this though, I am not familiar with what your organization teaches you about your founding and the origin of your symbols. I just wanted to point out to those who don't know much about fraternity and sorority history that nothing is new under the sun when it comes to some of the symbolism used in BLGOs.
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Nor do I know if your organization taught you not to presume too much.
I am more upset that you are ill informed. Handle that.
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No, it's not plausible that a group of black men an hour away from a group of white women would borrow their symbols in 1906 and wait two years to give them to a group of black women at Howard.
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12-21-2008, 01:06 PM
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I just found a site about Alpha Kappa Kappa Medical Fraternity. They'll be delighted to know that some high schoolers are using their name.
Looking for Lambda Tau...can't find anything on them.
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Mmmmmkay. Those high schoolers my be using their name, but the intent was to copy AKA.
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12-21-2008, 01:28 PM
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I would venture that there are more similarities between Alpha Phi, Gamma Phi Beta, and Alpha Gamma Delta than there are between Alpha Phi and Alpha Kappa Alpha.
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12-21-2008, 02:53 PM
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I would venture that there are more similarities between Alpha Phi, Gamma Phi Beta, and Alpha Gamma Delta than there are between Alpha Phi and Alpha Kappa Alpha.
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12-21-2008, 05:35 PM
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Their colors are silver and bordeaux but they often use pink and green in their designs.
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Yeah...no. Just because our National website is in a pink & green design, does not mean we "often use" pink & green. K, thanxs.
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I would venture that there are more similarities between Alpha Phi, Gamma Phi Beta, and Alpha Gamma Delta than there are between Alpha Phi and Alpha Kappa Alpha.
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Yepppers. I don't think the men of Alpha Phi Alpha or the ladies of AKA needed any help from us to create their orgs.
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12-22-2008, 12:00 PM
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Breaking news: You are psychotic. Oh, wait. ALL of GC already knows that...
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12-22-2008, 12:02 PM
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Breaking news, you have a social disorder. Isn\'t that what you told all of GC?
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Yes, I am one of millions that have panic attacks and don't like crowds. Good for you for pointing that out. I am sure you feel better now.
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12-22-2008, 12:07 PM
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^^^Self admitted psycho.
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Well, there you have it. LOL.
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12-22-2008, 12:40 PM
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...you\'re a...psycho
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12-22-2008, 12:47 PM
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What the hell is with the slashes?
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12-22-2008, 12:48 PM
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What the hell is with the slashes?
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I thought it was just me since no one else had mentioned it!
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