"Incorporated"

[neosoul]

Originally Posted by SouthernFratter

It seems kind of silly to me. I guess probably most of our GLOs are technically corporations, but it seems much more natural for us to be Kappa Sig or Kappa Sigma than it would be to call ourselves Kappa Sigma Fraternity, Inc. I guess it's just the combination of greek letters and an incorporated notation that looks strange.

Edit: I guess what I'm saying is that I don't understand the point of saying that it's "Inc." I don't even use the word "fraternity" when saying the name of my house, because it's just sort of assumed. I would have thought "Inc." would be the same way.

"your" GLOs and BGLOs do not operate on the same wavelength... lets leave it at that

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by SouthernFratter

Edit: And I don't buy that "because it was hard to be incorporated" reason.

Well, then it's not about you not understanding. It's about you disagreeing.

This thread says it all and you just think it's silly. We're fine with that.

[neosoul]

"trace"?

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by SouthernFratter

I guess probably most of our GLOs are technically corporations, but it seems much more natural for us to be Kappa Sig or Kappa Sigma than it would be to call ourselves Kappa Sigma Fraternity, Inc.

Actually, some GLOs are corporations and some are not. If I'm not mistaken, Kappa Sigma Fraternity is an unincorporated association. Kappa Sigma Fraternity, Inc. (aka Kappa Sigma Memorial Foundation), was a corporation formed by Kappa Sigma Fraternity to hold title to Memorial Headquarters in Charlottesville. I wouldn't be surprised if there are other GLOs that are set up similarly -- as associations that have in turn formed corporations to hold certain property.

You can find some interesting KS history in the opinion in Kappa Sigma Fraternity, Inc., v. Kappa Sigma Fraternity.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by SouthernFratter

Um, claim to be descendents of some group that in all likelihood they had nothing to do with.

No.

[DSTRen13]

Originally Posted by SouthernFratter

Um, claim to be descendents of some group that in all likelihood they had nothing to do with.

Same as with the IFC fraternities that can all "trace" their history to the Knights Templar. Basically just associate themselves with something to have a history other than a group of guys (or girls) sitting in a room at some college and deciding that they could do better than the other GLOs.

Because that isn't silly?

[neosoul]

Originally Posted by SouthernFratter

Um, claim to be descendents of some group that in all likelihood they had nothing to do with.

no

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

You didn't refute what rhoyaltempest said.

While some of you know why "Incorporated" is said, I say "some" because not even all NPHCers know why it is said, Theta Nu Xi and other organizations are young and didn't exist at a time where being incorporated was a huge feat for certain types of organizations.

So even if you all know the significance behind "Innnnnncorporated," the reason you are actually saying it is because of the BGLO tradition of saying it. If not for that, it would be another unspoken fact about your organization as it usually is with NPC and IFC organizations.

I wasn't trying to refute! I was agreeing.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

I wasn't trying to refute! I was agreeing.

Okay. I re-read your post and see what you were trying to say.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Okay. It read like you were trying to say "we know the NPHC influence on stuff but we don't do it because NPHC does it and it's cool, we do it because we respect our history."

To clarify, I was saying that younger orgs adopt NPHC (and non-NPHC traditions), but make them their own so that they are relevant. I took issue with the comment that we think it's "cool" and that's why we do it when, in fact, we do it because we recognize and appreciate the history and wish to emulate the positives while connecting to the historical stream of Greek Life. We contextualize the traditions for our own organizations to carry them out in unique ways as well as building our own traditions.

As has been noted elsewhere, many NPHC (and non-NPHC) traditions were borrowed from predecessors, but the traditions were adapted to the organizations that took them on. Within Theta Nu Xi, we have women who were brought up in other Greek traditions. They bring that background to the table when they join, which is why you'll see an amalgamation of traditions that have been adopted from those who went before.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Okay. I re-read your post and see what you were trying to say.

Read this too late. By the way, what's up with the smiles? You're freaking me out. LOL!

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

Read this too late. By the way, what's up with the smiles? You're freaking me out. LOL!

[DSTCHAOS]

Oh my bad...I edited my post because I now saw what you meant. That post wasn't your imagination.

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

I wouldn't be surprised if there are other GLOs that are set up similarly -- as associations that have in turn formed corporations to hold certain property.

If that's true, those orgs should read that ruling you posted as a cautionary tale. KS Fraternity has filed a petition to dissolve the KS Foundation because of the tussling over property ownership, etc.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by nittanyalum

If that's true, those orgs should read that ruling you posted as a cautionary tale. KS Fraternity has filed a petition to dissolve the KS Foundation because of the tussling over property ownership, etc.

And the Fraternity lost in court. (Although, the loss wasn't necessarily due to the fraternity's lack of corporate status.)