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12-22-2007, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by SECdomination
Use some logic. Do you really think that in 1776, the founding fathers were giving thought to other religions half a world away?
No, they wanted a choice to follow their Catholic or Protestant doctrines. By the way, both of those are Christian.
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Why yes Protestantism and Catholicism are both Christian... but Deism wasn't and isn't since it rejects the basic principles of Christianity.
Perhaps you should use some logic and/or research and apply it to the question of what Deism is and how it differs from Christianity, then apply what you discover to the principles of faith as outlined by the Founding Fathers of America.
PS> Incidentally the freedom to follow the Catholic faith wasn't really one of the founding principles given the virulent anti-Catholicism then (and some would argue now still) as evidenced by the outrage at the Quebec Act which guaranteed the freedom of the Catholic faith in Quebec and which was the final of the "Intolerable Acts".
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12-22-2007, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by SECdomination
Silly you...
Use some logic. Do you really think that in 1776, the founding fathers were giving thought to other religions half a world away?
No, they wanted a choice to follow their Catholic or Protestant doctrines. By the way, both of those are Christian.
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True...but Huegenots HATED Catholics for the persecution they received at their hands.
Unitarians pretty much include anyone believing in a higher power (unity) but note the last phrase below...so that makes at least 3 not necessarily "christian".
"Unitarian Universalism (UUism) is a theologically liberal religious movement characterized by its support of a "free and responsible search for truth and meaning." This principle permits Unitarian Universalists a wide range of beliefs and practices. Unitarian Universalist congregations and fellowships tend to retain some Christian traditions such as Sunday worship that includes a sermon and singing of hymns, but do not necessarily identify themselves as Christians." The whole read is actually pretty interesting. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unitarian_Universalism
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12-22-2007, 07:52 PM
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12-23-2007, 01:21 AM
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If "Christmas" is so offensive for whoever out there, I fully expect them to be at work on December 25th.
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12-23-2007, 03:06 AM
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If "Christmas" is so offensive for whoever out there, I fully expect them to be at work on December 25th.
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Yes because everyone controls whether or not their workplace is open based on their own personal beliefs.
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12-23-2007, 04:02 AM
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If "Christmas" is so offensive for whoever out there, I fully expect them to be at work on December 25th.
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I will be. Just as I expect off for Yom Kippur, Rosh Hashanah, Purim, et cetera, the Christians can expect Christmas, Easter, Epiphany... The Muslims for Eid Al-Fitr, Eid Al-Adha...
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12-23-2007, 05:22 AM
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If "Christmas" is so offensive for whoever out there, I fully expect them to be at work on December 25th.
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If they find it "offensive" then they can go soak their heads.
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12-23-2007, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by SECdomination
Silly you...
Use some logic. Do you really think that in 1776, the founding fathers were giving thought to other religions half a world away?
No, they wanted a choice to follow their Catholic or Protestant doctrines. By the way, both of those are Christian.
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Thomas Jefferson. John Adams. John Quincy Adams. Abigail Adams. Benjamin Franklin. Paul Revere. Josiah Quincy. Thomas Paine. All Unitarians, which, by the way, is not an inherently Christian faith.
If you're going to be condescending, at least be accurate.
For the record, I am both Christian and Unitarian. But that is not always the case.
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12-23-2007, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ThetaDancer
Thomas Jefferson. John Adams. John Quincy Adams. Abigail Adams. Benjamin Franklin. Paul Revere. Josiah Quincy. Thomas Paine. All Unitarians, which, by the way, is not an inherently Christian faith.
If you're going to be condescending, at least be accurate.
For the record, I am both Christian and Unitarian. But that is not always the case.
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Interesting. I had always thought that Unitarians were Christian. I don't know, all the denominations practice differently but in my opinion if you follow the teachings of Christ you're a Christian.
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12-23-2007, 04:22 PM
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Yes because everyone controls whether or not their workplace is open based on their own personal beliefs.
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I see that you've met them already.
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12-24-2007, 01:42 AM
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I see that you've met them already.
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Thanks for the non-response. It was useful.
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12-24-2007, 04:51 AM
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Interesting. I had always thought that Unitarians were Christian. I don't know, all the denominations practice differently but in my opinion if you follow the teachings of Christ you're a Christian.
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Unitarians can be Christians, but it's not necessary.
I thought the above were deists.
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12-24-2007, 04:58 AM
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Unitarians can be Christians, but it's not necessary.
I thought the above were deists.
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18th century Deism is the closest thing to modern Unitarianism.
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12-25-2007, 04:29 PM
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Since we have both Canadians and Americans weighing in on this topic, something to keep in mind:
"If people tell you they want to stick to the hard and fast rule of separation of church and state, tell them to consult Canada’s laws. That’s an American law. In Canada our laws are governed by religious accommodation."
http://www.stephenhammond.ca/newslet...ails.php?id=58 (He's a great lawyer and a phenomenal public speaker also)
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12-25-2007, 06:52 PM
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happy...wait i mean MERRY CHRISTMAS yall
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