A SPY AMONG US!! BROTHERS BEWARE....

[BROTHERSKEEPER]

I spoke the the executive/frat last night in regards to the interview. I was advised that I was obviously very competitive for the position. However, his hands were tied by his boss who basically instructed him to hire the individual who was hired based on ties with the indiviual's father in the department. I've moved on to plan B, but I would have appreciated this information prior to the interview. I would not have wasted my time and their time. The truth hurts.

This ship has sailed. I'm on to my next career move.

[Professor]

Frat,

Welcome to the real world. It has taken me several years to develop "thick skin." People that you consider your friend will turn on you to make themselves look good. I left a position where I worked for more than twelve years only to learn the director is now running me down at every turn. Prior to my leaving, we ate lunch, hung out on the weekends, visited each others home, etc. We had each others back so I thought. To this day I have no understanding why she has started a personal attack. I have taken pictures down in my current office of my old staff, put away awards received as a result of the job and have nothing to do with my old office. To that end, accept that the position you wanted may not have been what God wanted you to have. Keep moving forward and let no man destroy your self fulfillment.
"What God has for you . . . It is for you."

Originally Posted by BROTHERSKEEPER

I spoke the the executive/frat last night in regards to the interview. I was advised that I was obviously very competitive for the position. However, his hands were tied by his boss who basically instructed him to hire the individual who was hired based on ties with the indiviual's father in the department. I've moved on to plan B, but I would have appreciated this information prior to the interview. I would not have wasted my time and their time. The truth hurts.

This ship has sailed. I'm on to my next career move.

[mccoyred]

Originally Posted by BROTHERSKEEPER

I put this out there obviously to get some outside opinions. I work for a company where NEPOTISM seems to be the rule and not the exception. I feel I was qualified for the job and was misled by this executive. We had conversations in regards to him not wanting to be known as a person who only hires black people or his fraternity brothers. For the record, he has not hire a black person into his department ever. The white male was selected strictly through NEPOTISM and not on qualifications. I still find myself working three times as hard as my white counterparts just to survive.

I feel if you can reach back, reach back and help another brother or sister. I speak it and live it.

Maybe the guy was hired over any protests of your frat? People do what their boss tells them sometimes, regardless of whether they agree with it or how it looks.

Frankly, your depening on the brother to have your back when the decision is not his alone is a little naive.

[mccoyred]

Originally Posted by BROTHERSKEEPER

I spoke the the executive/frat last night in regards to the interview. I was advised that I was obviously very competitive for the position. However, his hands were tied by his boss who basically instructed him to hire the individual who was hired based on ties with the indiviual's father in the department. I've moved on to plan B, but I would have appreciated this information prior to the interview. I would not have wasted my time and their time. The truth hurts.

This ship has sailed. I'm on to my next career move.

I should have read to the end of the thread before posting!

Please know that this happens much more often than you can imagine. ALWAYS have a Plan B from the beginning.

BTW, ethically and probably legally speaking, he could NOT have given that info to you prior to the interview.

[DSTCHAOS]

LOL...you all are overlooking the most important component of this thread.

Originally Posted by BROTHERSKEEPER

This has caused me to question my allegiance to Alpha Phi Alpha.

All the other stuff is just a run of the mill dose of reality. THIS part is the realness.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

LOL...you all are overlooking the most important component of this thread.

I find this one rather key to the thread as well:

Originally Posted by The Original Ape

I hope you don't blame the entire fraternity for this dude's failure to keep his obligation.

I don't know about Alpha Phi Alpha, but nowhere in my Ritual was the requirement to hire a sister if in the postion to do so. If I was choosing between two candiates, one being a sister, and the other better qualified, I'm going with the better qualified.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

I find this one rather key to the thread as well:

I don't know about Alpha Phi Alpha, but nowhere in my Ritual was the requirement to hire a sister if in the postion to do so. If I was choosing between two candiates, one being a sister, and the other better qualified, I'm going with the better qualified.

That is true, however networks propel people ahead 95% of the time. The conclusion is that the other guy was hired because of family ties. That may be true and it may just be what BrothersKeeper was told because he wouldn't shut up about it. Either case, the original post was entertainingly disturbing.

[YardStick]

Originally Posted by BROTHERSKEEPER

Greetings Brothers,

I recently interviewed for a position within the company I have worked for over ten years now. The position was in another department headed by an executive who also happened to be an ALPHA. We touched basis on both of us being Alphas. I also followed the necessary steps outlined by this executive four months earlier leading up to this interview. To make a long story short, I was shocked to find out I was not selected for the position after the interview. I was qualified for the position and had an outstanding interview based on the feedback following the interview. In addition, I was not the only Alpha to interview for the position. The part that really hurt, the BROTHER hired a white male. This has caused me to question my allegiance to Alpha Phi Alpha. I thought the purpose was to reach back and help one another. If not another Alpha Man, another black male if better qualified for the job.

What up with the spy among us?? Has anyone experienced this same type of situation. I need help to get through this situation. I want to return in my pin and letters.

Hello,

I wanted to ignore this post BUT something about THIS post is annoying my spirit and I must address it.

1) Brotherskeeper, I know it is hard to verify over the 'net, Nonetheless, If YOU ARE a BRO. I would be the 1st here to "GRIP" you. BUT If YOU AINT I would be the 1st to CHIN CHECK you! Albiet, you might want to put your info on the new members thread.

2) As a brother previously stated, It not what Alpha can do for you it is about what you can do for Alpha. I am sure the brother with whom you interviewed tried his best to get you in but the final decision may have not lied with him.

3) The fact that you would return your pin and letters based on this. QUESTIONABLE

[DSTCHAOS]

[christiangirl]

Like most threads on GC, I seem to have stumbled onto this one by accident, but it's come as a pleasantly entertaining surprise, so I figure I'll give it a whirl.

Originally Posted by BROTHERSKEEPER

I spoke the the executive/frat last night in regards to the interview. I was advised that I was obviously very competitive for the position. However, his hands were tied by his boss who basically instructed him to hire the individual who was hired based on ties with the indiviual's father in the department. I've moved on to plan B, but I would have appreciated this information prior to the interview. I would not have wasted my time and their time. The truth hurts.

This ship has sailed. I'm on to my next career move.

I can understand the unwelcome feelings toward that hindsight; I'd be angry, too. I'm glad you know the truth and that you are moving on. I pray that you find what is better suited for you, as this obviously was not the right place--not with such goings-on that were displeasing to you. I think it may have been a blessing in disguise because you were not feeling how things were run from the jump. Keep searching and you'll find something wonderful. However, I don't think it's the runnings of corporations that need your attention. If the disappointment of not getting a job made you take your limited knowledge of another man's character, compare it with his affiliation and jump to that many conclusions, you might have something in yourself to re-evaluate. What's more, if this situation was enough to make you want to walk away from what you once held so dear and, presumably, worked so hard for, then that is a situation you may want to re-evaluate as well. That one sentence about returning you "pin and letters" said a lot and, if you don't mind my saying so, if you're not going to listen to the advice other Greeks are posting(you might, but if you don't), at least listen to what your actions are saying and see if the thoughts and feelings you projected were ones that you possess and, if so, why on earth even consider such a permanent decision over such a short-lived situation. Outside of that, I'm not qualified to advise you further since I'm not Greek, so I'll end the psycho-babble here. Best wishes!

[REE1993]

First, I find it very hard to believe that any hiring manager would say such a thing.

Second, you have a warped sense of brotherhood. Simply being a member of a GLO should not supercede the experience, potential, and skills of other applicants. Is this your first job?

Originally Posted by BROTHERSKEEPER

I spoke the the executive/frat last night in regards to the interview. I was advised that I was obviously very competitive for the position. However, his hands were tied by his boss who basically instructed him to hire the individual who was hired based on ties with the indiviual's father in the department.

This ship has sailed. I'm on to my next career move.

[yangstar]

Originally Posted by BROTHERSKEEPER

I've moved on to plan B, but I would have appreciated this information prior to the interview. I would not have wasted my time and their time. The truth hurts.

This ship has sailed. I'm on to my next career move.

Yes the truth hurts, yet you act as if you haven't learned anything at all. There's a real world out there and nothing should be granted for, especially assuming that because you're a part of a GLO that you're going to be handed a job. I wish you luck on your next job interview!

[pinkies up]

I'm still confused as to why someone would put their whole career on the back of a member of their organization, and on top of that, place their organization in the "maybe" column if given the job???? I have been hired by Sorors and other sistergreeks and not hired by them; however, AKA has nothing to do with me being a teacher. My sorority is seperate from my job and quite frankly, Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. owes me nothing. It's my responsibility to do what I vowed to do in my ritual, not get mad at a Soror and my sorority because she didn't hire me. Better luck next time.

[yangstar]

Originally Posted by pinkies up

I'm still confused as to why someone would put their whole career on the back of a member of their organization, and on top of that, place their organization in the "maybe" column if given the job???? I have been hired by Sorors and other sistergreeks and not hired by them; however, AKA has nothing to do with me being a teacher. My sorority is seperate from my job and quite frankly, Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. owes me nothing. It's my responsibility to do what I vowed to do in my ritual, not get mad at a Soror and my sorority because she didn't hire me. Better luck next time.

Amen. We can't expect to all of sudden be placed into the best positions, but it is our responsibility in LIFE to make good decisions and to try to maximize on good opportunities.

[christiangirl]

Originally Posted by pinkies up

It's my responsibility to do what I vowed to do in my ritual, not get mad at a Soror and my sorority because she didn't hire me.

It's not exactly the same, but this whole thing reminds me that one episode of Punk'd when Brandy and Ray J get caught with "stolen diamonds" in their car and Brandy tells the black policeman "Come on, brotha, you've seen us on TV; you know we're good kids. You should have our backs more than this!"