Justice in America - Page 3

PiKA2001 · #31 01-31-2007, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by James

One more reason not to live in the South.

It doesnt matter where you live, the HS statutory rape case I mentioned happened in Detroit.

shinerbock · #32 01-31-2007, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by starang21

it's completely understandable if he was 25 or something like that. he was probably a junior, and she was a freshman.

And while it may be a dumb kid thing, or even accepted now (I don't think 14-15 year old girls having sex should be readily accepted), guys just can't put themselves in those situations. I always thought he was paranoid, but my father has always been big on me being careful around girls of questionable character. Similar thing with police or whoever, you simply can't give them any reason to get you for something.

laylo · #33 01-31-2007, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock

And while it may be a dumb kid thing, or even accepted now (I don't think 14-15 year old girls having sex should be readily accepted), guys just can't put themselves in those situations. I always thought he was paranoid, but my father has always been big on me being careful around girls of questionable character. Similar thing with police or whoever, you simply can't give them any reason to get you for something.

The first thing I thought when I read the story was that if I ever have a son I will definitely drill this into his head.

DSTCHAOS · #34 01-31-2007, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by PM_Mama00

I just see it as the girl was a slut. She got passed around like nothing while on video tape. She's a smart one too.

If that's smart to you then I don't know what isn't.

So is how you see it supposed to negate something?

macallan25 · #35 01-31-2007, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by starang21

you realize the kid was 17 when this happened? how many of us have messed with girls TWO years our junior when we were in high school? lets not pretend this thing isn't common.

Most people that I hung around had enough class to realize that screwing around with a skank whore of a girl that young when you are in high school is pretty damn inappropriate.

DSTCHAOS · #36 01-31-2007, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by PiKA2001

Please, i'm talking about your rants in general. It's getting old.

Get over starang21 and get over it, in general.

James · #37 01-31-2007, 01:18 AM

Is there much of a difference, except in persspective, between a 17 year old having sex with a 15 year old or a 25 year old doing it? Either a girl can consent or not.

What is interesting is that consent is not something a 15 year old girl an give . . she isn't adult enough . . but she can committ murder and be considered an adult.

And there is an enormous double standard if the genders had been reversed. Which doesn't make any sense at all when looked at in a way that examines the logical underpinnings of such laws.

Trying to legislate social situations like this is actually kind of stupid.

DSTCHAOS · #38 01-31-2007, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by starang21

yea, and? how often is sex going on between young people at the high school level?

The point that these people in this thread are making is that this happens quite often, and also to white males who have sex with white females, so it isn't a race issue.

Their point is valid however, like was already stated, race compounds many issues and this tends to be one of them. That's evidenced by the comments I've read on other boards and in-person regarding this topic. Race may not (read: may not) have been a factor in the fact that he was arrested and so forth, seeing as though things like this happen all the time, but it would be interesting to see if it may (read: may) have been an extralegal and undocumented factor in the sentencing. That can't really be proven but I'd be interested to see the sentencing criteria either way.

macallan25 · #39 01-31-2007, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by starang21

who's blaming someone on not succeeding? apparently, reading comprehension is not one of your strong points.

Well, its seems pretty clear by you colorful thread title and the posted article that you think this dumbass moron was dealt a serious injustice and prevented from going to college because of the fact that he is black.

....or maybe you think gangbanging a 15 year old on video is acceptable behavior.

DSTCHAOS · #40 01-31-2007, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by James

Trying to legislate social situations like this is actually kind of stupid.

I think that these types of situations are extreme and most people aren't tried for having sex with someone 2 years younger. For the most part, statutory rape cases are dealing with a more cut-and-dry age differential.

James · #41 01-31-2007, 01:28 AM

Really?

In some cases that age difference could be a junior dating a sophomore. That was pretty common if I remember correctly.

I wonder how many people we all know that could have been found to be sex offenders if they were prosecuted to the letter of the law . . in some states anyway. How many of our parents?

Remember that statutory is definined differently from state to state.

Keep in mind that if he had intercourse with her it would have been a misdemeanor, it was the fact that she blew him (oral sex for you prudish people) that made him it a felony and gave him ten years.

Damn! Talk about poison blow jobs, every time she sucks a cock she ruins a life worse than a freaking venereal disease. Sh's like a plague vector! I wonder if they nickname her like Typhoid Mary . . what could we call her that would be an equivalent nickname? Might be another thread topic.

I wonder how many others that were not videotaped that she blew in her career as a ruiner of lives and stealer of souls?

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Originally Posted by macallan25

Most people that I hung around had enough class to realize that screwing around with a girl that young when you are a senior in high school is pretty damn inappropriate.

(I also have a sister that is two years younger than me......so getting with one of her friends was totally out of the question when I was 17 and 18)

macallan25 · #42 01-31-2007, 01:30 AM

Yes, really.

PiKA2001 · #43 01-31-2007, 01:40 AM

This is the case I was talking about in the earlier post. It's pretty similar to whats going on with this kid here.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/1998/...ain23051.shtml

James · #44 01-31-2007, 01:42 AM

Yah, you and pika2001 are right about that. I was being glib.

And I was referring more to antiquated sex laws, like the oral sex thing than racism per se.

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I'm pretty sure there are several black men in NYC who wouldn't agree that the north is devoid of problems like this...

DSTCHAOS · #45 01-31-2007, 01:53 AM

It's the sentencing differential that's the real point people around the country are making, not whether or not both whites and blacks are arrested and sentenced for statutory rape. Of course, many of us know firsthand that race can also factor into whether or not someone is accused and reported for forcible rape and statutory rape--but that's not the topic.

The issue with Wilson (what starang21 posted) may just be GA's archaic statutory rape law--which was later altered to not include oral sex but that doesn't help Wilson because it isn't retroactive. Are they telling us there was no other alternative than to declare him a child molestor?

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Facing up to 15 years in prison, Dan decides to take a plea bargain. He agrees to plead guilty to conspiracy to contribute to the delinquency of a minor, and is sentenced to four and a half months in prison, two years probation and 200 hours of community service. His three friends pled guilty to a lesser charge: But two of them admitted in their plea to getting no "expressions of consent" from the girls.

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He's 20 now. Just two years into a 10-year sentence without possibility of parole, he peers through the thick glass and bars, trying to catch a glimpse of freedom. Outside, guard towers and rolls of coiled barbed wire remind him of who he is...Wilson refused to admit to being a child molester. If he pled to or was convicted of any charge that put him on the sex offender registry, he couldn't live at home with his younger sister. He wouldn't accept that, so he waited for his trial...Two charges already had been dropped, and it was clear from the first witness that the rape charge wouldn't stick either. The aggravated child molestation, though, was on tape....He looked at the forewoman. She was crying, seeming to understand they'd just undone a promising future. Indeed, when the jurors found out there was a 10-year mandatory minimum sentence, several were incensed. The prosecution told them to write a letter, then moved on to the next case.