Facebook... "Dirty Rushing"?

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by tunatartare

What makes you think that the other sorority's panhellenic officer hasn't?

I seem to recall a thread by amanda6035 and the panhel issues at her school

ETA: Unless I'm confusing them with another campus, but the situation was almost identical.

[amanda6035]

Originally Posted by tunatartare

What makes you think that the other sorority's panhellenic officer hasn't?

OMFG, are you trying to get into a pissing contest or something? Did I ever say that they hadn't?

No. I didn't.

I don't know what they do. I don't know what their process on how they deal with things is. What I DO know is that because this is a new process, because panhellenic on my campus is still new, that it still has a tendency to be a great big cluster-you-know-what. Don't put words in my mouth, and try to find some underlying meaning behind my post. Believe me, if I wanted to imply something, I wouldn't imply it, I'd flat out say it, thanks. I cant speak for them. I was speaking for us.

[tunatartare]

You emphasized the word OUR in your original post. When people do that, they're trying to place blame on the other party. (ex. No Mrs. Smith, I didn't put a frog in Mary's lunch box.)

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by amanda6035

OMFG, are you trying to get into a pissing contest or something? Did I ever say that they hadn't?

No. I didn't.

I don't know what they do. I don't know what their process on how they deal with things is. What I DO know is that because this is a new process, because panhellenic on my campus is still new, that it still has a tendency to be a great big cluster-you-know-what. Don't put words in my mouth, and try to find some underlying meaning behind my post. Believe me, if I wanted to imply something, I wouldn't imply it, I'd flat out say it, thanks. I cant speak for them. I was speaking for us.

Whoa whoa... I don't know that that was actually a dig. Don't take it so personally.

[amanda6035]

well, I'm sorry you took the emphasis the wrong way. Emphasis can have many meanings. Again, I don't imply. I say. The emphasis showed that I was talking about us.

[amanda6035]

I didn't mean to de-rail the topic with my questions. Oops. now back to your regulary scheduled thread

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by amanda6035

I didn't mean to de-rail the topic with my questions. Oops. now back to your regulary scheduled thread

Eh, it happens

[FSUZeta]

amanda,

the disaffiliation requirements should be written into your schools recruitment rules. it should be spelled out in no uncertain terms. then if a panhellenic officer or a recruitment counselor does not comply with the disaffiliation requirements, the sorority chapter that they are a member of should suffer the repercussions(which should also be noted in the recruitment rules).

if they are not spelled out, the recruitment rules need to be amended asap.

[amanda6035]

Originally Posted by FSUZeta

amanda,

the disaffiliation requirements should be written into your schools recruitment rules. it should be spelled out in no uncertain terms. then if a panhellenic officer or a recruitment counselor does not comply with the disaffiliation requirements, the sorority chapter that they are a member of should suffer the repercussions(which should also be noted in the recruitment rules).

if they are not spelled out, the recruitment rules need to be amended asap.

Could you, or someone possibly send me some ideas on how these rules are specifically laid out in other campuses panhellenic agreements? What kind of disaffiliation rules you follow, and what the consequences are for breaking them?

Unfortunately, everything I found last year that I personally thought was a good idea, was shot down because of the "we're a small school" syndrome. I mean - there were NO REPERCUSSIONS put in place last year, for breaking a spoken upon agreement - so even if someone broke the rules, what was going to happen to them? Nothing. I think I said this in the thread Drolefille mentioned back then - I'm hard core about rules and structures, and without it in place, it drives me nuts. I like to be able to know EXACTLY what I'm allowed to do, and what I'm NOT allowed to do...

I hope things get settled this year. It's a whole new breed of people now....we actually have better relations now, so I hope it stays that way, rather than the cattyness (yes, from both sides, I'm not pointing fingers at them) that it used to be.

[VeniceIsSinking]

At our school, panhellenic created a group on facebook for '06 formal recruitment. It was a private group and only girls who were rushing were allowed in it. No current sorority members were in it except of Panhellenic officers. They used it as an additional method to get information regarding rush out there. Such as events, what to wear etc. It was also a great way to meet the girls you would be rushing with.

I thought it was effective and classy.

[GtownGirl98]

Originally Posted by VeniceIsSinking

At our school, panhellenic created a group on facebook for '06 formal recruitment. It was a private group and only girls who were rushing were allowed in it. No current sorority members were in it except of Panhellenic officers. They used it as an additional method to get information regarding rush out there. Such as events, what to wear etc. It was also a great way to meet the girls you would be rushing with.

I thought it was effective and classy.

That is a great idea!

[twinkle555]

Originally Posted by VeniceIsSinking

At our school, panhellenic created a group on facebook for '06 formal recruitment. It was a private group and only girls who were rushing were allowed in it. No current sorority members were in it except of Panhellenic officers. They used it as an additional method to get information regarding rush out there. Such as events, what to wear etc. It was also a great way to meet the girls you would be rushing with.

I thought it was effective and classy.

yea same here.it was EXTREMELY helpful and i met my future roommate/sister in that group!!

[jaade124]

Originally Posted by FSUZeta

let me get this straight-the sorority set up a group on facebook like: fall rush 2006 or are you rushing this fall, and pnms joined the group? wow! i have known of some campuses where the rho gammas or panhellenic hosted a facebook group like that.

that sorority should have suffered some major fines for that and the pre rush party.

sorry it took me so long to respond! yes i agree! however, this semester which is formal recruitment, panhell decided that facebook recruitment groups could be allowed! However, they had to be shutdown after round robin (which was last night). I still feel tho that facebook is the ultimate dirty rushing tool and there's not much we can do about it.

Concerning rho chis, I kno that the rho chis from my sorority defriended all their sisters, took anything sorority related out of their profiles, and the rest of the chapter was told to make our profiles private or take all pics down of rho chis. A huge pain in the arse.

[jaade124]

Originally Posted by AGDee

3) In many cases, dirty rushing occurs because Total is not set appropriately, leaving too many open spaces in chapters. The worst dirty rushing I've seen was on a campus where quota is 7-9 each year but Total is 45 and none of the chapters are at Total. This is a total set up for chapters to encourage women to drop out of recruitment and accept a bid through COR because every chapter KNOWS they will have empty spaces after formal recruitment.

you've just described my school's greek system in a nutshell.

[acuisla]

One of the campuses I work with deals with facebook in this fashion (quoting 2006 recruitment rules)

XV. The Facebook
1. Rho Chis will remove all mentions of affiliation from their Faceboook profiles, and adjust privacy settings to limit access to their friends by date.
2. Chapter Women will adjust privacy settings to limit access to their friends by date2. Chapter women are strongly encouraged to potray themselves on the facebook in accordance with Panhellenic guidelines. More restrictions may be implemented by individual chapters.

I believe that the chapters on the above campus are mostly self-policing about Facebook contacts. The CPC does spot checks of chapter women's profiles, and the individual organizations do check up on each other. They have seen a problem with the fraternities accidentally giving away CPC/Rho Chi afilliations, but it usually gets straightened out before recruitment. I also believe that there's some contact through Facebook during recruitment, but it doesn't seem to constitute dirty rushing - people are just too darned busy to do any of that. And the PNMs seem to be coached too well about giving everyone a chance and the realities of bid matching for them to fall for the dirty rushing. But I could also be naive here.

What really interests me is how much sorority members use Facebook to research the PNMs. I can share that I know of some organizations that cut PNMs because of the (extremely lewd) profile and pictures they had posted on Facebook. I can add that when I saw one of the PNMs on Facebook, I was glad I wasn't in the chapter and having to make the decision about whether I wanted someone who seemed to be into public soft porn doing it while wearing my letters. That may be judgemental of me, and I'm okay with that - I don't know that my organization can afford to take that kind of a hit to its reputation. However, I wonder if it is fair to do this, when it would take just one person to say to the PNM, "hey, make sure your Facebook profile is classy and clean before recruitment starts".