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11-06-2006, 04:17 PM
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BTW the emcee in the production he was in (the Roundabout Theatre Company) was a bit racier then the one Joel Grey played in the 50's.
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Cabaret premiered in 1966. Joel Gray was in the original cast.
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Re:Emcee role in Caberet
I don't know about you, but I ALWAYS get a gay vibe from the actor playing the emcee, whether he bats for the team or not. The emcee is SUPPOSED to give of a "gay vibe."
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True, or at least a very ambiguous vibe.
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11-06-2006, 05:33 PM
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Now I'm waiting to hear if and when we'll ever find out about Kevin Spacey. There's a guy who's never linked to any women, has persistant rumors run rampant about his sexuality, yet I still don't believe he's gay.
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Maybe he's the real life Troy McClure - a fetish so weird, not quelling the rumours he's gay is preferable to people finding out what the real deal is.
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11-06-2006, 05:44 PM
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Am I the only one who thought when they saw this "is this new to anyone?" I just assumed after seeing a few interviews and such that he was. It seemed apparent to me knowing the emcee role in Caberet.
BTW the emcee in the production he was in (the Roundabout Theatre Company) was a bit racier then the one Joel Grey played in the 50's.
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Well just because you play a role of a gay - or sexually ambiguous - character doesn't mean you are.
And, while the Roundabout's version may seem racier, for 1966 the Emcee was pretty edgy. Probably more so because they didn't have so much gay/bisexual culture out in the open.
And thank you, MystiCat! I was like 50s?!?
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11-06-2006, 05:48 PM
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I always thought he was gay.
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11-06-2006, 05:51 PM
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Thanks for helping me not feel nuts. 
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My mind completely went into the gutter when I read this. I blame the thread topic.
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11-06-2006, 06:30 PM
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How stupid of me. I forgot to out Doogie Howser on the Lance Bass thread. He is so obvious. I also forgot to mention almost every constestant on You think you can Dance especially the winner and anyone over 12 that still uses the name Benji. I think Howie Mandell might be in the closet.
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11-06-2006, 07:28 PM
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Howie's just OCD.
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11-06-2006, 09:53 PM
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Cabaret premiered in 1966. Joel Gray was in the original cast.
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You're right! I'm aging myself!
Boy, could he sing--especially in "Tomorrow Belongs to Me".
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11-07-2006, 12:15 AM
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This is almost as shocking as when half of UCLA's basketball team came out of the closet last year.
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11-07-2006, 12:56 PM
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You're right! I'm aging myself!
Boy, could he sing--especially in "Tomorrow Belongs to Me".
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I sat next to Joel Gray on the subway last year! I had no intention of sitting down that ride, but when I got one I saw him sitting there and there was no one next to him, so I sat. He was reading a script. This was post-seeing him in Wicked, too. I so wanted to say somehting but I just felt dumb; I just wanted to be close to his "greatness" - I love him!
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11-09-2006, 10:48 AM
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Chad Allen and Neil Patrick Harris are both gay? Hmm, I always used to get those two confused! NPH- Doogie Houser, Chad Allen- that show with Shannen Doherty pre 90210?
On a side note, a friend of mine, who is gay, told me that he thinks it is only appropriate that a person named "Neil" is gay.
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11-09-2006, 11:20 AM
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Maybe he's the real life Troy McClure - a fetish so weird, not quelling the rumours he's gay is preferable to people finding out what the real deal is.
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BWAHAHAHAHA! That made me choke on my Cocoa Puffs.
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11-09-2006, 11:45 AM
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This surprised anyone?
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11-11-2006, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by xo_kathy
Well just because you play a role of a gay - or sexually ambiguous - character doesn't mean you are.
And, while the Roundabout's version may seem racier, for 1966 the Emcee was pretty edgy. Probably more so because they didn't have so much gay/bisexual culture out in the open.
And thank you, MystiCat! I was like 50s?!? 
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It may have been edgy then (forgive me for getting the date wrong, obviosusly I wasn't around then and I didn't look this up online before posting, I should know around here to always triple check facts before I say anything) but I was basing my opinion off the Alan Cumming version and having seen him (and spoken with him) several times I knew the part was beyond edgy, it was just plain raunchy. My best friend refers Alan C. as Sex on a Stick in this role.
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12-30-2009, 02:30 PM
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Maybe he's the real life Troy McClure - a fetish so weird, not quelling the rumours he's gay is preferable to people finding out what the real deal is.
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Since this thread has already been unnecessarily bumped, I'll throw my two cents in and completely hijack it. I think this is probably the case with several stars who are widely rumored to be closeted. Paraphilias and fetishes are much more common in men then people would probably expect (although they are very rare in women). Some are actually extremely dangerous to people (like pedophilia and zoophilia, etc) but many are completely harmless, but are so far removed from the actual act of sex with either gender that normal sex is pretty much impossible.
The really sad thing is that many of those people still feel romantic attachment to one of the genders and are in every other way completely normal, fun and successful men. But their inability to have sex can easily preclude any normal sort of relationship.
I actually know somebody who is very close to me who is in this case, and everybody has declared he is gay because he always finds a way to get out of having sex with women (and believe me, he is incredibly attractive and has what I'd call an alpha male personality, so this is fairly common). I'll admit I thought that he was gay too, until he confessed to me during college. It is really sad because his paraphilia doesn't hurt anybody, but it is far too weird for the overwhelming majority of women to deal with. He has always had romantic attraction and crushes to women, but apparently has never been able to be able to sexually satisfy them remotely.
I'd like to think I'd be noble enough to stay with a guy like that if I really loved him, but I'll be honest in that I would freak about the possibility of never being able to have kids. I think it is really sad. It is also admittedly interesting though because I think it shows that sexual imprinting is very different between the genders. Maybe they will figure out why this happens so much more frequently in males as we learn more about the brain.
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