Kerry blows off again

[33girl]

Originally Posted by damasa

Awww, whine whine freaking whine. Typical conservative response. Get over it, there are more important things in life. Most people know Kerry is a babbling fool. Which in reference to your later post in this thread is the reason why there is so much backlash on this. Because Liberals tend to be more open-minded and realize that Kerry is an idiot. When Bush makes a blunder many Conservatives write it off as nothing instead of actually calling it out.

And this is something that drives me nuts. Liberals knew Kerry was an idiot, and voted for him anyway, simply because he wasn't Bush. I absolutely fail to understand that line of reasoning.

The same thing is going on here in PA with the Senate race - people are being asked to vote for Casey just because he's NOT Santorum. Even though he's anti-choice. I hate Santorum too, but I'm not going to vote for Stalin to get rid of Hitler. I'm not voting for EITHER of them, and if someone feels my vote is "wasted" because of this, they can bite me hard.

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by centaur532

This is exactly right. As usual, some conservatives have jumped all over this. It is so retarded that it always seems to come down to 'lol lie-berals'. Seriously, shut up with your ham-fisted rhetoric. Just look at this from a human perspective. Botched joke, no one found it funny, Kerry screwed up and I don't think he'll let it happen again.

It's not just conservatives, democrats have jumped on him too. It's a bit annoying that people are using this incident to attack conservatives - to me, it seems a bit hypocritical to defend Kerry in one breath, and criticize conservatives in the next. (I'm not saying you're a hypocrite, I'm just talking about in general.)

To be clear, I'm not defending or criticizing him. My opinions of him are already well-formed, and this won't make my dislike of him grow any deeper.

33girl, that drives me a bit nuts too; luckily, it sounds like more people in MA are understanding just how bad Kerry is. It's Kennedy who does all the work for MA; hopefully more people will understand this, and Kerry will eventually go down in history as a lackluster Senator.

[damasa]

Originally Posted by 33girl

And this is something that drives me nuts. Liberals knew Kerry was an idiot, and voted for him anyway, simply because he wasn't Bush. I absolutely fail to understand that line of reasoning.

The same thing is going on here in PA with the Senate race - people are being asked to vote for Casey just because he's NOT Santorum. Even though he's anti-choice. I hate Santorum too, but I'm not going to vote for Stalin to get rid of Hitler. I'm not voting for EITHER of them, and if someone feels my vote is "wasted" because of this, they can bite me hard.

Oh I hear you for sure. It's that whole "voting for the lesser of two evils" thing or whatever. I guess it makes sense to some people and it doesn't to others. I just think some people wanted Bush out office so badly that they were willing to throw there support to anyone but him.

I didn't vote for either of those hippies...but my hippie had no chance anyway.

[AlexMack]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

It's not just conservatives, democrats have jumped on him too. It's a bit annoying that people are using this incident to attack conservatives - to me, it seems a bit hypocritical to defend Kerry in one breath, and criticize conservatives in the next. (I'm not saying you're a hypocrite, I'm just talking about in general.)

To be clear, I'm not defending or criticizing him. My opinions of him are already well-formed, and this won't make my dislike of him grow any deeper.

33girl, that drives me a bit nuts too; luckily, it sounds like more people in MA are understanding just how bad Kerry is. It's Kennedy who does all the work for MA; hopefully more people will understand this, and Kerry will eventually go down in history as a lackluster Senator.

Oh I know, I'm not saying you are, it's why I said 'some conversatives'. I would never presume to sweep you all up in one generalization. I still would have voted for Kerry, merely to get Bush out of office. That was the basic mentality. The next general election is going to be very interesting I think.

[Phasad1913]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

I don't think you can chalk this up as solely a political thing, because Democrats have come out today against him.

-and I thinkthey are only doing so for political reasons, not because they were personally offended. They are thinking more strategically, in my opinion, rather than really thinking the man would have whole-heartedly thought that way.

[RU OX Alum]

i heard this quote and thought I might share

"if you choose the lesser of two evils, you are still choosing evil"

[sdsuchelle]

Wow.. he should seriously apologize for saying that. Apparently he says that he read the speech wrong, but still.. awful.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Phasad1913

-and I thinkthey are only doing so for political reasons, not because they were personally offended. They are thinking more strategically, in my opinion, rather than really thinking the man would have whole-heartedly thought that way.

Are you suggesting that any political parties or politicians the week before an election do things for other than political reasons, or at least with an eye to the political effects?

Regardless, here's one Democrat who found the the whole thing tasteless and embarrassing and who thinks, regardless of strategy, a mea cupla is due.

[shinerbock]

Originally Posted by 33girl

And this is something that drives me nuts. Liberals knew Kerry was an idiot, and voted for him anyway, simply because he wasn't Bush. I absolutely fail to understand that line of reasoning.

The same thing is going on here in PA with the Senate race - people are being asked to vote for Casey just because he's NOT Santorum. Even though he's anti-choice. I hate Santorum too, but I'm not going to vote for Stalin to get rid of Hitler. I'm not voting for EITHER of them, and if someone feels my vote is "wasted" because of this, they can bite me hard.

If only Santorum was in a less liberal state, there wouldn't even be a race. Hopefully Rick will find something else to do, he's a great guy.

Look at this picture...
www.drudgereport.com

[AlexMack]

Originally Posted by RU OX Alum

i heard this quote and thought I might share

"if you choose the lesser of two evils, you are still choosing evil"

Honestly though, what was the choice? Bush or Kerry? I'd rather vote for the lesser evil than not vote at all.

[kstar]

Originally Posted by macallan25

bunch of college students ... FoxNews.


...but maybe they are all "too dense to understand."

You said it yourself, they watch Faux News, ergo, they are dense.

[macallan25]

They who? Who is they? I said when I saw the footage on FoxNews.....Ok, maybe I should have said......"when I saw the footage on every major news network on televison.....I didn't see anyone completely understanding and laughing histerically at his well timed "joke.""

Aside from not making any sense, thanks for cutting up and skewing my response into something not even close to what I originally typed. I guess they don't teach reading comprehension at OU, not to mention that you all must have God-awful senses of humor.

....but hey, again, maybe a huge majority of the general public and both the democratic and republican parties are just "dense."

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by RU OX Alum

i heard this quote and thought I might share

"if you choose the lesser of two evils, you are still choosing evil"

Exactly. I've done the same thing as 33Girl more times than I care to think about.

What never ceases to amaze me is the sheer number of people who are completely incapable of saying, "I'm sorry," or "I was wrong." I'm not talking just about Kerry, but he's definitely the poster child of the day for this phenomenon. This is definitely one of those times when an "I'm sorry, I was wrong," is needed, and not "I'm sorry, but...".

[AGDee]

Originally Posted by sdsuchelle

Wow.. he should seriously apologize for saying that. Apparently he says that he read the speech wrong, but still.. awful.

He has issued an apology.

[shinerbock]

I thought he "apologized to no one!"