Kerry blows off again

AlexMack · #1 11-01-2006, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by KSigkid

I don't think you can chalk this up as solely a political thing, because Democrats have come out today against him. This isn't a liberal/conservative thing, this is about people being personally offended. If people were offended by his comments, they have a right to be offended.

If it is a joke that went badly, well, hopefully he'll learn from it and not make the same mistake again; it happens a lot that politicians or public speakers make jokes or lighthearted remarks in speeches and appearances, and those remarks don't go over well. I (and no one else on this board) can explain his motives or what he was thinking, and I'm not going to crucify him over one remark.

This doesn't change my opinion one way or the other. I have a whole bunch of reasons why I'm not a fan of Kerry (stories from staffers, his Senate record, etc.).

This is exactly right. As usual, some conservatives have jumped all over this. It is so retarded that it always seems to come down to 'lol lie-berals'. Seriously, shut up with your ham-fisted rhetoric. Just look at this from a human perspective. Botched joke, no one found it funny, Kerry screwed up and I don't think he'll let it happen again.

shinerbock · #2 11-01-2006, 03:01 PM

It wasn't just the joke, it was his response. He's a loose cannon. "I apologize to no one." What a loser.

macallan25 · #3 11-01-2006, 03:05 PM

Yeah, I just heard about his official response to the situation, "I apologize to no one. If anyone should apologize, it should be President Bush and his failed team." What a complete douchebag.

kstar · #4 11-01-2006, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock

It wasn't just the joke, it was his response. He's a loose cannon. "I apologize to no one." What a loser.

Why should he appologize for people not unerstanding his joke? I don't appologize as it isn't my fault that people are too dense to understand. I think people should be appologizing to Kerry for jumping all over him and insinuating that he was insulting people that have been deployed.

OtterXO · #5 11-01-2006, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kstar

Why should he appologize for people not unerstanding his joke? I don't appologize as it isn't my fault that people are too dense to understand. I think people should be appologizing to Kerry for jumping all over him and insinuating that he was insulting people that have been deployed.

Dude, when I heard what he said I was shocked. It basically sounded like he said that the stupid people who don't do well in school end up in the military. I don't think it was a case of not understanding a joke, it was him completely f-ing up a joke and insulting the military with his f-ed up version of the joke. The fault lies with Kerry and whoever prepared his notes.

MysticCat · #6 11-01-2006, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ann.coulter2

A Democratic congressman told ABC News Tuesday, "I guess Kerry wasn't content blowing 2004, now he wants to blow 2006, too."

I can't believe I'm totally agreeing with something posted by our own "Ann Coulter," but that Democratic Congressman is exactly right.

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Originally Posted by Drolefille

While apparently it was a joke gone bad (directed at the White House, not the troops) he's an idiot.

Correction: It was a bad joke gone worse.

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Originally Posted by kstar

Why should he appologize for people not unerstanding his joke? I don't appologize as it isn't my fault that people are too dense to understand. I think people should be appologizing to Kerry for jumping all over him and insinuating that he was insulting people that have been deployed.

He should apologize (1) because as scripted it was a bad joke, and as delivered it was much worse, and (2) because the problem is not that people were too dense to understand what he said. The problem was that he "botched" the joke badly, and people understood him to mean what he actually said, not what he meant to say.

What an embarrassment.

macallan25 · #7 11-01-2006, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by kstar

Why should he appologize for people not unerstanding his joke? I don't appologize as it isn't my fault that people are too dense to understand. I think people should be appologizing to Kerry for jumping all over him and insinuating that he was insulting people that have been deployed.

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little. What about his "joke" should we all understand?......or maybe you missed the part when both parties and the public in general felt it was absolutely dispicable and ludicrous....even if he did "botch" it. Nothing about his comments sounded like a joke, nor did he say it in a joking manner. I didn't exactly hear a bunch of college students laughing about it when the footage was shown on FoxNews.

...but maybe they are all "too dense to understand."

RU OX Alum · #8 11-01-2006, 03:46 PM

i've had enough of the entire senate....i think they should all be recalled, our legislature is seriously becoming a national embaresment everytime I turn to c-span it is always some dipshit prattling on, seriously i'm ashamed to live in the same hemisphere as these asshol*s

kstar · #9 11-01-2006, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by macallan25

bunch of college students ... FoxNews.

...but maybe they are all "too dense to understand."

You said it yourself, they watch Faux News, ergo, they are dense.

macallan25 · #10 11-01-2006, 09:29 PM

They who? Who is they? I said when I saw the footage on FoxNews.....Ok, maybe I should have said......"when I saw the footage on every major news network on televison.....I didn't see anyone completely understanding and laughing histerically at his well timed "joke.""

Aside from not making any sense, thanks for cutting up and skewing my response into something not even close to what I originally typed. I guess they don't teach reading comprehension at OU, not to mention that you all must have God-awful senses of humor.

....but hey, again, maybe a huge majority of the general public and both the democratic and republican parties are just "dense."

damasa · #11 11-01-2006, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kstar

Why should he appologize for people not unerstanding his joke? I don't appologize as it isn't my fault that people are too dense to understand. I think people should be appologizing to Kerry for jumping all over him and insinuating that he was insulting people that have been deployed.

Many conservatives would like it if he did but they shouldn't. They should be proud of an American "sticking to his guns" or "staying the course" if you will. Oh that,'s right, it's no longer about staying the course...

Why do we need apologies for these statements? I agree it was wrong but we should be searching for ppologies from people that sent your men and women to Iraq for a number of improper reasons, regardless of why we are there now, staying the course and whatnot.

KSigkid · #12 11-01-2006, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by centaur532

This is exactly right. As usual, some conservatives have jumped all over this. It is so retarded that it always seems to come down to 'lol lie-berals'. Seriously, shut up with your ham-fisted rhetoric. Just look at this from a human perspective. Botched joke, no one found it funny, Kerry screwed up and I don't think he'll let it happen again.

It's not just conservatives, democrats have jumped on him too. It's a bit annoying that people are using this incident to attack conservatives - to me, it seems a bit hypocritical to defend Kerry in one breath, and criticize conservatives in the next. (I'm not saying you're a hypocrite, I'm just talking about in general.)

To be clear, I'm not defending or criticizing him. My opinions of him are already well-formed, and this won't make my dislike of him grow any deeper.

33girl, that drives me a bit nuts too; luckily, it sounds like more people in MA are understanding just how bad Kerry is. It's Kennedy who does all the work for MA; hopefully more people will understand this, and Kerry will eventually go down in history as a lackluster Senator.

AlexMack · #13 11-01-2006, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by KSigkid

It's not just conservatives, democrats have jumped on him too. It's a bit annoying that people are using this incident to attack conservatives - to me, it seems a bit hypocritical to defend Kerry in one breath, and criticize conservatives in the next. (I'm not saying you're a hypocrite, I'm just talking about in general.)

To be clear, I'm not defending or criticizing him. My opinions of him are already well-formed, and this won't make my dislike of him grow any deeper.

33girl, that drives me a bit nuts too; luckily, it sounds like more people in MA are understanding just how bad Kerry is. It's Kennedy who does all the work for MA; hopefully more people will understand this, and Kerry will eventually go down in history as a lackluster Senator.

Oh I know, I'm not saying you are, it's why I said 'some conversatives'. I would never presume to sweep you all up in one generalization. I still would have voted for Kerry, merely to get Bush out of office. That was the basic mentality. The next general election is going to be very interesting I think.