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04-24-2006, 09:06 AM
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Re: Update for HK74
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Originally posted by Rain Man
HK, lemme explain what prompted all this to begin with:
Last summer I found an online discussion forum that discussed the issues (personal, professional, and romantic) that American men had with American women. I got into some of the discussions and was able to relate in some respects, but it wasn't until an incident with who I thought was the epitome of a Proverbs 31 woman (something very minor and trivial that I did out of love got blown out of proportion, in a nutshell) occured Christmas of last year that sealed the deal for me and had me sold that AWs were, well incorrigible.
Fast forward to today. Myself and the young lady did not speak to each other for 4 months, though I will tell you that my motives for not speaking was out of a growing hate for her (and a high resentment for women in general). So today, during our worship, we were told to lift the burden of heaviness, which God prompted me that my heaviness burden was b/t myself and her, and that I should try and reconcile our differences. Well, after service I did that and was rewarded with the most vile and nasty attitude I had ever seen in all the 7 years I had known her.
So I go to my pastor and try to explain what had happened and about my resentment with AWs and feminism. He said that I should find an associate pastor and arrange a spiritual mediation b/t myself and her to find out what the core problem is. He also said that he himself at one time had a problem with black women after he was divorced from his first wife, and that his 2nd wife reinstated his love and trust in black women. I say that only because I think God is trying to tell me something. Whatever that is remains to be seen.
Anyway...we'll see what happens.
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RM, sometimes you need to leave well enough alone.
If you went to the woman to try to reconcile your differences, and she wasn't responding the way you think she was, and if you know you did everything you were supposed to do short of stalking her, then leave it alone. She obviously doesn't want to be bothered, or to re-establish that relationship. And I'm not trying to single you out or embarrass you, but if you're having all these problems, have you taken a look at your "technique" to see if it's something wrong that YOU'RE doing?
There are still a lot of good women out there. But if you're going around with a placard with "Looking for a Proverbs 31 woman" on it, then you're likely not going to find her that way. Are you being the Godly man that you're supposed to be? You work on Rainman, or rather let God work on you, while allowing Him also to handle the rest. Did you read also in that chapter that "her husband is known in the gates. . ."? How are YOU known? Are you known for being a Godly witness, or someone just taking up space in the pew? You might not be quite as ready for that Proverbs 31 woman as you think.
Just my Monday morning thoughts. . .
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04-24-2006, 09:31 AM
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Re: Re: Update for HK74
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RM, sometimes you need to leave well enough alone.
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That IMHO is part of the problem; it has led to a lot of passive-aggresive behavior that IMHO is not godly, and should be stopped NOW
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If you went to the woman to try to reconcile your differences, and she wasn't responding the way you think she was, and if you know you did everything you were supposed to do short of stalking her, then leave it alone. She obviously doesn't want to be bothered, or to re-establish that relationship. And I'm not trying to single you out or embarrass you, but if you're having all these problems, have you taken a look at your "technique" to see if it's something wrong that YOU'RE doing?
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That's entirely possible, hence the need for mediation. If I'm gonna be called a moron for trying to make things right, I want it done by an impartial party that knows both of us well and can look at a heart with spiritual eyes.
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There are still a lot of good women out there. But if you're going around with a placard with "Looking for a Proverbs 31 woman" on it, then you're likely not going to find her that way...
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I'm not looking for ANYONE, and haven't in over 2 years. That in part accounts for my finding that discussion board and writing off Western women as a loss.
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...Are you being the Godly man that you're supposed to be? You work on Rainman, or rather let God work on you, while allowing Him also to handle the rest. Did you read also in that chapter that "her husband is known in the gates. . ."? How are YOU known? Are you known for being a Godly witness, or someone just taking up space in the pew? You might not be quite as ready for that Proverbs 31 woman as you think.
Just my Monday morning thoughts. . .
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04-24-2006, 09:36 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Update for HK74
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That's entirely possible, hence the need for mediation. If I'm gonna be called a moron for trying to make things right, I want it done by an impartial party that knows both of us well and can look at a heart with spiritual eyes.
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I see what you are saying. But I have to agree with btb87 that you need to leave well enough alone. One thing about AA women if we are mad about something, leave us alone for a while, we will eventually come around. Pushing the issue will can make it turn ugly when it doesnt have to.
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04-24-2006, 09:54 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Update for HK74
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Originally posted by teena
I see what you are saying. But I have to agree with btb87 that you need to leave well enough alone. One thing about AA women if we are mad about something, leave us alone for a while, we will eventually come around. Pushing the issue will can make it turn ugly when it doesnt have to.
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Speaking from my observations and experiences, by doing nothing, it has only made the situation that much more volatile. And I can almost guarantee you that without some intervention, this volatility will intensify over time, because spirits of anger, resentment, and even quite possibly hate, will fester and linger.
It has to be stopped now.
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04-24-2006, 09:55 AM
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Btb87 just dropped some serious knowledge for it to be a Monday morning rambling.
But remember RainMan, when we seek out forgiveness, the bible tells use that once you have done all that you can to rectify the situation and the person does not respond, then you've done all you can you do - as btb87 said you've got to just leave it alone. Let God work on her - He doesn't need your assistance.  The best thing you can do for this woman is to pray for her.
But at the same time, work on yourself. DO NOT let this bad experience fester into bitterness in your heart towards black american women. You'll could very well EASILY miss out on your blessing.
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04-24-2006, 10:18 AM
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Btb87 just dropped some serious knowledge for it to be a Monday morning rambling.
But remember RainMan, when we seek out forgiveness, the bible tells use that once you have done all that you can to rectify the situation and the person does not respond, then you've done all you can you do - as btb87 said you've got to just leave it alone. Let God work on her - He doesn't need your assistance. The best thing you can do for this woman is to pray for her.
But at the same time, work on yourself. DO NOT let this bad experience fester into bitterness in your heart towards black american women. You'll could very well EASILY miss out on your blessing.
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HK, do you have a scriptural reference for the above? I'm interested in reading that when I get home tonight.
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04-24-2006, 10:29 AM
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I love Wife Swap! I was originally VERY opposed to the concept however, it looks like they try to place the wife with a family that is very opposite to hers so that she and the other family can see what the other half lives like. Based on the discussions that the couples have afterwards, the experience helps each family find balance and not live so extreme to one philosophy or lifestyle.
This show DOES prove that there is more than one way to have a successful marriage. One formula CANNOT work for every couple because each situation is unique based on the background and character of the individuals involved as well as the financial, social and cultural environment in which the couple resides.
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04-24-2006, 11:19 AM
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HK, do you have a scriptural reference for the above? I'm interested in reading that when I get home tonight.
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Psalm 37
And RainMan, btb87 and Honeykiss gave you EXCELLENT advice. Just trust in God and let Him take care of the situation. You don't need someone to "mediate" the situation. I have read your thoughts over the years here and I think you just need a sympathetic friend. You should have looked me up when you came to DC.
I feel your pain and frustration cause I know how sisters can be sometime but you can't knock us all. I've been hurt too many times to count and I still get up, do my thang, raise my children and help others with theirs and I still LOVE THE BLACK MAN!
I really wish you well.
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04-24-2006, 11:35 AM
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HK, do you have a scriptural reference for the above? I'm interested in reading that when I get home tonight.
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Matthew 18
Also, Charles Stanley has a great devotional concerning forgiveness to:
Steps To Forgiving Others By Charles Stanley
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04-24-2006, 09:55 PM
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In observing Dr. Corpening's photo album, she seems to be "so happy" to be married, that she's barely hugging her husband. To me, she seems happiest when she's in solo shots.
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