Dissing other Greeks in step shows. Good 4 greek life or bad?

[OhioCentaur]

Originally posted by marquise1911
I'll be posting them soon...

I appreciate that...

[MightyQuinn]

Originally posted by Senusret I


.. . Then five years from now, the boundaries that you think are set in stone will be pushed back until somebody's feelings get hurt or there's a fight...

The fact that college educated individuals would fight over something someone has said is totally ridiculous. I will admit that I do feel a certain way when other orgs take shots at my Sorority especially when they are attacking our history but never once has it ever resulted in me laying hands on someone. For me, that would be far worse than anything anyone could have ever said. Some people are going to attribute the fighting to those individuals being new in their respective organizations but sadly enough, I've seen some more seasoned members come to blows.

....And Senusret, I know you weren't condoning fighting in your post but I quoted you anyway since you bought it up .

[djjukebox]

Come out / Probate shows should ONLY be about your organization.

Formal competitive stepshows... same rules apply.

I would only subscribe to playing the 'dozens' on informal YARD SHOWS only.

[nonchalant]

Originally posted by Cain
This is a very interesting topic. At my homekoming step-show, we did a diss. The Alphas had just crossed a line, and some people on the campus questioned their sexuality. Just in pure fun, but we did a "Trapped in the CLoset" segment about the Alphas. To get to the point, on the part of the song where R.Kelly says, "I open the door, and I'll be got da#n it's man!" part, we had two bros dressed in Black and Gold come out of a makeshift closet and started booty dancing, and doing the Alpha train in a VEEEERY feminine way. When we pulled this stunt, the whole crowd was in shock. It was like one of those "No they didn't" silences. To this day, there is tension between us for that. So to the greek community, would that be considered as overboard?

lol, this must be becoming a popular diss. The GK AKAs dissed the Deltas to this song too. Long story short, they had a Delta line come out. At the part where R. Kelly says he couldn't believe it was a man, an AKA pulled the wig off of the Delta girl and..........it was a man. That was too funny. The Deltas were extremely mad and took it to university officials. I don't think it was that serious, but oh well. To each his own.

[Lady of Pearl]

Originally posted by nonchalant
lol, this must be becoming a popular diss. The GK AKAs dissed the Deltas to this song too. Long story short, they had a Delta line come out. At the part where R. Kelly says he couldn't believe it was a man, an AKA pulled the wig off of the Delta girl and..........it was a man. That was too funny. The Deltas were extremely mad and took it to university officials. I don't think it was that serious, but oh well. To each his own.

That is way too overboard for the Alpha and the Delta situation-why diss at someone else's expense it only cheapens you in the process I was taught after reactivating that one should show respect to all other greek letter organizations-somehow this is not being communicated to those in undergrad! One would hope that dissing would be passe some major reeducation is needed for all organizations!

[ZetaStorm]

AKA2D '91 I think I must be getting old too...Spring '92
Although there were fights and such between different organizations I made it a point to stress to my Sorors that they were not allowed to diss at all in any stepshows. I don't feel that it is necessary. Back in the day you could poke fun at one another and it was ok but things started changing. People started getting real mean spirited. It looks so bad to see Greeks fighting on campus & away at other stepshows. People thought we were crazy.

We tried to pull it into a more positive direction by taking it back old school and did 'tributes' to highlight each fraternity and sorority. You don't have to be negative to win stepshows. And as far as clowning people's history I don't find that funny at all.

Here we are all African Americans. Look at our history there. Look at what all of our Founders went through to establish our organizations. We were considered the elite in the black community. We were considered leaders. We are supposed to be living up to those same ideals.

I know for a fact if my aunt/Soror ever caught me clowning like that in a stepshow or anywhere else she would personally kick my behind and she's a senior citizen now.

I know when I graduated from undergrad they were having talks and meetings about doing away with all BGLOs at the undergrad level.
I couldn't believe that the topic even came up but then lawsuits and such started pouring in and things were kind of spinning out of control. People were pissed about the MIP but the old heads were not playing. I remember one Pan-Hell. meeting that we all got blasted out at. I think everyone was stunned into silence.

We never thought pledging on the yard, etc. would be taken away. But we all know the outcome there. I've heard people talk so badly about the Greeks I'm left trying to figure out what is going on.

Just something to think about: I remember students joking that the Greeks were just like gangs. They said that we have colors, hand signs and violence just like gangs. All of our community service and work was completely ignored & the only thing that stuck out were all of the fights and disses.

[MeezDiscreet]

Originally posted by djjukebox
Come out / Probate shows should ONLY be about your organization.

Formal competitive stepshows... same rules apply.

I would only subscribe to playing the 'dozens' on informal YARD SHOWS only.

i sooooo agree!

i've seen it turn really personal and really ugly and it's all really unnecessary.

i can't, for the life of me, figure out why someone would dedicate a probate show to dissing another organization. you come off as pressed. and at my UG, one particular organization went to great lengths and spent a lot of time just to diss an organization and even mentioned that organization in their "greetings" (which was such a joke but i won't go there). it begs the question of why you pledged; is it for the love of ABC or the hate for XYZ? it comes off as the latter and it just looks foolish!

i think sometimes, people forget what discretion means. it is more than just "don't tell someone what you want to pledge." discretion is careful decision-making and i don't think that greeks are doing things with discretion. i know that it's supposed to be in fun, but i wouldn't sit through a 30-minute diss of my sorority then pay $10-$20 to support your premier event...

[unspokenone25]

Originally posted by MeezDiscreet
i sooooo agree!

i've seen it turn really personal and really ugly and it's all really unnecessary.

i can't, for the life of me, figure out why someone would dedicate a probate show to dissing another organization. you come off as pressed. and at my UG, one particular organization went to great lengths and spent a lot of time just to diss an organization and even mentioned that organization in their "greetings" (which was such a joke but i won't go there). it begs the question of why you pledged; is it for the love of ABC or the hate for XYZ? it comes off as the latter and it just looks foolish!

i think sometimes, people forget what discretion means. it is more than just "don't tell someone what you want to pledge." discretion is careful decision-making and i don't think that greeks are doing things with discretion. i know that it's supposed to be in fun, but i wouldn't sit through a 30-minute diss of my sorority then pay $10-$20 to support your premier event...

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[MeezDiscreet]

Originally posted by unspokenone25
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[starang21]

Originally posted by MightyQuinn
The fact that college educated individuals would fight over something someone has said is totally ridiculous.

clownin is just that. particularly if you're in another org and you're obviously cool with the people you're dissing. good fun, and that's it.

[Proverbs31]

well...I just attended a "show" last night and was disgusted! Why spend the ENTIRE 2 hours dissing other oganizations. I don't get it.

[K.O.T.S]

were the insults "all in good fun" or just "personal jabs"?

[Proverbs31]

NO, they were personal jabs. Tons of them. Callin' folx out...by name.

[OhioCentaur]

You jab those who throw hooks at you. I wasnt in charge of the show but i'll hold it down for us never the less. We took the obvious rigging of the stroll competition, the staged election of the phc president, and the constant disrespect from those orgs on campus on a DAILY basis personal. Was it an extreme... yea... was it worth it... yea... will it happen again if the problems dont cease... yea. It isnt fair for people to say the show was disgusting when all over campus they are hyping the fact they "slapped" Iota down... thats uncalled for.

[Proverbs31]

Rigging? Yea, okay. "slapped" Iota down? I'm confused. But do you honestly think that the show helped to solve any issues regarding greek unity? NO. So when you say "will it happen again if the problems don't cease" I honestly don't think that you want the problems to cease by adding fuel to the fire. You want me to be specific? Feel free to PM me.