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Old 08-25-2005, 10:53 AM
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However, I think that newer organizations to need to establish a council of their own...maybe a national Black (or whatever name they choose) Greek Council? I know there is a national Multicultural Greek Council.
I am a little bit confused (please bear with me because I do not know much about NPHC). Are you suggesting that the newer BGLOs start a council that would be very similar to NPHC? I don't quite understand forming a new council that will do the same thing as the NPHC. I guess to me that would be like forming a second NPC, which I could see getting very confusing.

Maybe you can explain it better.
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Old 08-25-2005, 11:10 AM
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I am a little bit confused (please bear with me because I do not know much about NPHC). Are you suggesting that the newer BGLOs start a council that would be very similar to NPHC? I don't quite understand forming a new council that will do the same thing as the NPHC. I guess to me that would be like forming a second NPC, which I could see getting very confusing.

Maybe you can explain it better.
It doesn't have to be similiar to NPHC. I have found that a lot of these organizations are formed partly because the founders don't like the way things are done in NPHC. So they could come up with their own council that would address the needs they feel NPHC doesn't meet. A lot of universities have Black Greek Councils anyway so it could become a national organization.
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Old 08-25-2005, 11:13 AM
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The admittance of Iota was very acrimonious because of one particular NPHC member that was admantly against it.
Did it have anything to do w/ the fact that Iota got admittance to NIC first, or did the group opposing it just not want another group in NPHC?
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Old 08-25-2005, 04:40 PM
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Did it have anything to do w/ the fact that Iota got admittance to NIC first, or did the group opposing it just not want another group in NPHC?
The latter.
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Old 08-25-2005, 05:07 PM
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The latter.
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Old 08-25-2005, 06:25 PM
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Wouldnt it Be Nice If All Greeks Expanded?

Granted, each Conference has Its Way of Looking at Expansion.
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Old 08-25-2005, 06:27 PM
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Wouldnt it Be Nice If All Greeks Expanded?
Literally?
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Old 08-25-2005, 06:34 PM
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Does That Need a retort?

It reads as It Says!

Just what Is your post? Oh, Just what does Your Post mean?
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Old 08-25-2005, 07:22 PM
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Ask an Iota how long it took them to get in. Starang, where are you?
it took a long time...
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Old 08-25-2005, 07:23 PM
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the tenacity of the Iotas.
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Old 08-25-2005, 08:55 PM
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NPHC membership requirements - from their website

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The NPHC constitution dictates that any group with an African American greek lettered focus can join them if they have been active for at least 25 years with an appropriate number of affiliate chapters.

Moreover, when I say greek lettered focus, I mean it is not for a "profession" in nature--such as only Biology Majors can join, etc. It has to be open to all people with a strong constitution.

It also must have a national and international office as well as conferences. And they must be willing to sign the agreements made between all the organizations for some of its activities--such as anti-hazing statutes, etc., a course for membership intake, accounting procedures, it main non-profit center or 501(c)3 status, etc. And the organization must be incorporated.

Moreover, like others NPHC affiliates stated that there must be at least 50% or more of its membership active at the collegiate and graduate levels.

There are also participations within the NPHC national and international conferences and conventions. And there are hefty dues that are required to be paid, yearly.
Here are the official NPHC Affiliate Member requirements, from the NPHC Website

Section 8. Eligibility for Affiliate Membership. To be eligible for affiliate membership in NPHC, a fraternity or sorority which did not hold membership prior to December 1995 must meet the following requirements. The fraternity or sorority shall:

a. Be devoted to general fraternity or sorority ideals and be in conformity with the NPHC Constitution and Bylaws and the NPHC Mission Statement.
b. Have been in existence for at least fifteen (15) years and shall have been incorporated in the United States of America.
c. Be national in scope and consist of a total of no less than one hundred (100) undergraduate and alumni chapters, which have a current financial membership of at least five (5) persons. Of the aforesaid 100 undergraduate and alumni chapters, a total of no less than fifty (50) must have been a part of the fraternity or sorority for at least ten (10) years.
d. Have constitutional provisions for a national convention, with interim authority vested in trustees, a board of directors or the officers who supervise the affairs of the fraternity or sorority.
e. Have undergraduate chapters recognized by and be in good standing with accredited four-year colleges or universities which offer at least a baccalaureate degree.

For the purpose of this section “accredited” shall mean institutions in the United States which are accredited by one of the regional accrediting agencies in the American Council of Education. Institutions located outside of the United States shall be accredited by the appropriate agency/organization in that locale.
For the purpose of this section, an undergraduate chapter is recognized by an institution, if its membership is drawn from students enrolled at such institution, and formal agreement with or recognition by such institution is required or implied.


Based on this criteria, not even the largest non-NPHC fraternities (Phi Eta Psi and Phi Delta Psi) is eligible to join NPHC, even thought Phi Eta Psi is a member of NIC. OTOH, I seriously doubt either org is clamouring to join to begin with.

Also, a younger non-NPHC org (founded 1993) Pi Psi addresses their non-membership status in NPHC in one of their websites' FAQ's:

(Taken from the Pi Psi Fraternity, Alpha Chapter website)

Is Pi Psi going to be in the NPHC?
PI PSI currently is not a member of the NPHC. At this present time we are not looking to join the NPHC because we must focus on growth, community service, and maintaining our standards. Maybe in the future Pi Psi will petition for that but not at this moment.

Also, another org founded in 1986, Beta Phi Pi, makes no mention of any planned NPHC membership.

So in short, IMHO the NPHC alienated and/or discouraged a lot of other orgs from even thinking about joining NPHC in the future.

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Old 08-25-2005, 09:02 PM
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Re: NPHC membership requirements - from their website

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So in short, IMHO the NPHC alienated and/or discouraged a lot of other orgs from even thinking about joining NPHC in the future.
by imposing restrictions on membership?

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Old 08-25-2005, 09:23 PM
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Re: Re: NPHC membership requirements - from their website

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by imposing restrictions on membership?

By imposing (relative to NIC and NPC standards) very stringent restrictions on membership, to say the least. But I think as far and alienation and discouragement goes, membership restrictions are the tip of a very large iceberg when it comes to NPHC/non-NPHC relations.
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Old 08-25-2005, 09:29 PM
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So our restrictions are "stringent" because we want to make sure an organization is well established before being granted membership?
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Old 08-25-2005, 09:31 PM
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Re: Re: Re: NPHC membership requirements - from their website

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By imposing (relative to NIC and NPC standards) very stringent restrictions on membership, to say the least.
how ridiculous.
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