School District suspends student for talking to mom in Iraq!

[Tom Earp]

Originally posted by ZTABullwinkle
The Truth - I have to agree with everything that you said.

My father was on a submarine during the Cold War. Needless to say, we would go a month or longer with no communication (no mail or phone calls) with him or the sub. Luckily, nowadays, soldiers have access to things like cell phones and computers. I will never forget the Christmas someone bombed a church in Italy, where my dad's sub was docked. Scared the he** out of us, not to mention all the phone calls my mother received from the other wives. it was almost three-four hours before we heard from my Dad to say everyone was okay.

I know it is a totally different situation, but that kid had every right to be pissed off. I don't live in that school district, but my blood was BOILING as they reported it here in Hampton Roads, the largest military base in the US.

While True, that doesnt show respect to His Teachers, as I stated, if He had explained the Situation then it may very well have not been a problem. What I and some ohters said was the Shit He gave and being a dickwad.

His Mouth got Him In trouble, not his logic.

[moe.ron]

So, if there was a kid whose parents was a contractor in Iraq, will we give him the benefit of the doubt? What about a parent who work for non military institution, but still get sent to hostile territory (ie Red Cross, UN, etc). Will he or she get the same support that many have give to this kid?

[Rudey]

Originally posted by moe.ron
So, if there was a kid whose parents was a contractor in Iraq, will we give him the benefit of the doubt? What about a parent who work for non military institution, but still get sent to hostile territory (ie Red Cross, UN, etc). Will he or she get the same support that many have give to this kid?

Yes.

-Rudey

[moe.ron]

Originally posted by Rudey
Yes.

-Rudey

Even if the child is out of line and cursed his teacher? I do think that 10 days was overkill. However, he should be punished and felt the 3 days was appropriate.

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally posted by Tom Earp
The Truth and all, I am sure if He explained this situation and was in a study hall or what ever He would have been given the A-Okay.

But No, he got smart assed mouth, for sure. That has been the problem from the get go.

If I was a Teacher in that situation, I am sure I and many others may have done the same thing.

While some of you sit and judge, ask some Teachers who cannot do shit to these Kids who get uncontrolable!


Rights, what rights do Kids have, come out of High School Stupid?
Thank You ACLU!

Dont handcuff a 5 year old who disrupted School and beat on a Teacher.
For that I will not watch a certain TV show. The Emcee made a big deal and almost cried about it. Schumck!

Why, try to be a Teacher when You cant if they dont want to learn.

Tom Earp, for the second time this month:

What role does the American Civil Liberties Union play in your post?

[Rudey]

Originally posted by moe.ron
Even if the child is out of line and cursed his teacher? I do think that 10 days was overkill. However, he should be punished and felt the 3 days was appropriate.

I don't know what you're asking. You asked if the support would be there if the parent was in something else and that's the only thing that changed in a different situation. And I said yes.

-Rudey

[moe.ron]

Originally posted by Rudey
I don't know what you're asking. You asked if the support would be there if the parent was in something else and that's the only thing that changed in a different situation. And I said yes.

-Rudey

Sorry, that was an Earp moment. Something caught my attention on tv and my hand kept on typing.

[Tom Earp]

GP, it is My Way of fighting against a group who profess to do do so good and Screw up so much. I do not read every post that is posted as some do. I have other things to do.

moe.ron, please just have an Earp Moment anytime!!!!

Yes, the child should have been postulized for His Crap.

One says Hey, Man My Bro Gets by it, then S**t Dude I can too.

So good luck being a Teacher in/at any level.

Try being a College Graduate who went to The NBA from Creighhton U. who could not read or write?

How did they find out, He couldnt read the Contract! DA! OH, actually sign His Name. X marks the spot!

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally posted by Tom Earp
GP, it is My Way of fighting against a group who profess to do do so good and Screw up so much. I do not read every post that is posted as some do. I have other things to do.

Then I blame the National Right-to-Life for this! AND YOU!

[The Truth]

Originally posted by moe.ron
So, if there was a kid whose parents was a contractor in Iraq, will we give him the benefit of the doubt? What about a parent who work for non military institution, but still get sent to hostile territory (ie Red Cross, UN, etc). Will he or she get the same support that many have give to this kid?

My parents are contractors in Kuwait, and I believe that any child that has a parent in any hostile territory should be given some "special treatment" at school. You can't expect for news of your parents well being to wait until after 3pm. H*** how would some of you parents feel if your child fell sick and the school decided you could wait to find out when they got home? Same difference. If at any point there is an emergency and a parent needs to notify their child, no teacher, teacher's aide, hallway monitor, principal, or anyone for that matter should snatch a phone. Teachers sometime mistake their role as a "parent away from home". It is okay to feel like that, but don't expect to be treated as such.

I think that people are really just concentrating on the fact that he has a "smart mouth". I gaurantee that the teacher approached him with the intent to discipline him as opposed to approaching him with concern. I find it hard to believe that the teacher excused her/himself then asked who was on the phone because they have a rule for cell phones. The teacher came off rude initially and that is why he REACTED the way he did. Y'all need to think about what that teacher said that made him blow up. Do you really think it was "Excuse me, is there a problem because I know you are aware of our policy on cell phone use. " or "Hey you can't be on your cell phone during school hours so you need to get off the phone.

Now in some cases it is okay to see a situation and take action, but sometimes you need to stop and assess a situation. As a teacher that is a skill you must have. H*** I would assume that something was wrong if he was on his cell phone and wasn't trying to hide it when he seen me (the teacher) approaching.

What is done is done, but if I was his guardian I would have went up to the school and TOLD them he was going back to class. There would be no suspension of any kind. Both parties could have handled it differently and they didn't. So if the teacher does not get punished neither is the concerned child.

[Rudey]

I just had a question. How is Kuwait a hostile territory? I mean it's not like you're living it up in Dubai but still, is it really hostile?

The first chance I get to work in the United Arab Emirates, I will put my butt on the first flight there and be a rock star for a few years.

-Rudey

Originally posted by The Truth
My parents are contractors in Kuwait, and I believe that any child that has a parent in any hostile territory should be given some "special treatment" at school. You can't expect for news of your parents well being to wait until after 3pm. H*** how would some of you parents feel if your child fell sick and the school decided you could wait to find out when they got home? Same difference. If at any point there is an emergency and a parent needs to notify their child, no teacher, teacher's aide, hallway monitor, principal, or anyone for that matter should snatch a phone. Teachers sometime mistake their role as a "parent away from home". It is okay to feel like that, but don't expect to be treated as such.

I think that people are really just concentrating on the fact that he has a "smart mouth". I gaurantee that the teacher approached him with the intent to discipline him as opposed to approaching him with concern. I find it hard to believe that the teacher excused her/himself then asked who was on the phone because they have a rule for cell phones. The teacher came off rude initially and that is why he REACTED the way he did. Y'all need to think about what that teacher said that made him blow up. Do you really think it was "Excuse me, is there a problem because I know you are aware of our policy on cell phone use. " or "Hey you can't be on your cell phone during school hours so you need to get off the phone.

Now in some cases it is okay to see a situation and take action, but sometimes you need to stop and assess a situation. As a teacher that is a skill you must have. H*** I would assume that something was wrong if he was on his cell phone and wasn't trying to hide it when he seen me (the teacher) approaching.

What is done is done, but if I was his guardian I would have went up to the school and TOLD them he was going back to class. There would be no suspension of any kind. Both parties could have handled it differently and they didn't. So if the teacher does not get punished neither is the concerned child.

[The Truth]

Originally posted by Rudey
I just had a question. How is Kuwait a hostile territory? I mean it's not like you're living it up in Dubai but still, is it really hostile?

The first chance I get to work in the United Arab Emirates, I will put my butt on the first flight there and be a rock star for a few years.

-Rudey

It is not as bad as Iraq, but what I mentioned earlier about my parents calling me to report they were okay because a scud blew up the building down the street from their apartment is true. S*** still happens to that country.

During the war, the military and contractor workers were issued all this protective gear and they had to use it more than once. So Kuwait is just not as peaceful as you think. It is easier to attack Americans in Kuwait from Iraq, than it is to attack them in America from Iraq.

Lately, there hasn't been too many problems, but you never know what can happen.