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12-22-2004, 05:31 AM
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Well, in the case of everything I know to be greek
Alpha Fee
Alpha Fye Delta
Yes, the pronunciation does depend on if the Phi is followed by another letter or not. Accept it and let it go.
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12-22-2004, 05:39 AM
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My pizza guy delivers to the Greek Orthodox church and that's how he explained it to me.
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We have a Greek brother. No, a REAL Greek. He took exception to our 'greek' alphabet because it is not at all 'THE' greek alphabet. We didn't require him to learn ours under the understanding that he "know how to pronounce them so as to not offend another GLO".
So your pizza guy is right, if we were in Greece. You'll find that the american greek system is very different than anything that has to do with actual greeks.
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12-22-2004, 10:02 AM
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See this is
the reason why
we should never
have colonies in Greece.
Imagine what would
happen if we have
a convention and
there is a big fight
about Phi?
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12-22-2004, 10:03 AM
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Originally posted by moe.ron
See this is
the reason why
we should never
have colonies in Greece.
Imagine what would
happen if we have
a convention and
there is a big fight
about Phi?
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water just came up my noise. thanks.
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12-22-2004, 10:45 AM
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Originally posted by SplitzSTG
Yes, the pronunciation does depend on if the Phi is followed by another letter or not. Accept it and let it go.
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Allow me to retort:
[Incorrect and completely unsupported statement]! Accept it and let it go! Deal with it! Period! End of discussion! [other lame and utterly useless imperative device used by message board posters to attempt end the discussion early thus distracting attention from the fact that the statement is absolute bollocks]!
Find me one published source that supports your statement about pronunciation. An article. An internet link. A greek language textbook. Anything. Until then, I will EXcept your comments and let them go.
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Originally posted by SplitzSTG
We have a Greek brother. No, a REAL Greek. He took exception to our 'greek' alphabet because it is not at all 'THE' greek alphabet. We didn't require him to learn ours under the understanding that he "know how to pronounce them so as to not offend another GLO".
So your pizza guy is right, if we were in Greece. You'll find that the american greek system is very different than anything that has to do with actual greeks.
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Hey Mr. Literal: I understand that sarcasm tends to lose some of its sharp edge in the wee dark hours of the morning, so get a few winks, have a cup of coffee and read it again by light of day. Hint: The pizza guy was a metaphorical figure.
Thanks for the tutorial on the American Greek system though.
I’m dying to hear how the Greek alphabet is not the REAL Greek alphabet, and how ethnic greek members of fraternities and sororities have to change their pronunciations so as not to offend other GLO members.
wptw:
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12-22-2004, 10:58 AM
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I want to be just like Coral on Real World NYC Part 2....She's my idol!!!
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You mean you want really big boobs and an even bigger forehead?
No one is insulted if you don't know something about a type of GLO other than your own. And no one would be insulted if a non-NPC Greek said, for example, "what does suicide bidding mean?" We've had discussions on here about how NPHC rush and NPC rush and IFC rush are all totally different and everyone's been respectful and learned something.
But it's when you say OMGWTF HOW CAN YOU BE A MEMBER WITHOUT KNOWING SO AND SO that people tend to get a little jacked.
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12-22-2004, 12:04 PM
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I just wana thank all of you for making me smile this morning.
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12-22-2004, 12:10 PM
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It's because Rutgers banned the color pink. Those who are not exposed to pink on a regular basis lack manners on the interweb because they lack the vital pheremones that make people happy. All you need to know to understand RGLOs is that there is no "p-i-n-k" in their lives. If you see the word "pink" referenced by someone in a RGLO they really mean "I wish I went to school somewhere else."
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You are so so wise. I hope one day I will be able to interpret like you.
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12-22-2004, 12:47 PM
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Some of you need to visit a Turkish bathhouse and get a nice little massage...maybe a full service massage...and relax because you're getting stressed over the most insignificant thing ever.
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12-22-2004, 12:49 PM
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Some of you need to visit a Turkish bathhouse and get a nice little massage...maybe a full service massage...and relax because you're getting stressed over the most insignificant thing ever.
-Rudey
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12-22-2004, 12:54 PM
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A small rant
OK, hate to be the one who brings this oh-so-scintillating discussion on how to pronounce the Greek Alphabet to a screeching halt, but here is a link that you'll find helpful. You can even click on the letter and hear how it is actually pronounced!
The Real Deal
This subject comes up over and over again and as an "ethnic Greek" it makes me batty. And no, I have never changed the pronunciation of the Greek Alphabet to avoid offending other GLO members. If anything, *I* should be offended that you're mangling my native tongue. But I'm not, because its unreasonable to expect non-Greek speakers to pronounce Greek perfectly. News flash: Ethnic Greeks will not go into a homicidal rage if you can't pronounce "Phi" correctly. Nor do we lose sleep at night over "X-eye," "Zee," or "Ksee."
In fact, when I'm with other GLO members even *I* pronounce the Greek alphabet the Anglicised way because I don't want to get into this asinine conversation EVERY DAMN TIME.
Thank you, drive through.
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12-22-2004, 12:58 PM
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How do the Bush twins pronounce it?
THEY'RE THETAS YOU KNOW
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12-22-2004, 12:59 PM
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I don't think that's going to bring the thread to a halt. I posted that link years ago and CutiePie2000 posted links to all of those threads where we've discussed this previously. People post their random theories regardless of how much people post the real deal.
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12-22-2004, 01:02 PM
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I'll look to the Bush family for pronunciation advice when W learns how to pronounce the word "nuclear".
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12-22-2004, 01:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Lil' Hannah
How do the Bush twins pronounce it?
THEY'RE THETAS YOU KNOW
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And they're hot. Can you stop hating?
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