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12-21-2004, 11:18 PM
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Originally posted by Rudey
Dah for real noooo!@#%
"I knew a loser who made his own local! You kan 2 "
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You are so wise.
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If this person had problems, I guess She doesnt now from post placed as she has not been back.
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12-21-2004, 11:18 PM
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Originally posted by AnchorAlum
When I was active in Alumnae Panhellenic, we found out about a girl who pledged at a school in Cali, did not like it, transferred to a school in Ohio, and without ever formally depledging at her old school, she pledged another NPC group and was initiated at her Ohio school.
Now, no longer being a student may have automatically "de-pledged" her, but we were all confused because some alums from various groups said they considered it a depledging because the girl was no longer a university student, but others insisted that their groups required the pledge to sign a form, and that created the mandatory year long wait, no matter where she was enrolled.
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from the Panhellenic Compact:
7. When a pledge transfers to another campus, her pledge is broken, and she is eligible to pledge an NPC fraternity on that campus at the earliest opportunity.
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12-22-2004, 12:58 AM
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I do know this is different for an active, but don't the fraternities have a different scenario?
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I venture to guess that this applies to most social fraternities that are inter/national in scope and do not belong to the NIC.
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By-Laws of The North-American Interfraternity Conference
(Revised April 26, 2004)
Section 1. Membership Requirements.
(3) Be mutually exclusive of and in competition with other general fraternities, meaning that no member fraternity shall initiate a member of another fraternity until such time as the second fraternity shall have been formally notified in writing by the national office of the first fraternity that a candidate for membership in the second fraternity is no longer regarded as a member of the fraternity.
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12-22-2004, 09:58 AM
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You should change your name and identity and re-rush-
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12-22-2004, 01:44 PM
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Originally posted by MadFratter
You should change your name and identity and re-rush-
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Haha, I would be interested to meet a person who would go to all that trouble to rush.
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12-23-2004, 02:12 AM
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Haha, I would be interested to meet a person who would go to all that trouble to rush.
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she'd end up being the first woman president. You'd be called the First Gentleman. Then, one day after her second ingauration, you'll be sipping champenge, and she'll tell you some top secret information and then get paranoid and have the secret service kill you and make it look like a stroke or a car crash or something. That's a dangerous road, my friend. Trust me, you do not wish to travel down it.
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12-23-2004, 10:51 AM
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The scenario doesn't sound too crazy too me. I have actually heard of a chapter who initiated a girl who stopped paying and attending new member events because they needed to improve their numbers. I don't know if she attended the actual initiation ceremony but she was listed as a member on paper. She eventually disaffiliated.
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12-23-2004, 01:47 PM
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Originally posted by 33girl
from the Panhellenic Compact:
7. When a pledge transfers to another campus, her pledge is broken, and she is eligible to pledge an NPC fraternity on that campus at the earliest opportunity.
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But pledging isn't the issue here anyway. She wasn't a pledge, she initiated didn't she? In which case she's never eligible to join another NPC, even if she were to turn in her old letters.
Anyone who is active in an NPC knows that full well too. Unless she had no pledge class (new member, whatever) at all, which I find hard to believe. But we're all told before we initiate that it's for life. Once you've witnessed ritual there's no turning back.
So I too find the threads a bit shifty.
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12-23-2004, 01:49 PM
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I was replying to Anchor Alum's question - not the original poster's. The original poster is SOL.
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12-23-2004, 01:56 PM
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Originally posted by gphi2k2
But pledging isn't the issue here anyway. She wasn't a pledge, she initiated didn't she? In which case she's never eligible to join another NPC, even if she were to turn in her old letters.
Anyone who is active in an NPC knows that full well too. Unless she had no pledge class (new member, whatever) at all, which I find hard to believe. But we're all told before we initiate that it's for life. Once you've witnessed ritual there's no turning back.
So I too find the threads a bit shifty.
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Actually, yes I was told that being a Phi Mu was for life. But we don't typically discuss what happens if you deactivate, initiate, depledge, transfer, etc.
People... please remember not to assume that just because you learned these kinds of things in YOUR pledge class, maybe there are some that do not know.
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12-25-2004, 01:32 AM
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Thanks for the info.
I was just curious. LOL at the first woman president, though!
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12-26-2004, 02:47 AM
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Doesn't NPC (and I'm assuming IFC) use Social Security Numbers to make sure no one attempts to initiate into two different groups? So even changing your name doesn't work....is that right???
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12-26-2004, 04:02 AM
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it is possible to change your social security number thought. I looked into it for a story about domestic abuse. If someone really really wanted to she could change her name and ss#. I was actually wondering, again for the research for the paper, how someone could be found. Again, if a women was a victim of domestic abuse and she changed her name, which is public record of some time and then changed her ss# could this person be found. I imagine it could be possible but would any panhallenic council have the resources to put that much effort into something?
I could imagine if a women could go through all that trouble because a panhel council would not have the resources to search too much. Some people say that they have contacts and search for imformation about girls, but quite honestly most people in my hometown would not really know much about me beyond who my mother is, and trust me my mother would not be able to tell what sorority I was in, she might be able to tell you that i was in a sorority but not which one. I can see how someone might be able to do something, espcially if it was in the north and she did not tell the school that she transferred from another college .
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12-26-2004, 09:22 AM
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ummm... anyone who went through that much trouble to change their identity to rush has some major problems psychologically, and they'd likely show that in other ways during rush.
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12-26-2004, 01:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by MissOh2Cute
Doesn't NPC (and I'm assuming IFC) use Social Security Numbers to make sure no one attempts to initiate into two different groups? So even changing your name doesn't work....is that right???
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I don't know if that's true or not, but in Canada that could never happen. It is illegal to ask for a SIN (Social insurance number...same thing as an SSN) for identification purposes.
Just some useless information for you.
But you can ask for all the identification in the world but it's no good if it's not verified.
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