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Old 04-25-2001, 11:29 AM
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blah blah blah, he deserves to get taken for half if he was stupid enough to marry her w/out a prenup.

did anyone hear that their engagement was broken off for a while and that kobie was seen dating a supermodel? the rumor flying through dallas was that kobie broke it off because he "insisted" on a prenup stating that regardless of whatever she would only receive 30% of his assets upon the dissolvment of their marriage. she refused. so he refused. do you suppose she or he changed their mind???
It BETTER have been her to capitulate, but nookie just isn't worth poverty.

I don't understand how those people get caught out there like that. But that's a whole different story, different thread.
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Old 04-25-2001, 11:48 AM
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If you can get your hands on Eric's 1st album "True To Myself" (the better of the 2, IMO), there's a track dedicated to the mother that's a real tearjerker. I think it's called "While You Were Here". Anyway, I digress.
That is a great song!! And it defintiely will make you cry. I just so love Eric Benet.
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Old 04-25-2001, 01:32 PM
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You know, I had heard during the whole David Justice/Halle Berry breakup that she was inpossible to live with...even though it was rumored that Justice was the one who messed around on her...Also, if you think about this whole car accident thingy that Halle had which she claims she remembers nothing about, it makes you wonder if she has some deep issues. Maybe Eric Benet is beginning to realize that ole girl may not be all that she is cracked up to be. hmmmmmm *finger on chin*.

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Old 04-25-2001, 03:24 PM
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Halle's had men issues since Christopher Williams. I think that was her gettin slapped around by him.

But, yeah, she was tired (after THREE MONTHS??? ) of taking third to hhis music and his daughter. From what I saw on TV, she is looking DAve's way again, that hussy! I think divorce shouldn't be so easy for celebs, it's like Flavor of the Month with them! Pamela and Tommy getting back together, AGAIN? And he took a frying pan to her?
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Old 04-25-2001, 04:12 PM
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There is also a rumor floating around that Beyonce' (of [Destiny's]Beyonce's Children) is dating Eminem ...their "people" had no comments about this one-so either it's true (o-kay...) or they feel that it is too preposterous to speak on.

But here's what gets me.
Brandy used to date Kobe, but rumor has it that her mother ordered her to break off the relationship. She did. She also dated Wanya Morris, but Mommy Dearest didn't like him either, so she ended that as well. Just recently she had a "relationship" with Tyrese (he is gorgeous!), but once again Mommy stepped in, saying that it (the relationship) was getting too serious. Talk about a momma's girl!
(read the article-follow the link) http://www.wdasfm.com/djs/mn_pjackson_archives.html

I tells ya. Rumors just floatin around. Folks ears burnin up! I just heard Beyonce linked with Tiger Woods. My thoughts: Impossible.
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Old 04-25-2001, 07:30 PM
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I tells ya. Rumors just floatin around. Folks ears burnin up! I just heard Beyonce linked with Tiger Woods. My thoughts: Impossible.
Girrrrl please. Tiger would never publicly claim that ghetto-speaking child. Shoot - somebody might actually think he was dating a girl who was... black.
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Old 04-26-2001, 08:12 PM
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This article was posted in MY YAHOO about the Berry/Benet couple.

Thursday April 26 1:39 PM ET
Berry, Husband Sue Over Star Story


LOS ANGELES (AP) - Actress Halle Berry and her musician husband, Eric Benet, have sued the Star tabloid for libel for describing their marriage as ``on the rocks.''

The couple, who wed in January, also accused the tabloid of invasion of privacy and infliction of emotional distress in the lawsuit filed in Superior Court on Wednesday. It seeks $5 million in damages.

In a statement, the couple said the article published last week was ``offensive and baseless'' and that falsehoods contained in it included statements that Benet had ``moved out of Halle's house for a few days'' with their child and ``was looking for a condo of his own.''

Officials with the Lantana, Fla.-based Star did not immediately return a phone message seeking comment.

**FYI: When I posted this last night, it was not with the intent to shut people up about Halle or Eric but just to pass along "correct" information. ***



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Old 04-27-2001, 01:02 AM
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Thanks CrimsonTide4, ya know..I don't really care for "slanderous gossip" anyway ..This'll teach me not to carry on without knowing the facts.



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Old 04-27-2001, 07:09 PM
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Oh Yeah....Toni Braxton and Keri what ever his last name is from Mint Condition got married on Saturday as well. Ahhhhhhh ((Eclipse singing)) love is in the air......
i found this on my favorite gossop site:

THAT was some $1 million wedding Toni Braxton and Kerry Lewis had at Dean's Gardens outside of Atlanta. Folks tell me the fireworks alone cost $100,000. The bride and groom were married by former Atlanta Mayor/Ambassador Andrew Young. Their guests included the Governor of Georgia, Atlanta Mayor Bill Campbell, Monica, Usher, Donnell Jones, T-Boz and Mack 10 (who arrived in a white Bentley), Rozonda "Chili" Thomas, Montel Jordan, Susan Taylor, Michael Jai White and Kenny "Babyface" and Tracey Edmonds. The guests were serenaded by a 16 piece chamber orchestra. Toni's sisters Tawanda, Trina, Tracey and Tamar were her bridesmaids. Her dress was by Vera Wang and Toni wore a diamond tiara by Stephen Russell. Rumor has it the newlyweds may be honeymooning in Paris.



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Old 04-28-2001, 09:11 PM
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This article was posted in MY YAHOO about the Berry/Benet couple.

Thursday April 26 1:39 PM ET
Berry, Husband Sue Over Star Story


LOS ANGELES (AP) - Actress Halle Berry and her musician husband, Eric Benet, have sued the Star tabloid for libel for describing their marriage as ``on the rocks.''

The couple, who wed in January, also accused the tabloid of invasion of privacy and infliction of emotional distress in the lawsuit filed in Superior Court on Wednesday. It seeks $5 million in damages.

In a statement, the couple said the article published last week was ``offensive and baseless'' and that falsehoods contained in it included statements that Benet had ``moved out of Halle's house for a few days'' with their child and ``was looking for a condo of his own.''

Officials with the Lantana, Fla.-based Star did not immediately return a phone message seeking comment.

**FYI: When I posted this last night, it was not with the intent to shut people up about Halle or Eric but just to pass along "correct" information. ***

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Well, they need to sue Extra, National Enquirer uncovered, and my local news station, because all three mentioned the divorce.
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Old 07-10-2001, 12:01 AM
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KOBE has bought a 10 BEDROOM HOUSE complete with pool, lagoon, and pirate ship

KOBE KICKS KIN TO CURB?

NBA star buys new home, parents move back home.

*Has Kobe Bryant denied thy father and mother? 360Hiphop reports that the LA Laker recently bought a $13.5 million home in Orange County, CA, but that his parents are
moving back to Philly and out of the home he bought them because of their dislike for Bryant's wife.
The site reports that moms and pops don't seem to like her much and have labeled the young bride a gold-digger. Well,
she's certainly struck gold because the Kobe Bryant's now reside on 9 1/2 acres, with 10 bedrooms, a movie theater, and a four-car
garage.
http://personalfinance.aol.homestore...ault.asp?pic=1

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Old 07-10-2001, 12:38 AM
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Well the rumors must continue, recently I was told that now Kobe and Vanessa are expecting their first child? Oh, Lord what is the world coming to... Also, is it true tht in the state of California, the woman is promised half of what her husband has when divorce is final... Oh my ears are burning!!! LOL
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Old 04-28-2003, 10:35 PM
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KOBE and his family life. . .

Estrange Situation
Disappointed with his son's marriage almost two years ago, Joe Bryant is no longer part of Kobe's life, but Laker star hopes that changes

It was a night when a son could have used a father.

Kobe Bryant missed nearly two-thirds of his shots, missed a free throw that could have won the game, failed to save the Lakers in Thursday's playoff loss to the Minnesota Timberwolves.

Somewhere at Staples Center, Joe "Jellybean" Bryant was there.

But he wasn't.

He didn't wave or call out. He didn't visit the locker room. He didn't speak to the son from whom he has been quietly estranged for nearly two years.

"My mom asked me to leave him a ticket, so of course I did," Kobe said, his voice dropping. "But I knew he wouldn't come down and see me. He never does."

The postseason is Bryant's favorite time of year, his spotlight, his moment. Yet the NBA's most spectacular one-on-one player is more alone than anyone would imagine.

Bryant is trying to make history while performing the far more extraordinary feat of surviving family.

His father, a former NBA star who lived with his son during Kobe's early Laker years, has severed contact with Kobe because of his unhappiness over his son's marriage to wife Vanessa.

While declining to offer details of a rift made public by his father, Kobe quietly confirmed this week that Joe is uncomfortable that Vanessa, a Latina, is not African American, and he is uneasy with Bryant's selfless devotion to her.

Said Kobe: "Sure, I miss my father. Who wouldn't miss his father?"

Said Joe: "Once he decided to get married, it's his life now."

Bryant acknowledged that from the moment he became engaged to 18-year-old Vanessa Laine two years ago, it caused a family division that has tested his strength like no defender ever could.

His parents did not come to Kobe and Vanessa's wedding two summers ago. Joe has not seen the couple's new house in Orange County. Joe has never met the couple's first child, his granddaughter Natalia, who was born in January.

When Kobe's Philadelphia-area high school retired his number last season, his parents sat in one section of the bleachers, while Vanessa sat in another section.

Bryant, whose court toughness masks his sweetness and sense of values, stands firmly behind his new family while leaving the door open for his old one.

He has since renewed ties with his mother, Pam. When a Philadelphia magazine asked him to pose in one of his father's old jerseys, he gladly agreed.

His parents have his direct phone number and an open invitation.

Yet his father never calls.

His father hasn't seen him in a championship series since the first one against Indiana. On Thursday night, Joe Bryant attended his first Laker game this season.

"It's not about basketball," Kobe said. "It's about having somebody to go to a ballgame with. It's about having somebody to hang out with. That's what I miss."

Out of respect for his family even as they were snubbing him, Bryant has refused to discuss the issue even as it became the worst-kept secret in Lakerland.

It would have remained private but for a decision by his father to move back to Los Angeles this spring and become a coach in a made-for-television sport called SlamBall.

Publicists for the game, which is essentially basketball on trampolines, sent out a news release promoting Joe Bryant and offering the former eight-year NBA center for interviews.

During a session with The Times earlier this week, in an old warehouse in a cluttered corner of the San Fernando Valley, Joe mentioned Kobe before any questions were even asked.

He bragged about his ability, talked about his maturity, then openly acknowledged the particulars of their estrangement.

"Twenty years from now, when his own child grows up, he'll understand what I'm doing," Joe said.

He would not give specific reasons for the separation.

"When Kobe made a decision to be with someone he cared about, Pam and I decided it was time to back off, that's all it was," he said.

He would not acknowledge any racial animosity toward his daughter-in-law.

"I'm cool with Vanessa, put that on the record," he said.

When asked why he doesn't see his son, he sighed.

"It's his life, we've got nothing to do with it," he said. "We've done our job."

A day after the interview, Joe sent word that he planned to finally meet his grandchild this weekend, although Kobe was unaware of the plans.

Yet, hearing the quotes, hoping that perhaps his father was finally reaching out, Bryant agreed to publicly reach back.

"Sure I hope we can get back together," Kobe said at the Laker practice facility Friday. "When the time is right, if he wants to come and sit down and discuss things, we can do that."

As with any player, particularly a sensitive 24-year-old, Bryant's issues with his father can be seen in everything from his dribble to his glare.

This is a big reason why his focus has increased this season to the point where he is often basketball's most unstoppable player.

"The court has become my psychologist," he said. "It's my time to get away from all the hassles and problems. It's my moment."

And this is why, two years ago after they won their second championship in Philadelphia, he was spotted holding the trophy in the shower and crying.

Everyone thought it was because he was weary after a long year of fighting with Shaquille O'Neal and Phil Jackson.

Not so.

"Yeah, that was about my dad," Bryant said.

Earlier in that postseason, he had gotten married and his family did not attend.

Then, to survive the boos and pressure in your Philadelphia hometown, to win a championship right down the road from your father's house and your father doesn't even come to any of the games?

No failure had ever broken his heart like this triumph.

"It had been such an awful year for me, so hard," Kobe said. "I want a father. I want my father."


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The story begins when Kobe Bryant moved west as a 17-year-old in 1996.

It begins then, because he moved with his family.

When he joined the Lakers out of high school, so did his family, parents Joe and Pam, sisters Sharia and Shaya.

"We weren't just going to let him come out here by himself," said Joe. "That wasn't how we worked."

For three years the family lived together in a house in the Pacific Palisades, with Bryant the ever-doting son, inviting his family to share in his newfound wealth.

"Don't write that he lived with us," Joe acknowledged. "It was his house. We lived with him."

Bryant bought cars for everyone, including a BMW for his father.

When the family decided to let Kobe live by himself, they moved to a nearby lot only a quarter-mile away, and Kobe talked about building a gym between the two homes.

"My family was always there for me, I love them for that," Kobe said.

But he was growing up, and increasingly making his own decisions. And after dating a young woman he had met at a video shoot, he made the decision to marry Vanessa.

That is where the problems started.

"I think a lot of it is just natural," Kobe said. "I'm sure it's tough on any parent when their child grows up and starts stepping into their own."

Like his teammates, his family wondered if he was stepping too quickly into a springtime of 2000 engagement with Laine. He was 21, she was 18. They were married less than a year later.

"As a parent, I'd like him to slow down and smell the roses," Joe said. "But then, I'm a parent."

But, as usual, everyone underestimated Bryant's maturity. By all accounts, he treats marriage as if he wrote the manual.

He supports his wife such that he once rushed home from the road during the playoffs for an overnight visit because she was ill.

He is so supportive, in fact, that many folks figured that Indiana's Reggie Miller must have criticized her when Bryant suddenly and strangely punched Miller in a game last spring.

"Nah," Bryant said with a smile. "Reggie doesn't know anything about this. He was cracking on me, and I was just cracking back."

He protects his wife such that he provides security for her during games and rarely discusses her in public.

He tells his family the same thing, again and again.

"It's right there in the Bible," he said. "When you get married, your mother and father and sisters are no longer the priority. Your wife and daughter are the priority. That's the way it has to be."

He wishes everyone would understand that this is forever.

"I am so happy," he said. "My wife and daughter give me such strength. All this has just brought us closer."

Close enough, he said, to be able to look at his baby daughter and understand what must be done.

"We will prepare her for life, teach her everything we know, give her everything we can," he said. "But when it comes time for her to stand on her own two feet, we will let her do it. We will stand behind her no matter what."

Bill Plaschke can be reached at bill.plaschke@latimes.com.

http://www.latimes.com/la-sp-plaschk...5703598.column
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Old 04-28-2003, 11:09 PM
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Bring out the violins.....

I agree with Pops, though. I have my own issues with interracial relationships/marriage, but I won't go there.....
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Old 04-29-2003, 05:39 AM
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Dang.....that's a deep article. I'm sorry, Joe coulda been as mad as he wanted to be before the wedding, but he just needs to get over it. There is a big difference in "backing off" and lettting his son be a man, and totally distancing yourself from him. He hasn't seen his grandchild?!?!? WTF! Would he prefer that Kobe leave his wife and CHILD? What's done is done. He is wrong as two left shoes as my Godmother would say.
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