Election Day Aftermath

[Love_Spell_6]

Originally posted by ladygreek
According to Carlos Watson it has only been four elections since the presidential candidate got a majority vote. (Because of strong third parties.) Before then it was the norm so it isn't that historical.

Its not like he won with 75 percent of the vote. Now that would be historical. And he is the incumbent. So this should be more like a "whew" we survived this challenge.

ETA: I still believe that whoever wins the popular vote should win the presidency and if that person is W, then so be it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...-2004Nov3.html
"President Bush's decisive margin of victory makes this the first presidential election since 1988 in which the winner received a majority of the popular vote. And in this election, President Bush received more votes than any presidential candidate in our country's history," he said.

You may try to minimize the importance of this since your candidate didn't win..but the historical significance is here nonetheless. The Repubs have the Presidency, the House, and the Senate.. Dubya won this with ALL the media except Fox News against him, the Hollywood ultra liberals, and Michael Mooron campaigning... the 527's ... this man ran a tight campaign...and he deserved the win.

[Steeltrap]

^^
Was that really necessary? Your candidate won. What is it about you that keeps attacking a decent person like LadyGreek? I know this shouldn't be my fight, but it is just rather disturbing.

[Love_Spell_6]

Originally posted by Steeltrap
[B]^^
I know this shouldn't be my fight, /B]

well if ya know that then take heed I think she can handle herself if she feels she's being cyber attacked lol

[CrimsonTide4]

Originally posted by Love_Spell_6
well if ya know that then take heed I think she can handle herself if she feels she's being cyber attacked lol

Love Spell, regardless of what you feel, you will act accordingly HERE!!! Your candidate won this election -- great but you will not sit up here and browbeat folks.

[lil_sunshine]

Originally posted by NinjaPoodle
I'm moving out of the country, seriously.

Where you wanna go? I'll be moving out of the country too. I ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY REFUSE to sit here in the U.S. and have to worry whether I'll be going to Iraq to fight in a war that will not benefit me or any other minority in the country!!!!!!!

[Cali_Keisha]

i am SOOOOOOOOO depressed about Bush winning. I want 2 move out of the country also because there is no way in HELL that I will fight in a war that I don't believe in and and a President that that is not worth 2 cents. Everyone needs to hold on tight and see how much more Bush is going to jack up the USA. I just pray that we don't experience anymore attacks, but with Bush is office I feel that we are all our lives are in danger.

[DELTABRAT]

Originally posted by Cali_Keisha
i am SOOOOOOOOO depressed about Bush winning. I want 2 move out of the country also because there is no way in HELL that I will fight in a war that I don't believe in and and a President that that is not worth 2 cents. Everyone needs to hold on tight and see how much more Bush is going to jack up the USA. I just pray that we don't experience anymore attacks, but with Bush is office I feel that we are all our lives are in danger.

No sh**. I leave for D.C. on Friday morning and am scared crapless. I am also taking my baby so all I can do is pray that I make it to and fro' and then I am sitting my a$$ down somewhere.

[NinjaPoodle]

Originally posted by lil_sunshine
Where you wanna go? I'll be moving out of the country too. I ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY REFUSE to sit here in the U.S. and have to worry whether I'll be going to Iraq to fight in a war that will not benefit me or any other minority in the country!!!!!!!

Someplace where I can blend in, Jamaica sounds nice right now but hurricanes are a bit too much for me. Maybe I can brush up on my Spanish and head on to Brazil. The British Virgin Islands, hmmm....

[lil_sunshine]

I might go to Aruba or the Bahamas or something. A small island destination where I can blend in and work on my tan would be best for me!

[NinjaPoodle]

Well, bush will be out for good in 4 years, so for now that's something to look forward to.

San Francisco Results

Election Results Last Updated: 11/03/2004 10:57am

CALIFORNIA 55 ELECTORAL VOTES - 24039 of 24039 Precincts Reporting
JOHN KERRY 5,427,055 55% (W)
GEORGE W. BUSH 4,403,495 44%
MICHAEL BADNARIK 39,793 0%
DAVID COBB 31,679 0%
LEONARD PELTIER 21,616 0%
MICHAEL PEROUTKA 20,987 0%

PRESIDENT TOTAL POPULAR VOTE - 99 of 100 Precincts Reporting
GEORGE W. BUSH 58,652,434 51% (W)
JOHN KERRY 55,114,091 48%
RALPH NADER 392,317 0%
MICHAEL BADNARIK 374,776 0%
MICHAEL PEROUTKA 129,176 0%
DAVID COBB 104,618 0%
LEONARD PELTIER 21,616 0%
WALTER BROWN 10,258 0%
JAMES HARRIS 6,688 0%
ROGER CALERO 5,263 0%
NONE OF THE ABOVE 3,646 0%
THOMAS HARENS 2,345 0%
BILL VAN AUKEN 2,088 0%
GENE AMONDSON 1,895 0%
JOHN PARKER 1,159 0%
CHARLES JAY 867 0%
ANDY ANDRESS 716 0%
EARL F. DODGE 122 0%

PROPOSITION 1A LOCAL REVENUE PROTECTION - 23899 of 24039 Precincts Reporting
Yes 7,557,441 83% (W)
No 1,493,490 17%

PROPOSITION 59 PUBLIC RECORDS - 23899 of 24039 Precincts Reporting
Yes 7,482,944 83% (W)
No 1,522,494 17%

PROPOSITION 60 PRIMARY ELECTIONS - 23899 of 24039 Precincts Reporting
Yes 5,801,225 67% (W)
No 2,827,181 33%

PROPOSITION 60A SURPLUS PROPERTY - 23899 of 24039 Precincts Reporting
Yes 6,215,681 73% (W)
No 2,324,603 27%

PROPOSITION 61 CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL BONDS - 23899 of 24039 Precincts Reporting
Yes 5,319,238 58%
No 3,842,834 42% (W)

PROPOSITION 62 OPEN PRIMARY - 23899 of 24039 Precincts Reporting
No 4,839,738 54% (W)
Yes 4,074,840 46%

PROPOSITION 63 MENTAL HEALTH TAX - 23899 of 24039 Precincts Reporting
Yes 4,936,948 53% (W)
No 4,319,930 47%

PROPOSITION 64 BUSINESS LAWSUIT REFORM - 23752 of 24039 Precincts Reporting
Yes 5,209,609 59% (W)
No 3,651,625 41%

PROPOSITION 65 LOCAL GOV'T REVENUES - 24039 of 24039 Precincts Reporting
No 5,080,942 53% (W)
Yes 4,440,682 47%

PROPOSITION 66 THREE STRIKES - 23899 of 24039 Precincts Reporting
No 5,081,064 53% (W)
Yes 4,440,800 47%

PROPOSITION 67 EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES - 24039 of 24039 Precincts Reporting
No 7,871,244 84% (W)
Yes 1,535,303 16%

PROPOSITION 68 EXPAND CASINOS - 23899 of 24039 Precincts Reporting
No 7,864,770 84% (W)
Yes 1,533,935 16%

PROPOSITION 69 FELON DNA SAMPLES - 24039 of 24039 Precincts Reporting
No 7,114,708 76% (W)
Yes 2,256,801 24%

PROPOSITION 70 EXCLUSIVE TRIBAL CASINOS - 24039 of 24039 Precincts Reporting
No 7,114,708 76% (W)
Yes 2,256,801 24%

PROPOSITION 71 STEM CELL RESEARCH - 23800 of 24039 Precincts Reporting
Yes 5,616,268 59%
No 3,894,561 41% (W)

PROPOSITION 72 HEALTH CARE COVERAGE - 23899 of 24039 Precincts Reporting
No 4,721,261 51% (W)
Yes 4,558,142 49%

U.S. SENATE CALIFORNIA - 24039 of 24039 Precincts Reporting
BARBARA BOXER 5,599,219 58% (W)
BILL JONES 3,642,281 38%
MARSHA FEINLAND 190,426 2%
JAMES GRAY 171,918 2%
DON GRUNDMANN 64,842 1%

U.S. HOUSE DISTRICT 8 SAN FRANCISCO - 471 of 471 Precincts Reporting
NANCY PELOSI 167,542 85% (W)
JENNIFER DEPALMA 23,366 12%
LEILANI DOWELL 7,063 4%

U.S. HOUSE DISTRICT 9 OAKLAND - 0 of 514 Precincts Reporting
BARBARA LEE 132,726 83% (W)
CLAUDIA BERMUDEZ 21,713 14%
JIM EYER 5,149 3%

STATE SENATE DIST. 3 SAN FRANCISCO - 706 of 706 Precincts Reporting
CAROLE MIGDEN 196,035 68% (W)
ANDREW FELDER 75,107 26%
IAN GRIMES 9,098 3%
DAVID RHODES 7,886 3%


ASSEMBLY DISTRICT 12 SAN FRANCISCO - 287 of 287 Precincts Reporting
LELAND YEE 85,408 77% (W)
HOWARD EPSTEIN 18,898 17%
CHRIS MADEN 6,870 6%

ASSEMBLY DISTRICT 13 SAN FRANCISCO - 0 of 329 Precincts Reporting
MARK LENO 20,727 78%
GAIL NEIRA 4,605 17%
JONATHAN MARVIN 1,118 4%





SAN FRANCISCO 'A' AFFORDABLE HOUSING BONDS (2/3) - 578 of 578 Precincts Reporting
Yes 159,163 65%
No 87,190 35%

SAN FRANCISCO 'B' HISTORICAL PRESERVATION BONDS (2/3) - 578 of 578 Precincts Reporting
Yes 138,456 58%
No 100,815 42%

SAN FRANCISCO 'C' HEALTH SERVICE SYSTEM - 578 of 578 Precincts Reporting
Yes 126,534 57% (W)
No 97,261 43%

SAN FRANCISCO 'D' CHANGES TO CITY CHARTER - 578 of 578 Precincts Reporting
No 123,097 58% (W)
Yes 89,303 42%

SAN FRANCISCO 'E' POLICE & FIRE SURVIVOR BENEFITS - 578 of 578 Precincts Reporting
Yes 158,704 66% (W)
No 81,709 34%

SAN FRANCISCO 'F' NONCITIZENS VOTE IN SCHOOL ELECTIONS - 578 of 578 Precincts Reporting
No 124,321 51% (W)
Yes 117,588 49%

SAN FRANCISCO 'G' HEALTH PLANS FOR CITY RESIDENTS - 578 of 578 Precincts Reporting
Yes 152,750 67% (W)
No 75,550 33%

SAN FRANCISCO 'H' NAMING CANDLESTICK PARK - 578 of 578 Precincts Reporting
Yes 129,054 55% (W)
No 106,829 45%

SAN FRANCISCO 'I' ECONOMIC ANALYSIS OF LEGISLATION - 578 of 578 Precincts Reporting
Yes 116,210 52% (W)
No 107,686 48%

SAN FRANCISCO 'J' SALES TAX INCREASE - 578 of 578 Precincts Reporting
No 136,836 58% (W)
Yes 100,036 42%

SAN FRANCISCO 'K' BUSINESS TAX - 578 of 578 Precincts Reporting
No 122,562 54% (W)
Yes 102,515 46%

SAN FRANCISCO 'L' HOTEL TAX TO SAVE THEATER (2/3) - 578 of 578 Precincts Reporting
No 172,916 75%
Yes 59,077 25%

SAN FRANCISCO 'N' WITHDRAW U.S. TROOPS FROM IRAQ - 578 of 578 Precincts Reporting
Yes 147,533 63% (W)
No 85,207 37%

SAN FRANCISCO 'O' USE OF SALES TAX FUNDS - 578 of 578 Precincts Reporting
Yes 137,624 60% (W)
No 91,899 40%

MEASURE 'AA' (3-COUNTY TOTAL) BART SEISMIC SAFETY BOND (2/3) - 2640 of 2640 Precincts Reporting
Yes 274,785 69% (W)
No 120,613 31%

SF SUPERVISOR DISTRICT 1 - 49 of 100 Precincts Reporting
JAKE MCGOLDRICK 8,887 42% (W)
LILLIAN SING 6,265 30%
MATT TUCHOW 2,129 10%
DAVID HELLER 1,528 7%
ROSE TSAI 1,127 5%
LEANNA DAWYDIAK 1,053 5%
JEFFREY FREEBAIRN 96 0%

SF SUPERVISOR DISTRICT 2 - 100 of 100 Precincts Reporting
MICHELA ALIOTO-PIER 15,477 61% (W)
STEVE BRACCINI 4,240 17%
DAVID PASCAL 3,184 13%
ROGER SCHULKE 1,499 6%
JAY SHAH 1,020 4%

SF SUPERVISOR DISTRICT 3 - 45 of 100 Precincts Reporting
AARON PESKIN 11,711 62% (W)
BRIAN O'FLYNN 3,418 18%
EUGENE WONG 2,475 13%
SAL BUSALACCHI 1,152 6%

SF SUPERVISOR DISTRICT 5 - 100 of 100 Precincts Reporting
ROSS MIRKARIMI 7,786 29% (W)
ROBERT HAALAND 4,011 15%
LISA FELDSTEIN 2,502 9%
NICK WAUGH 2,418 9%
ANDREW SULLIVAN 1,948 7%
BILL BARNES 1,259 5%
JIM SIEGEL 1,137 4%
DAN KALB 1,104 4%
SUSAN KING 722 3%
MICHAEL O'CONNOR 690 3%
BRETT WHEELER 613 2%
JOSEPH BLUE 601 2%
TYS SNIFFEN 553 2%
PHOENIX STREETS 480 2%
JULIAN DAVIS 326 1%
EMMETT GILMAN 298 1%
FRANCIS SOMSEL 265 1%
ROB ANDERSON 247 1%
VIVIAN WILDER 99 0%
PATRICK CIOCCA 70 0%
PHILLIP HOUSE 48 0%
H. BROWN 40 0%

SF SUPERVISOR DISTRICT 7 - 59 of 100 Precincts Reporting
SEAN ELSBERND 7,505 32% (W)
CHRISTINE LINNENBACH 5,143 22%
GREGORY CORRALES 1,927 8%
ISAAC WANG 1,843 8%
MILTON O'BRIEN 1,780 8%
VERNON GRIGG, III 1,546 7%
SHAWN REIFSTECK 814 4%
MICHAEL MALLEN 766 3%
PAT LAKEY 575 2%
SVETLANA KAFF 423 2%
ARSENIO BELENSON 382 2%
DAVID PARKER 260 1%
SHEELA KINI 249 1%

SF SUPERVISOR DISTRICT 9 - 100 of 100 Precincts Reporting
TOM AMMIANO 9,666 50% (W)
RENEE SAUCEDO 4,204 22%
MIGUEL BUSTOS 3,451 18%
LUCRECIA BERMUDEZ 796 4%
STEVE ZELTZER 643 3%
JAMES PEREZ 452 2%

SF SUPERVISOR DISTRICT 11 - 1 of 100 Precincts Reporting
GERARDO SANDOVAL 5,769 33% (W)
MYRNA LIM 3,203 18%
JOSE MEDINA 2,235 13%
ANITA GRIER 2,025 11%
ROLANDO BONILLA 1,846 10%
REBECCA SILVERBERG 1,426 8%
TOM YUEN 889 5%
FIL SILVERIO 234 1%

[ladygreek]

Originally posted by Love_Spell_6
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...-2004Nov3.html
"President Bush's decisive margin of victory makes this the first presidential election since 1988 in which the winner received a majority of the popular vote. And in this election, President Bush received more votes than any presidential candidate in our country's history," he said.

You may try to minimize the importance of this since your candidate didn't win..but the historical significance is here nonetheless. The Repubs have the Presidency, the House, and the Senate.. Dubya won this with ALL the media except Fox News against him, the Hollywood ultra liberals, and Michael Mooron campaigning... the 527's ... this man ran a tight campaign...and he deserved the win.

Four elections = 16 years = 1988. Isn't that what I said? So why is it so historical? It was basically a two-party race, unlike some of the more recent races that had stronger third parties, thus of course someone would get the majority. AND this has been the largest voter turnout since 1968 and the population has increased, so what is the significance of it being historical?

For example, every year we say our sorority national conventions are the biggest in history. Well that is because our membership grows every year, so you would expect them to get bigger evey year. So being historical means nothing in that context.

And btw, Kerry got the second largest number of votes of any presidential candidate in our country's history.

[Love_Spell_6]

Originally posted by CrimsonTide4
Love Spell, regardless of what you feel, you will act accordingly HERE!!! Your candidate won this election -- great but you will not sit up here and browbeat folks.

act accordingly?? LOL yessum madame moderator...

funny how debating turns into browbeating in this forum...

whateva..

[Steeltrap]

Not browbeating. Just civility, unlike other parts of GC.

[Love_Spell_6]

Originally posted by ladygreek
Four elections = 16 years = 1988. Isn't that what I said? So why is it so historical? It was basically a two-party race, unlike some of the more recent races that had stronger third parties, thus of course someone would get the majority. AND this has been the largest voter turnout since 1968 and the population has increased, so what is the significance of it being historical?

For example, every year we say our sorority national conventions are the biggest in history. Well that is because our membership grows every year, so you would expect them to get bigger evey year. So being historical means nothing in that context.

And btw, Kerry got the second largest number of votes of any presidential candidate in our country's history.

well i guess its /historical/important depending on what candidate you're supporting. The fact that he received more votes than any other President in HISTORY is significant...but again..i guess if you didn't vote for him one could care less LOL

And yes you're right about Kerry..he got the SECOND largest number of votes.

I do however agree with whoever wins the popular vote should win. The electoral college is outdated....but maybe everyone should stop complaining about it..and DO something about it..myself included.. I think it will take a constitutional amendment..

[LovetoTravel]

I'm going to spend the next several days praying for our country. The majority has spoken and have decided that they would like to continue along this ungodly path we have been on for the past four years. Yes, I did say ungodly. Despite all this talk about Bush's Christianity and "values", his actions have shown he is not a Christian and is morally bankrupt. I will pray for all the brave servicemen and women in Iraq. There is no need for them to be there. I will be praying for my 18 year old son and all the young people in our country. I'm quite sure the next step for Bush and his cronies will be to reinstate the draft. What have they got to lose? They don't have to worry about running for office again.

I love this country and would not want to live anywhere else in
the world. I have faith that the next election will be different. By that time the deficits should be doubled and more people out of work and without medical insurance. Maybe then folx will wake up.