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[AXJules]

Originally posted by chideltjen
[small voice] I like "poppy" trance. [/small voice]

And now I am really confused by all this. I am no expert by any means and this conversation is enlightening but I am lost. I lump basically everything into the category of "Trance" even though I know breakbeats, D&B, etc are not trance at all. And I am into the mainstream artists... because that's all I really know about. Basically I can't stand drum-machine like beats that make my eardrums want to storm out of my ear.

I guess I stay to more of the vocal trance and ambient side of trance/techno/electronica/whatever. Yes... I like the stuff that may put you to sleep. And I like mainstream artists as well. So make fun of me all you want I like BT, Oakenfold, Tiesto, 4 Strings, and PVD, but also enjoy Rank 1, Underworld, and a few others I can't think of now. I don't know what these are all classified as but that's what you'll find in my CD collection.

So yee haw, I'm trendy and not afraid to admit it.

You like what you like, you know? Some people listen to electronica to sleep to, some for dancing. My fave dj's will always be house dj's from Chicago. Most of their stuff sounds extremely dated now but I really don't care because its better to dance to than anything I've heard

[Rudey]

It's a problem when someone stops innovating or doing something new and then it all sounds the same.

Don't listen to axjules because he lez'd out with dj psycho bitch like 10 times and is thinking with her heart and not her head.

-Rudey

Originally posted by chideltjen
[small voice] I like "poppy" trance. [/small voice]

And now I am really confused by all this. I am no expert by any means and this conversation is enlightening but I am lost. I lump basically everything into the category of "Trance" even though I know breakbeats, D&B, etc are not trance at all. And I am into the mainstream artists... because that's all I really know about. Basically I can't stand drum-machine like beats that make my eardrums want to storm out of my ear.

I guess I stay to more of the vocal trance and ambient side of trance/techno/electronica/whatever. Yes... I like the stuff that may put you to sleep. And I like mainstream artists as well. So make fun of me all you want I like BT, Oakenfold, Tiesto, 4 Strings, and PVD, but also enjoy Rank 1, Underworld, and a few others I can't think of now. I don't know what these are all classified as but that's what you'll find in my CD collection.

So yee haw, I'm trendy and not afraid to admit it.

[cashmoney]

Originally posted by crzychx
Not really. Especially not Florida breakbeats.

I don't think people realize how much break beats really plays apart in American pop music. Brittney Spears, Timberlake, Madonna, Janet Jackson and even Linkin Park have all had break beat mixes in their music. There are many more people who have it in their music but those are the ones right off the top of my head. And where did breaks orignate?? Floooooooorida. Florida is the only place where you'll find this type of music coming from. And it's everywhere, you just don't realize it. There is another genre that comes from California, west coast breaks. Go buy a Simply Jeff cd and you'll know exactly what it sounds like. Yet, it's really just a knock off of Florida Breaks. Example: Simply Jeff has a song on one of his CDs called "Feel My Energy". The song was put out in like 96 but still blows a crowd up. The track was actually written by a close friend of mine who lived in G-ville when he made it and who's on the juice record label....his name is Mike B. If you're ever in Atlanta he now lives there and has a residency at the Velvet Room. My point is, Mike made the track while living in Gainseville...its total Florida Cheese and yet Simply Jeff's label put it on one of his CDs (I believe its the blue one).


Don't trash the cheese if you can't feel the funk, playa.

[cashmoney]

Originally posted by crzychx
Florida is where the real shit is? Wow, you better inform the rest of the United States because no one knows that but you!

And two-step may have originated from speed garage but it is very much its own genre of music, that sounds nothing like speed garage. Also, the hardcore I speak of is like happy hardcore without the happy-no form of speed garage whatsoever.

Inform the rest of the United States? Girly, have you ever heard of the Winter Music Conference? Or the Ultra Music Festival? Both are known globally. Shit, even P-diddy, the Hilton sisters, Timberlake and Usher come to these events....which are held in Miami. There's a reason why both festivals originated in Florida and have been running strong for 6 years...and it aint because we have nice weather. The festivals draw the worlds most talented artists and has surpassed even the Homelands and Creamfield parties of legend.

[_Lisa_]

Originally posted by cashmoney
Inform the rest of the United States? Girly, have you ever heard of the Winter Music Conference? Or the Ultra Music Festival? Both are known globally. Shit, even P-diddy, the Hilton sisters, Timberlake and Usher come to these events....which are held in Miami. There's a reason why both festivals originated in Florida and have been running strong for 6 years...and it aint because we have nice weather. The festivals draw the worlds most talented artists and has surpassed even the Homelands and Creamfield parties of legend.

Of course I've heard of the Winter Music Conference. My best friend played there this past year (Trevor Lamont, see previous link for web site.)

And have I heard of that big drug fest/rave called Ultra? Of course I have! Every crackhead I know dreams of attending every year! And trust me, its because you have nice weather and drugs. I know its sad but its true, Ultra is a crackfest. And since they essentially happen at the same time it would be an easy choice for which one I'd attend-WMC!

And about my previous statement-all the people I personally know (that are just as knowledgeable about music as you or me) would say that the real shit is from Chicago! I guess its just a difference in opinions!

[_Lisa_]

Originally posted by cashmoney
I don't think people realize how much break beats really plays apart in American pop music. Brittney Spears, Timberlake, Madonna, Janet Jackson and even Linkin Park have all had break beat mixes in their music. There are many more people who have it in their music but those are the ones right off the top of my head. And where did breaks orignate?? Floooooooorida. Florida is the only place where you'll find this type of music coming from. And it's everywhere, you just don't realize it. There is another genre that comes from California, west coast breaks. Go buy a Simply Jeff cd and you'll know exactly what it sounds like. Yet, it's really just a knock off of Florida Breaks. Example: Simply Jeff has a song on one of his CDs called "Feel My Energy". The song was put out in like 96 but still blows a crowd up. The track was actually written by a close friend of mine who lived in G-ville when he made it and who's on the juice record label....his name is Mike B. If you're ever in Atlanta he now lives there and has a residency at the Velvet Room. My point is, Mike made the track while living in Gainseville...its total Florida Cheese and yet Simply Jeff's label put it on one of his CDs (I believe its the blue one).


Don't trash the cheese if you can't feel the funk, playa.

I definitely understand what you are saying but that music just really doesn't appeal to me. (Florida) breakbeats really isn't my thing and especially since its become more mainstream in the music of the popstars of today. Give me some Terry Mullan any day and I'll be much happier!

[AXJules]

Originally posted by Rudey

Don't listen to axjules because she lez'd out with dj psycho bitch like 10 times and is thinking with her heart and not her head.

-Rudey

I just threw up a little.

[cashmoney]

Originally posted by crzychx
I definitely understand what you are saying but that music just really doesn't appeal to me. (Florida) breakbeats really isn't my thing and especially since its become more mainstream in the music of the popstars of today. Give me some Terry Mullan any day and I'll be much happier!

Hey, I love me some Terry Mullan too!

[cashmoney]

Originally posted by crzychx
Of course I've heard of the Winter Music Conference. My best friend played there this past year (Trevor Lamont, see previous link for web site.)

And have I heard of that big drug fest/rave called Ultra? Of course I have! Every crackhead I know dreams of attending every year! And trust me, its because you have nice weather and drugs. I know its sad but its true, Ultra is a crackfest. And since they essentially happen at the same time it would be an easy choice for which one I'd attend-WMC!

And about my previous statement-all the people I personally know (that are just as knowledgeable about music as you or me) would say that the real shit is from Chicago! I guess its just a difference in opinions!

lmao!! Ultra just isnt for crackheads. There are many people who go there that arent on drugs....just as there are people who do drugs. If you want a crack fest...have you ever been to one of the Zen Festivals? I think you call Ultra a crackfest because you probably dont remember much from when you were there and all cracked out.


As for Chicago...I put it like this. Chicago invented EDM, it was made globally known in the UK and Germany and then perfected in Florida.

[_Lisa_]

Originally posted by cashmoney
lmao!! Ultra just isnt for crackheads. There are many people who go there that arent on drugs....just as there are people who do drugs. If you want a crack fest...have you ever been to one of the Zen Festivals? I think you call Ultra a crackfest because you probably dont remember much from when you were there and all cracked out.

I don't know you but I'm glad that I got the feeling you were joking right there. Never been to Ultra and nor do I ever plan on going! If I'm going to be in FL at the same time as Ultra I will be at WMC!

[cashmoney]

Originally posted by crzychx
I don't know you but I'm glad that I got the feeling you were joking right there. Never been to Ultra and nor do I ever plan on going! If I'm going to be in FL at the same time as Ultra I will be at WMC!

I was joking...take it as that. Lets just make clear, for the other people on this board, that we don't literally mean crack smoking junkies when we say crackheads. We mean people rollin, G'd up, high or on coke all weekend. But yea, I do agree with you....I'd much rather be at the Winter Music Conference than Ultra. When I was 18,19,20 yrs old Ultra was fine because it wasnt on as much of a massive scale...there's just too many damn ravers there for me these days unless I'm DJing at the event. When I first went it was just one big party on SoBe and now it's got over 60,000 people attending and is in Downtown Miami.

BTW, don't act like you didnt go through your little count crackula stage. Almost everyone does.

[cashmoney]

Originally posted by Rudey
Don't listen to axjules because he lez'd out with dj psycho bitch like 10 times and is thinking with her heart and not her head.

-Rudey

Hahahahaha.

[cashmoney]

Originally posted by chideltjen
[small voice] I like "poppy" trance. [/small voice]

I guess I stay to more of the vocal trance and ambient side of trance/techno/electronica/whatever. Yes... I like the stuff that may put you to sleep. And I like mainstream artists as well. So make fun of me all you want I like BT, Oakenfold, Tiesto, 4 Strings, and PVD, but also enjoy Rank 1, Underworld, and a few others I can't think of now. I don't know what these are all classified as but that's what you'll find in my CD collection.

So yee haw, I'm trendy and not afraid to admit it.

You're my girl Jenn, you're my girl.

[_Lisa_]

Originally posted by cashmoney
BTW, don't act like you didnt go through your little count crackula stage. Almost everyone does.

Thats why I didn't mention it @ all. But just so you know, I've never been into multi-day parties. Really...never!