This is gonna sound so stupid... but I'm worried...

[greencat]

Originally posted by cherrycola
This is probably going to sound very offensive to the orginal poster.
You need to get a life. constantly judging people by something so arbitary as looks is only going to give you superfiscal friends. You really need to consider judging people based on things such as personality, liked interest, etc.
Now I will admit to being somewhat self consious at times, but I don't chose friends based on looks. Of course I think all my friends are beautiful, and you may not agree.
How can you expect women to ever really gain equal footing with men in the "real world" if we always hold our selfs to such unrealistic views of perfection.
sorry I just get really pissed that women constantly feel the need to judge ourselves and teach younger women these same values!!
I am done ranting.

And I guess you were the picture of composure going through rush, knowing that the first impression your 18-20 year old potential sisters saw was the warm, fuzzy person you are inside, and not the scared, insecure college freshman who is far from home and trying to fit in? Wow. wish I was you.

why do some of you feel the need to attack potential members on this board? did you ever stop to think that they came here to ask a question that they feel is legit? it may come off pompous to you "seasoned" vets, or completely uninformed, but uh... I think that is why they "googled" this web site in the first place. and it really makes them feel positive about the Greek system when someone jumps all over them for phrasing a question wrong. not everyone is hip to "Greek Speak." Why? Because contrary to popular belief, there are other things to do in life than pledge.

[decadence]

Originally posted by cherrycola:
This is probably going to sound very offensive to the orginal poster. You need to get a life.

Co-signing to the general sentiment that actually, it sounds offensive to more people than just the original poster. \hijack

[Tom Earp]

Cool, cat fight!

Questions are asked to be answered. Not totally critizised.



Ah A stranger coming to The Shores of America is worried as hell.
A young Femaile who is coming here as a college student I am sure has trepidations.

If I was coming from a Different country after reading some of these posts, I am sure I would want to come!

If you want to find the flip side of the coin, find sigmachiguys post on being in England, a foreign country for him! Paleeze!

Oh, ask navane, find her on Alum Thread!

[FSUZeta]

whatever you do, please don't base your opinion of u.s. sororities on movie-versions. that would be like basing your outlook of how america really is on your visit to disney world!

each national panhellenic sorority and nphc sorority has a national website. if you don't know the names of all the sororities, you can go to the national panhellenic website-it lists the sororities, and will list their websites. you will be able to find out general information about all the national organizations, i.e., when they were founded, where they wre founded, their history, their traditions, where they have current chapters, what their philanthrophy is, etc. if you have not already done so, you might visit the usc website and find the greek council or panhellenic site and check out the sororities on your campus.

most sororities have programs that members attend on studying and making good grades, healthy lifestyles and the like. being in a sorority is no more likely to drive you to bulemia than being a brunette would, and because of the above mentioned programs, a sister would more likely notice if another sister was suffering from such a disorder.

most chapter members are friendly with and supportive of their chapter sisters. while you may not become fast friends with everyone within the chapter, you will have the opportunity to make some wonderful friendships that will last a lifetime.

[cherrycola]

I knew it would probably offend some people, sorry if it hurt your feelings. i just get so tired of young women being pushed into thinking they should be defined by how they look. just before logging on I read in Marie Clare that Brittany Spears thinks she needs to lose 10 llbs. honestly I think she could probably used to gain some weight, but regardless she is absolutely beautiful.
i worry about how I look to, but I don't want to pass that on to anyone and I don't want to define myself by it.
I actually am usually we composed... thanks to my parents constant assurance growing up.

[James]

If you need a good reference book, buy the book Pledged: Secret Lives of Sororities, it will give you an insight into what sorority life is like at a large Greek Campus.

[starang21]

Originally posted by XOMichelle
You are crazy, and so are we for doing it!

It doesn't happen all the time, but it makes you feel 20 time better to have someone pay attention to you and give you a compliment then for you to go totally unnoticed. Perhaps it is because sex is such an important part of a good realtionship, perhaps it is the whole media blitz thing, but it does happen! Of course, I will be the first person to say that women shouldn't do this, and I try hard not to, but who am I kidding? I feel much better about myself when I know I look good.

i hear what you're saying. but i guess it's wild to me that a woman would base how she views herself on how attractive she is to men.

[sororitygirl2]

Originally posted by James
On every campus there is a chapter that is less attractive, join them. That way you will stand out and get more of the better looking guys.

Joining the "hot" sorority challenges girls to be all that they can be though!

No, really - I would not worry about whether you will feel as if you are in constant competition in a sorority. Of course you will be at times, you are a woman and we thrive on it. However, bonds between woman have their good and bad side, and the good I experienced (and continue to experience) from my collegiate sorority days FAR outweigh the bad.

The alums. always told us to stick with it and not to deactivate, because once you graduate, you only remember the good. It's so true... I look back on my days in the house with a smile.

Good luck!

[AGDee]

Originally posted by starang21
i hear what you're saying. but i guess it's wild to me that a woman would base how she views herself on how attractive she is to men.

Society judges women on their appearance more than on anything else. Read a Sopranos bulletin board where more than half the men talk about how fat Jamie Lynn Discala's butt is! The girl is absolutely gorgeous, healthy, with shapely hips (child bearing hips is what my ex husband would call them). Ever walk past an all men's dorm as a young woman on a college campus? They hoot, holler, scream out numbers rating you. (this was my experience in the 80's anyway.. given the more open sexuality of today, I suspect it's the same, or worse). You hear your boyfriend's/husband's friends constantly rating women on their appearance on TV, at bowling alleys, everywhere! You hear them rip on the new girlfriend of one their buddies because she's a little heavy, or not Angelina Jolie beautiful, while they are balding with beer bellies. And, because of the insecurities that women have about their appearances, they also judge each other harshly, hoping that by pointing out other's flaws, theirs will be less noticeable (comments about women who shouldn't be in bikinis, low riders, etc). It starts with Barbies (or Bratz these days.. which I refer to as Hoochie Momma Barbies) and, for most women, ends with self acceptance (few women reach this during adolescent or college though). For some, it never ends.

Dee

[starang21]

Originally posted by AGDee
Society judges women on their appearance more than on anything else. Read a Sopranos bulletin board where more than half the men talk about how fat Jamie Lynn Discala's butt is! The girl is absolutely gorgeous, healthy, with shapely hips (child bearing hips is what my ex husband would call them). Ever walk past an all men's dorm as a young woman on a college campus? They hoot, holler, scream out numbers rating you. (this was my experience in the 80's anyway.. given the more open sexuality of today, I suspect it's the same, or worse). You hear your boyfriend's/husband's friends constantly rating women on their appearance on TV, at bowling alleys, everywhere! You hear them rip on the new girlfriend of one their buddies because she's a little heavy, or not Angelina Jolie beautiful, while they are balding with beer bellies. And, because of the insecurities that women have about their appearances, they also judge each other harshly, hoping that by pointing out other's flaws, theirs will be less noticeable (comments about women who shouldn't be in bikinis, low riders, etc). It starts with Barbies (or Bratz these days.. which I refer to as Hoochie Momma Barbies) and, for most women, ends with self acceptance (few women reach this during adolescent or college though). For some, it never ends.

Dee

i guess, i've dealt with those women who were highly insecure and needed reaffirmation. it wasn't for me. lately, the women i've dealt with have been of very high confidence and i'm more accustomed to that. give me a confident, strong woman and i'm cool.

[starburst21]

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[sugar and spice]

Originally posted by starang21
i guess, i've dealt with those women who were highly insecure and needed reaffirmation. it wasn't for me.

I'm sure hearing guys say stuff like this all the time makes the insecure women feel even better about themselves too.

I get what you're saying -- people who need constant reaffirmation are annoying -- but basically, it is really tough to be a woman because not only are we judged primarily on our looks, but we're judged again if we show that we're insecure about any of the things that we perceive to be wrong with us.



As for Bratz, try http://www.bratzpack.com

Personally I think "hoochie mama Barbies" is too nice of a description . . . has anybody seen Love Actually, where the mom says, "Okay, should we give her the doll that looks like a dominatrix or the one that looks like the transvestite?" That's what I think of when I think of Bratz.

[phimuandfries]

Originally posted by AGDee
It starts with Barbies (or Bratz these days.. which I refer to as Hoochie Momma Barbies)

i like the Bratz dolls... unlike Barbies they are not busty,small waisted,long legged freaks... and the creator of the Bratz dolls made them so that the blonde one would not be the "star" like how Barbie is, and he tried to give them all sorts of hair colors and complexions so that little girls would not feel like there was only one ideal to look up to... but their clothes are a little out there ... my little sister got all things Bratz for Christmas, and I must say they are quite fun

[James]

Off topic, but how do you even play with dolls? Like what can you do with them but pose them?

Men have action figures (dolls) but we usually wage war with them and rough them up.

I can't imagine posing them and I guess just supplying dialogue.

Originally posted by phimuandfries
i like the Bratz dolls... unlike Barbies they are not busty,small waisted,long legged freaks... and the creator of the Bratz dolls made them so that the blonde one would not be the "star" like how Barbie is, and he tried to give them all sorts of hair colors and complexions so that little girls would not feel like there was only one ideal to look up to... but their clothes are a little out there ... my little sister got all things Bratz for Christmas, and I must say they are quite fun

[H0neymoon]

Shall I tell you why, James? Because us girls have a little something called imagination and creativity! xxx