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Old 01-22-2004, 02:14 PM
justamom justamom is offline
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Who cares really if you think about it...most of your jobs are going to be shipped overseas anyway.

-Rudey
...and those that are left will go to the newly LEGAL immigrants.

I feel a lot of the barriers have come down only to see new ones go up. If everyone took a long look, you would see that the real discrimination is based on looks, and what people deem attractive. This covers age, weight, facial features-an overall composite of what we have been TOLD is attractive. It doesn't matter what color you are-if you aren't attractive-you are penalized.
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Old 01-22-2004, 02:37 PM
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...and those that are left will go to the newly LEGAL immigrants.
That's funny, all of the immigrants that have come into New York City over the last 30 years, have brought economic vibrancy to the city, rather than subplanting existing jobs. So many of these people from Costa Rica, Jamaica, Nigeria, Russia, and well over a hundred other nations, have brought an entrepreneurial spirit that has created many new businesses. Including businesses that deal in international trade.

The economic wealth of a nation is roughly equal to the quantity of its people times the quality (economic) of its people. Thats why nations with little natural resources, like Japan, are wealthy. I say, bring these people in. We are jockeying for position on the international stage of the future, and we need all of the people that we can get. Especially from those from areas where we have not had a strong trading relationship. That ties into the color thing, a little bit anyway. We need people from Sub-Saharan Africa, and from Central Asia, and South Asia, and so on.

Whether you realize it or not, the Russian immigrants in the US have helped to foster a level of trade, between the US and Russia, that is helping both nations to move past the Cold War. The Nigerian immigrants offer the best chance, from a US perspective, to help integrate Nigeria into a mutually beneficial international trade relationship.

The US is so wondeful because, more than any other nation, our culture is adaptive. This gives us a real economic advantage, and its why the current internationmal hegemonic structure is centered around the US (i.e. the TriLateral Commission.)

We need more imigrants, and from a more diverse array of nations. If we are too "white" and if we have too few people, America will beging to fall behind others.
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Old 01-22-2004, 02:48 PM
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Seriously, I don't even think about it.
Well, of course you wouldn't have to think about it. You're a white man in America. That's part of white privilege, dear suh.

Also, can you please make a point without mentioning how you're so much older and experienced? My parents don't mention that all the time--they're secure enough in their age and wisdom they don't need to.
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Old 01-22-2004, 03:18 PM
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When I hear "reverse discrimination", I hear the whines of spoiled white kids who for the first time in their lives didn't get what they wanted. Get over it. In life you don't always get what you want, and your skin is not always the reason. Maybe they didn't like the way you spoke, or carried yourself. Or, perhaps the other candidates had better credentials. Or, perhaps, the person who got the job was just like you - what then???????
Couldn't this then be applied to non-whites who didn't get what they want? The next time somebody complains to me that I'm being racist, should I call them a spoiled <insert color> kid who didn't get what they wanted?
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Old 01-22-2004, 03:34 PM
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You guys, can we get off the reverse discrimination topic? We've discussed it before and we've said all of this stuff before and, well, there are more interesting things to talk about.

Yes, reverse discrimination happens. Regular discrimination happens a lot more, so if you're keeping score you're probably benefitting a lot more than you lose out. So let go and move on.



So anyway, white skin privilege?
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Old 01-22-2004, 03:47 PM
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thanks sugar and spice
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Old 01-22-2004, 04:05 PM
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Here is a link to an article about white privilege courtesy of the prejudism thread.
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Old 01-22-2004, 04:13 PM
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Also, can you please make a point without mentioning how you're so much older and experienced? My parents don't mention that all the time--they're secure enough in their age and wisdom they don't need to.
Now, now, let's be nice...unfortunately, I've found that experience does tend to come with age.

Back to the topic...I haven't had any personal experiences or known anyone who has, but I do know that historically society has tended to favor lighter-skinned persons. Even though now everyone wants to be tan because pale is considered yucky, I'm sure there's still the white skin privilege...it just depends on the situation. There's all kinds of discrimination, as many people have said.
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Old 01-22-2004, 05:08 PM
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Well, it's like this. I don't consider myself to be particularly bright in relation to some on this board, so age and experience are all that I have to offer as proof of what I think.
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Old 01-22-2004, 05:12 PM
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Well, it's like this. I don't consider myself to be particularly bright in relation to some on this board, so age and experience are all that I have to offer as proof of what I think.
I don't think you need to stop talking about your age. She keeps talking about her neighborhood in Florida, etc. etc. I talk about how I'm a super genius. Everyone has one thing they think describes them.

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Old 01-22-2004, 05:15 PM
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Well, it's like this. I don't consider myself to be particularly bright in relation to some on this board, so age and experience are all that I have to offer as proof of what I think.
Sometimes it's difficult for people to understand that just because it's written in a book or a newspaper, it doesn't always translate to absolute truth. Anything written is subject to the opinions of the author. Life experiences often tell another story.
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Old 01-22-2004, 05:18 PM
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--Have fun with it.
That's the point.

Are we into age discrimination now? Just Kidding.
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Old 01-22-2004, 05:39 PM
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Well, it's like this. I don't consider myself to be particularly bright in relation to some on this board, so age and experience are all that I have to offer as proof of what I think.
You seem bright to me.

If Rudey is a super genius, then you are at least a genius. It's all relative. Now you should share with us your memories of the Beatles in the overrated thread.
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Old 01-22-2004, 07:54 PM
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Re: Re: Re: huh?

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It's about people who are racially classified as White and/or have more Eurocentric features, such as lighter skin, straighter hair, etc. etc. having inherent advantages and privileges in our society that others do not. My apologies for not specifying.

Where do education standards and marketable skills factor into the equation?


In the US, Asians have the highest per capita income. They also have the highest percentage of 2 parent households and the highest educations levels. Is their per capita income a result of their skin, hair or Eurocentric features or is it becuase they have the highest education standards?
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Old 01-22-2004, 10:13 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: huh?

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Where do education standards and marketable skills factor into the equation?


In the US, Asians have the highest per capita income. They also have the highest percentage of 2 parent households and the highest educations levels. Is their per capita income a result of their skin, hair or Eurocentric features or is it becuase they have the highest education standards?
I've heard that Asians have higher average incomes because in more traditional famlies, teens who work don't make money for themselves, but to contribute to the household income. A family of four, with two high school aged kids may have 3 incomes (high school kids working part time). I don't know anyone who had to do that, growing up, however. Also, Asians who do make more money tend to be in the health or technical fields, which can give pretty decent incomes, even at lower levels.
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