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Old 07-15-2003, 11:55 AM
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Yes you are if you are wanting to use Sigma Kappa's history! It's not yours!

I am not tryin to discourage you from starting a sorority. Just listen to what at least one person said on every single one of your threads... choose letters that mean something to you and not because you admire their organization!
We are not using SK's history!!!!!
I stated that everything SKEPi has- hisotry, etc.. IS THAT OF OUR OWN

I don't know what sorority has their colors being green and white.

Let us get feet off the ground instead of knocking a Sister down.
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Old 07-15-2003, 11:56 AM
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We are not using SK's history!!!!!
I stated that everything SKEPi has- hisotry, etc.. IS THAT OF OUR OWN

I don't know what sorority has their colors being green and white.

Let us get feet off the ground instead of knocking a Sister down.
We are not taking SK's history
colors, mascots.. etc

All my school is doing is trying to see how that stuff is regulated, etc..
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Old 07-15-2003, 12:07 PM
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I like what Sigma Kappa stands for, etc and represents. Our history may be taken off of Sigma,....
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if I use SK's or Mount Ida's history... or how that is detemined
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Point made. No one is knocking a sister down... think of it as tryin to help you so you don't piss off any more people!
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Old 07-15-2003, 12:18 PM
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I don't know what sorority has their colors being green and white.
Kappa Delta, Alpha Sigma Tau and Alpha Epsilon Phi, for starters...also a local on my campus called Zeta Beta Chi...

And why are you posting in the Sigma Kappa forum if you don't want to start a Sigma Kappa colony?

edited because I forgot the lovely ladies of AST

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Old 07-15-2003, 12:24 PM
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Kappa Delta and Alpha Epsilon Phi, for starters...also a local on my campus called Zeta Beta Chi...

And why are you posting in the Sigma Kappa forum if you don't want to start a Sigma Kappa colony?
Oh my god people..

I am staring a social women's club in hopes of turning the social women's club into a sorority in the future.
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Old 07-15-2003, 12:25 PM
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Oh my god people..

I am staring a social women's club in hopes of turning the social women's club into a sorority in the future.
So that would belong in a general forum, not the one for SIGMA KAPPA SORORITY.
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Old 07-15-2003, 12:26 PM
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You keep repeating yourself, but then contradicting yourself. Are you legit? Or are you the ...... <enter mysterious music>.......a V just tryin to mess with us?
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Old 07-15-2003, 12:27 PM
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cristina,

Please don't get discouraged. People are only questioning you in hope to understand better. We have serial helpers here on gc. It is what we live for. It is understandable that without a greek life at your school, and MTV's sorority life as an example, you might not understand how greek letter organizations work, especially pertaining to national groups. But you found the best place for information, anywhere! Just keeping reading the threads, it will all come together.

Still wishing you luck,
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Old 07-15-2003, 12:53 PM
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cristina,

Please don't get discouraged. People are only questioning you in hope to understand better. We have serial helpers here on gc. It is what we live for. It is understandable that without a greek life at your school, and MTV's sorority life as an example, you might not understand how greek letter organizations work, especially pertaining to national groups. But you found the best place for information, anywhere! Just keeping reading the threads, it will all come together.

Still wishing you luck,
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Our group is a women's group. The advisor that I am working with to create this project doesn't know (but I know now) that we are unable to use all SK marks, logos, symbols, etc. because they are registered and trademarked with SK by itself. But, from this e.mail from Pat Mount (she's involved w/ recruitment of SK):

All Sigma Kappa marks, logos, symbols, etc. are registered, trademarked
and/or word marked so you could NOT use the Sigma Kappa part of the name by
itself. Using the four Greek letters (assuming they, in combination, do not
connote an existing member of the National Pan Hellenic or Inter Fraternity
Council) would not be a problem as far as I'm able to determine. But you
would have to be consistent in using all four together.

Does it mean I can use SKEPi together and use marks, logos of SK? I am not using their history since it does not pertain to use since there isn't another SKEPi around.
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Old 07-15-2003, 12:59 PM
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But why would you want to copy the mark and logo is SK? Which, to answer your question, is no. They are trademarked separately under Sigma Kappa.

Again to repeat so many people, you do not know the meaning of the logo, the mascot, the mark, and all other symbolism of Sigma Kappa. So why don't you use something that means something to you guys? Let's say you choose a tree, because it starts out small and grows with every branch. FOR EXAMPLE!
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Old 07-15-2003, 01:03 PM
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Cristina, you can use Sigma Kappa Epsilon Pi, but you CANNOT use:

History
Lavendar and Maroon
Snakes
Doves
The Coat of Arms
The Open Motto
The Promise Book
The Heart
etc.etc.

While snakes, doves, hearts and colors cannot be trademarked per se, if you use these in conjunction with the words "Sigma Kappa" in your name--EVEN IF you have "Epsilon Pi" attached to it, be aware that you will raise many eyebrows. You will also probably get lots of Sigma Kappas very irate. Maybe not such a smart thing to do, especially if you are looking to affiliate with an NPC sorority in the future.

Just something to think about.
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Old 07-15-2003, 01:04 PM
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Originally posted by cristinasmile
Our group is a women's group. The advisor that I am working with to create this project doesn't know (but I know now) that we are unable to use all SK marks, logos, symbols, etc. because they are registered and trademarked with SK by itself. But, from this e.mail from Pat Mount (she's involved w/ recruitment of SK):

All Sigma Kappa marks, logos, symbols, etc. are registered, trademarked
and/or word marked so you could NOT use the Sigma Kappa part of the name by
itself. Using the four Greek letters (assuming they, in combination, do not
connote an existing member of the National Pan Hellenic or Inter Fraternity
Council) would not be a problem as far as I'm able to determine. But you
would have to be consistent in using all four together.

Does it mean I can use SKEPi together and use marks, logos of SK? I am not using their history since it does not pertain to use since there isn't another SKEPi around.
That means you cannot use anything of Sigma Kappa that is copyrighted - their logos, their name, etc. If your letters are going to be SKEPi, you should use logos that have SKEPi, not just SK. Your history shouldn't be based on another SKEPi, there are many locals that have the same name and they do not have the same history. Once agian, your history should be based on you! Your history should start something like "In 2003, a girl named Cristinasmile wanted to start a women's organization on the Mount Ida College campus." It has nothing to do with Sigma Kappa because you aren't Sigma Kappa!
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Old 07-15-2003, 01:09 PM
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Okay,

What she is saying is that no one can keep you from using the letter sigma & kappa. Lots of orgs use these letters. You can not refer to yourselves as sigma kappa. She is probably kinda confused why you are asking. Each letter stands for something meaningful to the group. Only initiated members know what that is. There are lots of group out there with letters similiar to another group. Such as AGD & AZD. But we are completely different. And AGD never had to ask anyones permission to use our letters. The confusion comes into why are you asking Sigma Kappa's permission. Why not ask Sigma Kappa Chi in Santa Barbara? Alpha Sigma Kappa? etc. You get my point? It is not necessary. Just try to be different/unique if you truly want to be a GLO (greek letter organization). And if down the line you decide you would like to become part of a national organization, worry about it down the road. My advice to you is to make yourself as different as you can from all national groups. Also READ! READ! READ! Read through as many threads as possible to get an idea of how glo's relate to one another. wishinhopin and tke209sweetheart have some great threads on starting up.
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Old 07-15-2003, 01:13 PM
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That means you cannot use anything of Sigma Kappa that is copyrighted - their logos, their name, etc. If your letters are going to be SKEPi, you should use logos that have SKEPi, not just SK. Your history shouldn't be based on another SKEPi, there are many locals that have the same name and they do not have the same history. Once agian, your history should be based on you! Your history should start something like "In 2003, a girl named Cristinasmile wanted to start a women's organization on the Mount Ida College campus." It has nothing to do with Sigma Kappa because you aren't Sigma Kappa!
All right then.
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Old 07-15-2003, 01:43 PM
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You keep repeating yourself, but then contradicting yourself. Are you legit? Or are you the ...... <enter mysterious music>.......a V just tryin to mess with us?
No - this is where it all began:

http://www.livejournal.com/community...12548#t1212548

I told her to come here, because I obviously wasn't getting through to her. Now that I see other people talk to her - I don't see ANYONE getting through. She's a a brick wall. A brick wall from Sigma Kappa Epsilon Pi which is NOT an NPC sorority, mind you.
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