Black Man - Blond Chick

[Ideal08]

Originally posted by sigmadiva
Hijack, hijack, hijack!!!! I DO want to know what you think.

Ditto! Ditto! Ditto!

[stardusttwin]

The only storyline that I remember that featured Rebecca was after the office was bombed and her mother showed up at the hospital and refused to allow her to receive a transfussion. Bobby was upset because he said all these years he never knew that Rebecca was Jehovah's Witness and her mother said "well how well do you know her?". It turned into a court case, Bobby lost, Rebecca almost died but she pulled through...they never addressed it again.

Wasted storyline, if your co-worker was a strict anything you would know it - even if you don't discuss it on a daily basis.

But then again - she went to law school at night for years and didn't tell anyone. Hell, she may bust up in there with a white boyfriend she forgot to mention .

[Honeykiss1974]

Originally posted by Eclipse

I really appreciated Eric LaSalle's stance on ER .....

What was his stanc? DId he refuse to have a non-black love interest on ER?

I never watched the show, even though my cousin was on it.

[GRITS]

I have been watching the practice for a long time, and I don'rt ever recall Becca having a love interest. I thought that all of those late nights at the office w/ Eugene would have started something. Maybe we should start a letter writing campaign!

[Eclipse]

Originally posted by Honeykiss1974
What was his stanc? DId he refuse to have a non-black love interest on ER?

I never watched the show, even though my cousin was on it.

Peter Benton had a story line with Lisa Nicole Carson (can't remember her name on the show). She this 'around the way' kinda girl that he met at a barbeque or something. Anyway, they hook up, she gets pregnant (I remembered! Her name was Carla Reese) with his son Reese and they have this baby mama drama kinda relationship. Peter is this hard a$$, can't let anyone get close to him, only thinks about the job kinda guy. (side note: Why Peter--the Black guy--gets the ony girl you ever see him with pregnant and then has an AIDS scare with another black girlfriend while George Clooney's character who was screwing anything in a skirt never caught so much as a cold is beyond me, but that's a different thread for a different day! Any way, fast forward and Peter starts dating this white, British doctor. He cold and distant with Carla, while with the white doctor he's fun (he dressed up for a Halloween party with her once. Something the 'old' Peter would never have done), tender, romantic, etc.

Basically to make a long story longer, Eric LaSalle said he thought the story line sent the wrong message (i.e. Black men need white women to save them from them selves. Black woman make their men angry, while white woman tame the savage beast, if you will) and he refused to deal with it any more. The writers had them break up (I can't remember why) and introduced a black female doctor for Peter to date.

Regarding Eugene....there was a hint of a love story with him and another Black lawyer (she didn't have a regular role). Eugene was opposing counsel in a trial and they bet each other dinner or something. They went out to dinner after the trial and there were sparks, but nothing happened.

I think these are excellent examples of white writers not really knowing what to do with us. They can't imagine us being loving people, so they either make us hyper sexual or asexual. It sad.

[stardusttwin]

Originally posted by Eclipse
The writers had them break up (I can't remember why) and introduced a black female doctor for Peter to date.

Peter went after the ER trauma fellowship which Elizabeth was depending on to keep her visa. Romano was pissed because he had offered Peter a thorasic fellowship but after some issue with a patient Peter decided he didn't want to do the specialty anymore. Romano turned around and created a position making Elizabeth his 2nd in command (now making her Peter's boss) and that led to other tension....[that's the short version..but you can tell already I've spent way too much time watching this show that I can fill in holes from 4 years ago ]

I think these are excellent examples of white writers not really knowing what to do with us. They can't imagine us being loving people, so they either make us hyper sexual or asexual. It sad.

Well said.

[Professor]

You know - you have a point - - - i would not be surprised if her and Bobby hooked up - -

Hell, she may bust up in there with a white boyfriend she forgot to mention . [/B][/QUOTE]

[Dedicated1]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by delph998
[B]This letter was written in response to an article in the Sister 2
Sister Magazine (January 2000 issue).

Dear Jamie:
I'm sorry but I would like to challenge some of your Black male
readers. I am a White female who is engaged to a Black male-good-looking, educated and loving. I just don't understand a lot of Black female's attitudes about our relationship. My man decided he wanted me because the pickings amongst
Black women were slim to none. As he said they were either too fat, too loud, too mean, too argumentative, too needy, too materialistic or carrying too much excess baggage. Before I became engaged, whenever I went out I was constantly approached by Black men, willing to wine and dine me and
give me the world. If Black women are so up in arms about us being with their men, why don't they look at themselves and make some changes. I am tired of the dirty looks I get and snide remarks when we're out in public. I would like to hear from some Black men about why we are so appealing and coveted by them. Bryant Gumbel just left his wife of 26 years for one of us. Charles
Barkley, Scottie Pippen, the model Tyson Beckford, Montell Williams, Quincy Jones, James Earl Jones, Harry Belafonte, Sydney Poitier, Kofi Anan, Cuba Gooding Jr., Don Cornelius, Berry Gordy, Billy Blanks, Larry Fishburne, Wesley Snipes...I could go on and on. But, right now, I'm a little angry and that is why I wrote this so hurriedly. Don't be mad with us White women because so many of your men want us. Get your acts together and learn
from us and we may lead you to treat your men better. If I'm wrong, Black men, let me know.
Disgusted White Girl, Somewhere in VA.


This is why I have a problem with interracial dating. You have dumb people like the GIRL that wrote the letter thinking that Black Queen's do not know how to treat their men. News flash; we do know how to treat our men. Second, you have dumb brothers that complain about Black Queen's that are exactly like the women that raised him from his mom to his aunts! I can deal with it better if they just say they are attracted to the features and the personality of the person of the opposite race. There is nothing wrong with that. Don't hook up with the opposite race because of my big nose, butt, hips and lips. Yes if you cross me, I can be loud and I will not be quiet. I'll fight you with my words to the death all while providing my own wine and dinner.

The Proud Black Woman

[Steeltrap]

McDermott, 5 others leaving 'Practice'

LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) --The Boston law firm of Donnell, Young, Dole & Frutt is undergoing a dramatic downsizing.

Dylan McDermott, Lara Flynn Boyle and four other cast members of "The Practice" are exiting David E. Kelley's ABC legal drama next season after their options were not picked up by David E. Kelley Prods. and 20th Century Fox TV.

The slimming of "Practice's" actor payroll comes as the Emmy-winning series faces at least a 50 percent reduction in the license fee paid by ABC.

The show endured a rocky seventh season -- ratings took a dive after a midseason time-slot shift to Monday -- and secured an eleventh-hour pickup for 2003-04 on condition that the estimated $6.5 million license fee be halved -- though ABC committed to returning the show to its longtime 10 p.m. Sunday home.

McDermott will guest-star in at least four episodes next season, and it is unclear if the other exiting cast members will make any appearances. In addition to McDermott and Boyle, the departures include original cast members Kelli Williams and Lisa Gay Hamilton. Marla Sokoloff, who joined "Practice" during its second season, and Chyler Leigh, who signed on this season, also are gone.

"Due to economic and creative realities, many key people will not be returning, including Dylan," Kelley said Monday. "It hurts, professionally and personally. This is perhaps the finest group of actors and people one could ever hope to work with; I hope for all of them to recur if possible, and if I'm lucky, I'll get to work with them on future projects as well. I'm indebted to each and every one of them."

While budget cuts were expected given such a substantial license-fee cut for an old show, the exodus came as a surprise because five of the six actors whose options have not been picked up -- McDermott, Williams, Hamilton, Sokoloff and Leigh -- were flown to New York last week to appear at ABC's fall schedule-unveiling presentation and party.

"For the past seven seasons, we've successfully relied on David E. Kelley's creative vision for 'The Practice,' and we'll continue to rely on his vision for the future of this series," the network said. "While we're sorry to see these talented cast members leave the show, we're excited to discover what David has in store for 'The Practice' this fall."

Sources said the cast reduction was Kelley's idea and is part of his plan to rejuvenate the veteran show, which won the outstanding drama series Emmy in 1999. It is understood that Kelley's camp has taken note of how other long-running dramas, including NBC's "Law & Order" and "ER," have used cast changes as a creative spark to keep a show fresh and even bring in new viewers.

Several new regulars are expected to join remaining "Practice" cast members Camryn Manheim and Michael Badalucco -- both Emmy winners for their roles -- Steve Harris and Jessica Capshaw.



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[Professor]

DAMN SAYS IT ALL

[Senusret I]

Which one is Jessica Capshaw?

[sphinxpoet]

The Below are not my opinions just something I got from an e-group:

OK. Every 8 months or so, this topic comes up via an email and there is a firestorm of comments, commentaries and feelings. And, I usually participate because I like vigorous dialogue that makes us think. This time however, I thought to dig a little deeper to find out what’s really going on. Please review the below facts about interracial marriages and black families:



Of the black / white interracial combinations, over 70% are Black man / white woman combinations*.
Out of all interracial married couples in the US, 16% are comprised of a Black man to a white woman*. This represents 4/10 % of all married couples nationally*.
As of March 2002, about 70% of all black women and about 60% of all black men were categorized as not married**.
Over 40% of all blacks have never been married. This translates into only 35%** of the 57,919,000* in the United States being black married families**.
Only 10% of blacks in America have been divorced***.


Now, if you are comfortable with these figures, then you can stop reading now. If you are not, please consider the following questions:

Should we be concerned with the number of couples who are interracially married?
Is the fact that the majority of the black / white combinations are black man / white woman be a point of further research, discussion, and study?
Should we concern ourselves with the fact that the vast majority of blacks are not married?
Is the barely 10% difference that exist between the black men who are married (39.8%**) vs. the black women who are married (31.1%**) enough justification to further pontificate the reasons this margin exist?
Should we concentrate our efforts on the fact that 35% of all blacks have never been married?
Are we to be more concerned with the percentage of black men who chose to marry white woman, or the 60% of all black men who are not married? Or the 70% of black woman who are not married%?
OK, after you answer these questions, please consider these:

· What are you doing in your (our) community to correct this trend?

· Have you in some way contributed to any of these trends, or are you still engaging in activities that contribute to this trend (directly or indirectly)?

· Are there enough resources aimed at combating the number of blacks who are not married?

·

· What are you doing to reverse this trend personally?

o If you are not married, what are you doing to prepare yourself for marriage (if you indeed plan to be married one day)?

o If you are married, are you working hard to make sure your marriage is healthy, and are you encouraging others to be married?

These are all rhetorical questions; however they should be used as a springboard for discussion. I encourage each of you (us) to really do some serious soul searching and not only look at we are doing right now, but also where we put our energy. Of course, I do have my own commentary on the questions I have posed, but I encourage you to develop your own. And I hope these facts generate more questions. The bottom line is that I see all of the talk about black / white couples is to generate dialogue between us (black men / women). Often times we get caught up in the emotions of the subject and don't talk about anything that will change anything. Might our energies, efforts and intelligence be used to think and act on issues of greater importance? Remember, there is only 24 hours in a day, and we can only do but so much. Of course, comments are always welcome.

[delph998]

good points, Sphinxpoet!

[sphinxpoet]

Some info I got off th web!

You know, after reading some of these boards for a
number of weeks, I have come to an interesting
conclusion. SOME SINGLE and MARRIED BW are so 'puffed
up' about their educations, their earnings, and
themselves...its NO WONDER that they can't either FIND
a GOOD Black man, or KEEP a GOOD Black man.

Brothers AROUND THE WORLD are rapidly getting tired of
the whining, pressuring, pestering, and
self-exhaltation tactics being done with a
Eurocentric, or a Motherland feel.

WE came to this country on the SAME SHIPS. NOW, SOME
sistahs act as if Black Men eagerly swam into slavery,
while Black women were 'kidnapped'?

Let's answer a few questions...Sistahs...

Check it.

*If a BM wants to better himself, he is 'Trying to be
white'. If a BW wants to better herself she is 'held
to be a role model'.

*If a BM is confident...he is 'Arrogant'. If a BW is
confident...she is 'Independent'.

*If a BM wants to pay for a date, he is 'trying to buy
some'. If a BW accepts, she is 'a shrewd
businesswoman'.

*If a BM disagrees with a BW, he is 'Abusive'. If a
BW disagrees with a BM, she is 'expressing her
opinion'.

*If a BM is educated...he is a 'Nerd'. If a BW is
educated...she is 'Vital'.

*If a BM does NOT want to get married...he is 'unable
to make up his mind'. If a BW does NOT want to get
married, she is 'exercising her options'.

*If a BM says NO, he is 'Confused'. If a BW says NO,
she is 'sure of herself'.

*If a BM dates a woman of another race, he is a
'Sellout'. If a BW dates a man of another race, she
is 'courageous'.

*If a BM does NOT ask a particular BW for a date, he
is judged to be 'gay'. If a BW can't get a date, she
is 'misunderstood'.

*If a BM goes to church and not the club, he is
'emotionally disturbed'. If a BW goes to a club and
not to church, she is being 'entertained'.

*If a BM is the father of an OOW child and wants to
marry the mother, he is a 'desparate thug'. If a BW
has OOW children and decides NOT to get married, she
is 'a upright Queen'.

*If a BM is unemployed, he is a 'Loser'. If a BW is
unemployed she is 'Exploring'.

*If a BM lives at home with his parents, he is a
'Punk'. If a BW lives at home with her parents, she
is 'Conserving Her Resources'.

*If a BM smacks a BW it is 'Domestic Violence'. If a
BW smacks a BM is it 'Making Her Voice Heard'.

*If a BM wears a blue collar and sweats on a job, he
has 'No Ambition'. If a BW wears a blue collar and
sweats on a job, she is 'A blossoming employee'.

*If a BM starts a business, he is a 'Shade Tree'. If
a BW starts a business, she is an 'Entrepreneur'.

*If a BM watches sports, he is a 'Brute'. If a BW
watches Montel and Oprah, she is 'Informed'.

*If a BM is treating his woman right...he is
'Invisible'. If a BW is treating her man right...she
is 'Suffering in Silence'.

*If a BM is a loving husband and parent, he is
'Obligated'. If a BW is a loving wife and parent, she
is 'Illuminated'.

*If a BM is spiritually centered, he is 'Trapped in
the 'White Man's' Religion. If a BW is spiritually
centered, she is 'Connected with the Ancestors'.

Funny. We were BOTH African when we got onto the
ships. What happened to some of YOU?

Black womanhood has been puffed, puffed, puffed up to
the size of a BLIMP.


A BROTHER CAN BE DAMNED IF HE DON'T, AND DAMNED IF HE
DOES...BUT HE IS STILL A FORCE TO BE HEARD...A BLACK
MAN!

Peace

Manhoodline

[Honeykiss1974]

You know, I hate to read stuff like this because it so full of lies
and serves no purpose but to further seperate us.