Family Love?

[bro_strawter]

Soror, I'll e-mail you or pm you when I get a chance. I'm sure you know, your post will go nowhere here. Perhaps you might need to direct your questions to "our" board.

[~Q5~]

Lets talk about family hate. Like........oooh I just HATE Bsoldier, he be getting on the nerves!!!! I swear he think he be talking about knowledge...somebody needs to stop listening to the voices in his head for real.

[Senusret I]

Yes, let's talk about family hate indeed. I HATE me some Q5. I mean, can the name be any shorter? So po' she can't afford words. So don't be hating because I know how to read and write and punctuate. . .reading is fundamental!

Originally posted by ~Q5~
Lets talk about family hate. Like........oooh I just HATE Bsoldier, he be getting on the nerves!!!! I swear he think he be talking about knowledge...somebody needs to stop listening to the voices in his head for real.

[~Q5~]

Originally posted by dardenr
Yes, let's talk about family hate indeed. I HATE me some Q5. I mean, can the name be any shorter? So po' she can't afford words. So don't be hating because I know how to read and write and punctuate. . .reading is fundamental!

alrighty now sound like somebody want to sing the toast song naked in a cold river......talk now brother dear....but you know i know where to find you. Mr. Intellinegro got jokes, we'll see how long you can hold up against the devil herself.

[Senusret I]

Whatever hater! I done sung the toast song naked and upside down on a frozen lake! And I had to recite the founders backwards with a match between my eyelids.

And if you the Devil, what does that make me?

Originally posted by ~Q5~


alrighty now sound like somebody want to sing the toast song naked in a cold river......talk now brother dear....but you know i know where to find you. Mr. Intellinegro got jokes, we'll see how long you can hold up against the devil herself.

[~Q5~]

Originally posted by dardenr
Whatever hater! I done sung the toast song naked and upside down on a frozen lake! And I had to recite the founders backwards with a match between my eyelids.

And if you the Devil, what does that make me?

Well i guess some would say the anti-christ. i think i will go with mephistophicles ( if you have to look that up i will personally sock you in the head)

[Senusret I]

Oh trust me, I know. . .lol. . .I think I'll put that on my jacket.

Originally posted by ~Q5~

Well i guess some would say the anti-christ. i think i will go with mephistophicles ( if you have to look that up i will personally sock you in the head)

[~Q5~]

Originally posted by dardenr
Oh trust me, I know. . .lol. . .I think I'll put that on my jacket.

Now there's an idea. I was going to put some anti...stuff on mine but now you got me thinking.

But you know you cant be walking around getting people all confused. People got a hard enough time reading and writing in plain english don't get them all messed up by having to read a walking billboard.

[gamma_girl52]

Originally posted by bro_strawter
Soror, I'll e-mail you or pm you when I get a chance. I'm sure you know, your post will go nowhere here. Perhaps you might need to direct your questions to "our" board.

So I have learned, frat. Oh well, I didn't hurt to try anyway!
Have you been to "our" board over the last few days? It's entirely too hot over there, for real. Same old topics, over and over again...

[Senusret I]

But it could work if LITERACY was our national thrust for the next two years. . .

Originally posted by ~Q5~


Now there's an idea. I was going to put some anti...stuff on mine but now you got me thinking.

But you know you cant be walking around getting people all confused. People got a hard enough time reading and writing in plain english don't get them all messed up by having to read a walking billboard.

[~Q5~]

Originally posted by dardenr
But it could work if LITERACY was our national thrust for the next two years. . .

oh man. did you go there...i know you didnt just go there. i just know you didnt. well check back for my edit on this post cause i want to put something good up when i get a chance.

[Virtuous Woman]

To Bro Strawter:

Perhaps you might need to direct your questions to "our" board

See, comments like that emphasize the disunity that causes people to "disagree" or "disapprove" of the whole 25/52.

I believe that she asked for OPINIONS and everyone is entitled to one. I really don't think the purpose of the thread was to have everyone post that they agreed with her.


To gamma_girl52 and Notorious4it:

I think what I am trying to do is let people know that we're out there and we're actually about something positive, not sitting around bashing those who don't participate

There is a LOT of bashing going on and that's what ruins it in the eyes of some people (including mine). I think it's wonderful for people to get together and for two organizations to appreciate their common history and purpose but it becomes tainted when it causes a division within both organizations.

We need to communicate because if the two groups were able to come together and work it would be great for ou communities and schools

I agree but it is totally impossible to have UNITY through division.

I personally have no problem with female APOs because we have more in common than male APOs because not only are we about service but we're also women. SOme sorors don't feel the same some do

if you're a fraternity member then you're my brother, hands down. Male, female, whatever. It is so much bigger than that at least to me.

I agree. Can you imagine the impact the orgs could make if they were able to work together? BUT there are a lot of people who claim that they want to see this happen but they are doing a lot of things in the name of 25/52 that are getting them farther and father away from their goal.

[Senusret I]

Virtuous Woman. . .

I couldn't have said it better myself.

But I bet you didn't have to recite the founders backwards with a match between your eyelids, upside down and naked on a frozen lake.

[gamma_girl52]

I'm glad you decided to bring the original topic back, so let me address if I can.

Yes I did ask for opinions and comments, and actually I was anticipating some disagreement. But with having two different viewpoints...you'd be surprised of what comes from it. So I appreciate everyone's comments so far, especially from my female brothers.

Those are good points, and perhaps that is the root of the problem, the division (that's the word right there). And why is is still there if most of us are saying "it's bigger than this"? If I invited you to an event that my chapter was having and other brothers were going to be there, would you show up? Better yet would you be comfortable. That is where we are not seeming to get to in this...even though you have a lot of folks saying "it doesn't matter" the fear and uncertainty is still there.

And another thing. From what I have seen, those that are "in" this family may not necessarily agree with the initial reason why it was formed. Many want to move on from that (the exclusion thing) and focus on what they should have put more of a focus on in the first place, service. When I met some of these brothers (and these were some pre-76 and early 80's made) they were not even focusing on that.

They want to see the AA chapters (most likely all male) learn how to start taking care of business more efficently and not waste time on something that is already in effect. There are women in the frat-fine-so let's get down to some real business...these brothers brought paperwork with them to share with the other younger brothers. Like lifetime membership and how to start an alumni association. That is what needs to be going on. So many have moved on from that, because they are trying to get stronger and grow. Not because of the whole co-ed issue, but because they don't have a voice to get some changes made IF they want them or not.

Can you give me an example of your last statement where you've seen that occur?

[gamma_girl52]

Originally posted by dardenr

I couldn't have said it better myself.

Well how about some solutions then since we know what your stance is? Or does it not matter either way, or what.