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Old 10-25-2002, 02:22 PM
sigmagrrl sigmagrrl is offline
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either way i think it's an extremely drastic decision to get surgery for something that you can usually take care of with a little hard work.

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Why, oh WHY do people see losing over 300lbs or more as "a little hard work"? It's MORE THAN THAT!!!!!!! I COULDN'T work out at 477lbs! Yes, that's what I weighed! You try fitting a 70"+ hip on a skinny statinary bike! You try walking when your ankles are perpetually swollen! I could BARELY walk up the stairs, so please don't call it a "little hard work". I was the walking dead!!!!!!

Second, if you substitute alcohol or heroin for food, would the alcoholic be seen as a moral failure as well? It's a form of addiction. Obesity is an illness. Stop persecuting people for weight! Christ, I am SO tired of that!!!!!! It is damn hard to stick to my weight loss goals everyday! But, I try. I am no less than anyone else because of how I look or what substance I chose to use to medicate myself. I have posted before what I suffered through, so I won't rehash it, but please, PLEASE, stop saying "It's just a matter of a little hard work!" Hauling a 1/4 ton body around was hard, too! But I did what I had to to, and I'm still going to get shit for it?!?! NO WAY!!!!!!!
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Old 10-25-2002, 02:39 PM
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I saw the MTV special as well. I think it's important to state that ANY surgery performed for ANY reason has the potential to be deadly. Complications arise all the time. People seem so focused on getting a quick fix that they sometimes don't seriously consider the possible consequences of their actions.

Personally, I don't have a problem with gastric bypass when used for dramatic weight loss in the morbidly obese. I think people need to understand that it's major surgery and that the weight can be gained back.

When I watched the MTV special, I thought the girl who had the gastric bypass was really the only one on the show who had a legitimate need for surgery. The two girls and the calf guy were just vain.

Oh, and the reason calf guy was single has nothing to do with his calves and EVERYTHING to do with the fact that he was a cocky jerk.
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Old 10-25-2002, 02:56 PM
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I wholeheartedly support those who undergo gastric bypass surgery. It's not something that doctors would let you go through with if you were not a good candidate for it. Losing weight is incredibly hard, and this seems to really help people.

I also want to thank those of you who have shared their very personal experiences. I can't even begin to imagine what you have gone through.

Some of us need to take the time each day to thank God (or whatever you believe in) for what we have. I bitch up and down about my weight, but I'm so much better off than a lot of people (i'm a size 9/10).

As for the rest of the people on that MTV show- those girls made me want to puke. Do they realize how brainless they looked?

And that guy was the most pathetic person that I think i've ever seen. Even his mom said that he needed to work on his mind and not his body. What does he do? Does he work? Then he goes around after the surgery asking people to feel his calf. And no man should EVER EVER EVER wear body glitter. No excuses. ever. What a fairy.

Haha, the total package my ass. I bet his "package" is the size of a limp noodle.
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Old 10-25-2002, 07:25 PM
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sigmagrrl,
i made very sure i put the word usually in there so i wasn't making a completely blanket statement. don't sit there and think i don't know what it is to be fat and be told i'm just lazy. i've been fat my whole life. i meant that working out for people who are like 350 or less is a whole lot better than putting yourself through that kind of surgery. you're right, at your weight you needed to have that surgery or you would die. no question. and of all things, don't even think i'm persecuting someone for their weight. i may not be as big as what you were, but i sure as he!! am not at a healthy weight. did you even read all of what i posted? i seriously doubt you did, otherwise you wouldn't have taken such a defensive nature to what i posted. i'm fat, i know what it's like to be persecuted and what i posted was in no way a form of persecution.

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Old 10-25-2002, 07:27 PM
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oh yeah, m&m, i love your post. i was trying to say some of the same thing. and you are so right about the calf guy. such a prick.

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Old 03-20-2003, 03:39 PM
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hahaha. My comment to him was to screw the calf implants and spend the money on gettin them donkey teeth fixed. The reason chicks arent all over him is because it look like he's a shark. Six damn rows of teeth. And they were BIG teeth. Yeah, he could model, as long as he didnt smile. Look like his damn tounge's in jail. Fool. His damn family dont even love him enough to go with him for surgery. That ought to tell you something about his personality. His own people dont like him.
OKAY WHY was I doing a search on fitness/weight loss threads and I came across this...THIS IS HILARIOUS!!! Maybe I am just tired, but this has to be the funniest post I have seen on GC ever!!!

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Old 03-20-2003, 04:33 PM
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Congrats Simgagirl on your decision to become healthy and on losing 240 pounds!!!
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Old 03-20-2003, 08:16 PM
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Why, oh WHY do people see losing over 300lbs or more as "a little hard work"? It's MORE THAN THAT!!!!!!! I COULDN'T work out at 477lbs! Yes, that's what I weighed! You try fitting a 70"+ hip on a skinny statinary bike! You try walking when your ankles are perpetually swollen! I could BARELY walk up the stairs, so please don't call it a "little hard work". I was the walking dead!!!!!!

Second, if you substitute alcohol or heroin for food, would the alcoholic be seen as a moral failure as well? It's a form of addiction. Obesity is an illness. Stop persecuting people for weight! Christ, I am SO tired of that!!!!!! It is damn hard to stick to my weight loss goals everyday! But, I try. I am no less than anyone else because of how I look or what substance I chose to use to medicate myself. I have posted before what I suffered through, so I won't rehash it, but please, PLEASE, stop saying "It's just a matter of a little hard work!" Hauling a 1/4 ton body around was hard, too! But I did what I had to to, and I'm still going to get shit for it?!?! NO WAY!!!!!!!
Sweety I so now what you're talking about. Maybe not to that extent, cuz I'm half of what you were. I've tried every diet.... Adkins, Medical Weight-loss Clinic, Jenny Craig, working out, etc. Every single one of those diets guess what I lost? 10 lbs. After I lose the 10 lbs it's nothing at all. Well, I actually cheated on Medical Weight Loss.... you can't have someone go on 1000 calories a day, when they eat like way more than that normally. A friend of mine was on that too, and she said her doctor said to get off immediately cuz 1000 calories is not healthy for anyone! And when I used to work out while I was on another doctor's diet (a appetite suppressment before lunch and dinner, and a protein shake in the morning), I had lost the ten pounds, but then I worked out 2 hours everyday, and gained the 10 back in muscle!!!

It's really hard for obese people to exercise and do things that "normal" people can do. If my mom were to let me have some kind of surgery, I'd definately do it. They have this lazer lipo surgery that the radio station here did while on the air, and they said it was fabulous. They can only do a lil at a time, but believe me losing a lil here and there would help out greatly.
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Old 03-21-2003, 04:11 AM
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Wow this kind of was a timely thread to bring back up for me. I actually recently went to ask my doctor about gastric bypass being an option for me because I'm 5'5" and weigh 300 pounds. I've been overweight my whole life (was a womans size 14 at the age of 12).

PM_mama, I am just like you and have tried nutrisystem, jenny craig, those fad tv diets, metabolife, Richard simmons, phen-fen and weight watchers (quite a few times). Every single time I lose about 20 pounds and no matter what I do I hit a plateau and can't lose any more. After a few weeks I get discouraged and go back to my old eating habits. The 20 pounds then come back and more often then not bring 5-10 pounds of friends with them. In some ways I wish I had never started "dieting" then maybe I wouldn't have hit the 300 pound mark.

Anyway, back to the gastric bypass. When I asked my doctor at Kaiser Permanente about it the only way they will allow someone to do that is if they are at serious health risks. Well I thought being 300 pounds was risk enough. My doctor told me though that the complications (1 in 300 patients have complications) from the surgery are not worth the benefits so the only patients that they look at for candidates are those who have uncontrollable diabetes or high blood pressure or have severe heart disease. Of course most things I read on the web or see on tv are all good things about the surgery so I was really bummed about the fact I'm not a candidate (blood pressure is 121/89, no diabetes, and heart in good shape). I've always wondered what it is like to be skinny and shop in "normal stores" and what its like to climb a flight of stairs without feeling like you have run a marathon. Now, when I was reading some of the bad things on this thread I'm a little more okay with the fact that I can't do the suregery unless i go do some private clinic and cough up the money. There's still part of me that wants to do the surgery but it will take me a few years to save up the money so I'll have time to really think it through

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Old 03-21-2003, 05:43 AM
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A very very close family member of mine had the gastric bypass surgery a little over a year ago. Although I was afraid for her I was also supportive. She weighed 330 pounds and is now down to 185. I am so proud of her. She gets up and goes to work out every day and is doing very well. It was the best decision for her.
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Old 03-21-2003, 04:39 PM
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i'v also wondered what it would be like to be skinny. how much easier life would be if i was. no more criticism, no more plus size clothes. i'd love to be able to just walk into a store and buy and outfit without worry. i'll get there someday.

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