License to Discriminate laws - Page 3

DubaiSis · #31 03-31-2015, 12:47 PM

While other states have gotten away with similar actions, clearly this was a tipping point. I'm ok with the world blasting Indiana over this and affecting real change because it will put the breaks on the people who I believe don't care nearly as much about religious freedom as they do about the almighty dollar. You can get a lot of people to come out to Chik-Fil-A in support of their bigotry, but you can't get anyone to attend a basketball tournament if the tournament committee won't allow the game to be held there. I think the biggest changes in our culture have been due to 3 things - the US military, sports and music. Those are pretty huge parts of our culture, and if bands won't play there and sporting events can't be held there (Uncle Sam has already gotten on board with doing the right thing, at least on paper), then the culture WILL change.

Now if we could just get the wing nuts to quit breeding we could let these attitudes die off in a generation or so.

DeltaBetaBaby · #32 03-31-2015, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by agzg

Part of the problem with that is that a majority Republican Legislature and a Republican governor will be forced to act more quickly if many big business leave the state versus if they're voted out in the next election. It's almost a two-pronged approach. The sad part is that businesses leaving the state punishes primarily Indianapolis, and that there are real people in Indianapolis who may be told their office is relocating which doesn't always come with offers to relocate with the office or offers to telecommute.

True. Pence is already backing off, and asked for some changes today.

exlurker · #33 03-31-2015, 07:56 PM

Arkansas Bill Headed to Gov. Hutchinson for Signature

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/arkansas...-freedom-bill/

Reportedly the Little Rock Chamber of Commerce – and other entities – have stated opposition to the bill.

ZetaPhi708.20 · #34 03-31-2015, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by exlurker

Arkansas Bill Headed to Gov. Hutchinson for Signature

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/arkansas...-freedom-bill/

Reportedly the Little Rock Chamber of Commerce – and other entities – have stated opposition to the bill.

Wal-Mart has issued a statement opposing the law also.

ZetaPhi708.20 · #35 03-31-2015, 07:59 PM

Tonight, I'm never more proud to be a brother of Lambda Chi Alpha.

http://www.lambdachi.org/blog/candc/...tion-act-rfra/

Have any other GLOs issued statements regarding that law, even if they do not have their HQs in IN?

exlurker · #36 03-31-2015, 08:03 PM

Some sports figures who will be involved in showing opposition to the Indiana law are mentioned :

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/gay-a...ry?id=30031564

This is in line with something DubaiSis said:

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Originally Posted by DubaiSis

While other states have gotten away with similar actions, clearly this was a tipping point. I'm ok with the world blasting Indiana over this and affecting real change because it will put the breaks on the people who I believe don't care nearly as much about religious freedom as they do about the almighty dollar. You can get a lot of people to come out to Chik-Fil-A in support of their bigotry, but you can't get anyone to attend a basketball tournament if the tournament committee won't allow the game to be held there. I think the biggest changes in our culture have been due to 3 things - the US military, sports and music. Those are pretty huge parts of our culture, and if bands won't play there and sporting events can't be held there (Uncle Sam has already gotten on board with doing the right thing, at least on paper), then the culture WILL change.

Now if we could just get the wing nuts to quit breeding we could let these attitudes die off in a generation or so.

ZetaPhi708.20 · #37 03-31-2015, 08:56 PM

Now, it is Arkansas' turn:

https://twitter.com/hashtag/BoycottArkansas?src=tren

33girl · #38 04-01-2015, 09:38 AM

Here's my question. Who introduced this bill in the Indiana legislature? Which Indiana legislators voted for it? Did they vote for it because there was a public referendum for them to do so?

Because unless this bill was favored by most of the population of the state, I really don't understand why people or corporations think boycotting is the answer. None of those politicians are going to be immediately affected - the guy selling popcorn in the stands at the NCAA game is.

exlurker · #39 04-01-2015, 04:52 PM

Hey, everybody, do you recall that Arkansas' governor, Asa Hutchinson, said repeatedly that he would sign the bill the state legislature passed? Reportedly, his office on Tuesday said he'd sign it?

Well, forget those statements / promises, whatever you want to call them. He has somehow or other discovered that the bill needs some work. I guess this is what you'd call a road-to-Damascus moment for him. There's a new statement out :

http://www.timesunion.com/news/us/ar...us-6172669.php

Folks, I personally heart politicians with loudly stated convictions that can change so fast it'd make your head spin.

To be serious, I truly appreciate what Wal-Mart, Apple, Gap (which includes Banana Republic and Old Navy), the NACAA, and on and on, have said and done on this issue.

Nanners52674 · #40 04-01-2015, 05:47 PM

I have to say, when Wal-Mart which is arguably the worst corporation in our country, comes out against something like this it's time to give up and go home.

There was a great interview on MSNBC today with a woman from the American Family Association, she said that the CEO of Apple is "not smart" and just repeatedly put her foot in her mouth.

exlurker · #41 04-01-2015, 07:30 PM

The owners of a Indiana pizza restaurant say they wouldn't cater a gay or lesbian wedding. But they're okay with serving gay or lesbian people who come in for a pizza.

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/india...ry?id=30045085

Nanners52674 · #42 04-01-2015, 09:40 PM

Exluker, have you seen what the Internet has done to their Yelp and website etc...

LXA SE285 · #43 04-02-2015, 12:30 AM

One of the better Yelp "reviews":

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Married my cousin (a girl, NATURALLY) last week and without hesitation, picked up the phone and begged Memories Pizza to cater the ceremony on short notice. Now let me tell you, there's a lot of cousin weddings here in the good, God fearing state of Indiana, and I knew that Memories catering would be in high demand. Despite this, the good people at Memories did not disappoint, assuring me that all my slack jawed guests would leave my weddin' with full stomachs and empty, closed minds. Would give it 6 stars but I can't count that high.

LXA SE285 · #44 04-02-2015, 12:39 AM

Fake website that was up earlier today until people (i.e., the owners) complained to the hosting site:

Nanners52674 · #45 04-02-2015, 06:38 PM

Didn't even take a week to get to the SNL "going out of business" skit to happen. Memories pizza closed down from the backlash.

Honestly I'm glad, they didn't have to say hey we're bigots, they could of kept their mouth shut until they encountered a gay wedding. Some people are outraged that they got so much heat, but they couldn't of painted a bigger target for themselves. No sympathy for bigots.