If a Professor is Anti-Greek.... - Page 3

ElvisLover · #31 10-03-2013, 09:05 PM

Perhaps this professor was rejected by GLOs and that is why there is so much defensiveness/hatred? Just trying to figure this one out.

ZetaPhi708 · #32 10-03-2013, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

What class is this anyway, where the professor feels the need to constantly discuss Greek life?

I'm just curious as to what could spur these rants about the "cult-like" nature of GLOs..

I mean no disrespect, ma'am, but I do not wish to reveal the class, as some intrepid sleuth may discover secret identities.

Sciencewoman · #33 10-03-2013, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ElvisLover

Perhaps this professor was rejected by GLOs and that is why there is so much defensiveness/hatred? Just trying to figure this one out.

I thought of this, too. I mean, why does he even care this much??

ZetaPhi, does the class have anything to do with this "topic?"

ZetaPhi708 · #34 10-03-2013, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

Am I the only one who thinks the OP, rather than keep it low-key and avoid wearing letters, should instead get all the Greeks from her class together and get everyone to wear letters every day?

Uh, yeah, I'm a guy. LOL. But that is a brilliant idea.

ZetaPhi708 · #35 10-03-2013, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ElvisLover

Perhaps this professor was rejected by GLOs and that is why there is so much defensiveness/hatred? Just trying to figure this one out.

That I do not know but it is a good theory.

ZetaPhi708 · #36 10-03-2013, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sciencewoman

I thought of this, too. I mean, why does he even care this much??

ZetaPhi, does the class have anything to do with this "topic?"

Can you clarify "topic" please, ma'am?

Sciencewoman · #37 10-03-2013, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ZetaPhi708

Can you clarify "topic" please, ma'am?

Does the course relate to the topic of cults? History of secret societies? Student affairs (although I can't imagine a professor in that area being down on Greek life)? Social dynamics? Do his viewpoints relate to the course content, even if they're unpopular?

ZetaPhi708 · #38 10-03-2013, 09:17 PM

Just a small point of clarification ( and I apologize for not stating that originally ), I'm an alum of my fraternity and am working on my 2nd and 3rd degrees ( would an Associate's Degree count as the first? LOL ).

Oh, and to answer one other question earlier, Yes, I do have to take one more class with this professor; and I personally don't know any of the other Greeks in the class and no brothers of my fraternity are in the class, to the best of my knowledge. I do not know a lot of the current actives in my chapter.

ZetaPhi708 · #39 10-03-2013, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sciencewoman

Does the course relate to the topic of cults? History of secret societies? Student affairs (although I can't imagine a professor in that area being down on Greek life)? Social dynamics? Do his viewpoints relate to the course content, even if they're unpopular?

I can state that no the first question, no to the second; sort of to the 3rd.

Sciencewoman · #40 10-03-2013, 09:33 PM

Since you have to take this prof again, and you're tentative enough to not want to share the course name/description here, I'd advise against do anything beyond commenting on the course evals, at this time.

None of like to see GLOs disparaged by those outside our organizations. But, he holds the power over you at this point, which I think you realize.

Personally, I don't see this in the same light as sexism, racism, etc. It's not discrimination -- it's a weird opinion we don't agree with. It sounds like he's given this some serious thought, and this is his opinion. If it has nothing to do with the class, you can really nail him on the course evals. I've heard lectures from professors who espouse vastly different opinions than mine. I can agree to disagree. That's what academic freedom protects.

I am troubled that the classroom climate discourages civil discourse, and no one feels comfortable speaking up.

MysticCat · #41 10-03-2013, 09:48 PM

^^^ This.

ASTalumna06 · #42 10-03-2013, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ZetaPhi708

Uh, yeah, I'm a guy. LOL. But that is a brilliant idea.

Ha sorry! I didn't even pay attention to who posed the original question. Oops

33girl · #43 10-03-2013, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ElvisLover

Perhaps this professor was rejected by GLOs and that is why there is so much defensiveness/hatred? Just trying to figure this one out.

It doesn't matter if he got spanked every day with a paddle full of nails by every fraternity member on his campus. If he is behaving in this unprofessional of a manner, he has no business in a college (or any other) classroom. I think ASTalumna06 and I are on the same page. If you and the other Greeks wore letters and made your affiliation known, and he graded you prejudicially because of that, you could call him on it. (The best thing would be for someone who really isn't Greek to wear KEG letters or the like.)

This isn't "academic freedom" if he's talking about something that doesn't relate to the course, or neglecting talking about things that DO relate to the course to go on his asinine rants.

ZetaPhi708 · #44 10-04-2013, 08:50 AM

I would like to convey my thanks to all of the wonderful GCers on here who have responded with some great ideas and advice. While we are all brothers or sisters of our separate organizations, we stand united together when needed.

badgeguy · #45 10-05-2013, 12:14 AM

Ok, I read through all the posts, and I'm gonna suggest something that may sound odd, but I know for a fact that it this idea did work at Miami University with a professor.

If it's possible with your organization, try bringing a small contingent of your members dressed nicely, and offer to this professor an opportunity to become the groups faculty advisor or offer him the chance to come into your organization and experience first hand what Greek Life is like.

At Miami University the Kappa Sigma fraternity had a professor who wasn't Greek himself, and had no idea what the real life of the Greek system was about so the chapter offered this professor the opportunity to become the groups faculty advisor. His whole preception changed, and he made one request, that he go though the groups pledge process and be initiated like all the other members. The fraternity contacted the HQ and under special circumstances were allowed and this professor was initiated after going through the entire pledge process with the group.

He became a strong supporter of the Greek system for many years.

My suggestion with this professor who seems to want to bash the system, may not be fully knowledgeable about the system, and given the proper chances to see firsthand what Greek life is really about, he may be willing to have a change of heart.

Just a thought. It did work at this school and may be an option to help educate the guy rather than making him feel even harsher against Greeks if all Greeks just give him a bad report.

BG