Pope of Rome to Step Down - Page 3

Tulip86 · #1 02-13-2013, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by StealthMode

What happens if there is no new Pope by Easter?

My thoughts exactly. Conclaves can take a LONG time. Though, modern conclaves don't take months, or even years like the ones in the 12th-18th century. One took almost 3 years!

I hope they elect a cardinal that can connect with all Catholics, since most popes were European, but these days, most Catholics aren't. I also hope they find an energetic leader, a communicator like John Paul II (though I personally found him too conservative on women's and sexuality issues).

MysticCat · #2 02-13-2013, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by StealthMode

What happens if there is no new Pope by Easter?

Nothing, other than that there's no pope by Easter. I think it's just more of a matter of it would be ideal for a new pope to be able to preside at the Holy Week and Easter liturgies and not ideal for the cardinals to still be sequestered in conclave during Holy Week and Easter.

I haven't seen a date announced for the conclave, but my understanding is that it has to start between March 15-20. Palm Sunday is March 24 this year, and Easter is March 31.

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Originally Posted by Tulip86

I also hope they find an enigmatic leader . . .

Do you mean energetic?

Tulip86 · #3 02-13-2013, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat

Nothing, other than that there's no pope by Easter. I think it's just more of a matter of it would be ideal for a new pope to be able to preside at the Holy Week and Easter liturgies and not ideal for the cardinals to still be sequestered in conclave during Holy Week and Easter.

I haven't seen a date announced for the conclave, but my understanding is that it has to start between March 15-20. Palm Sunday is March 24 this year, and Easter is March 31.

Do you mean energetic?

LOL yes, haha typing on my phone

Psi U MC Vito · #4 02-13-2013, 07:46 PM

I love the old people who crack up over the "you are but dust" during the liturgy for today.

aephi alum · #5 02-14-2013, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito

I love the old people who crack up over the "you are but dust" during the liturgy for today.

Sorry for the double post ...

My mother received ashes this morning while in hospital. I'm sure she was thrilled to hear, "Remember, thou art dust, and unto dust thou shalt return." (Or whatever the current wording is.)

My father went to Mass this morning and received ashes. He washed them off before we went over to the hospital. I didn't think you were allowed to do that. Several nurses were walking around with ashes.

But I digress.......

SWTXBelle · #6 02-14-2013, 07:38 AM

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Sorry for the double post ...

My mother received ashes this morning while in hospital. I'm sure she was thrilled to hear, "Remember, thou art dust, and unto dust thou shalt return." (Or whatever the current wording is.)

My father went to Mass this morning and received ashes. He washed them off before we went over to the hospital. I didn't think you were allowed to do that. Several nurses were walking around with ashes.

But I digress.......

Two possibilities as to what your mother heard - either "Remember, man, that you are dust and unto dust you shall return." or "Turn away from sin and be faithful to the Gospel." Maybe your mom got #2 - it would seem a little more appropriate to the setting! Hope she is improving and will be able to celebrate Easter outside of the hospital.

There's always a discussion about whether or not sporting your ashes all day is a form of "public prayer" specifically discussed in Matthew 6:5. Intelligent response I've heard is it depends on intent - if you wear your ashes to show what a good Christian you are - BAD. If you wear your ashes as a reminder of your mortality and sin , and to serve as a witness to your faith in humbleness of spirit and your need for God - GOOD.

33girl · #7 02-14-2013, 03:18 PM

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There's always a discussion about whether or not sporting your ashes all day is a form of "public prayer" specifically discussed in Matthew 6:5. Intelligent response I've hear is it depends on intent - if you wear your ashes to show what a good Christian you are - BAD. If you wear your ashes as a reminder of your mortality and sin , and to serve as a witness to your faith in humbleness of spirit and your need for God - GOOD.

I went to a new church last night and I did think it was a little ironic that the reading was the above passage from Matthew, and then we got ashes on our foreheads and were exhorted to make the sign of the Cross when appropriate (some Lutherans think this is just a little too Papist, some are way into it).

GeekyPenguin · #8 02-17-2013, 09:15 PM

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I went to a new church last night and I did think it was a little ironic that the reading was the above passage from Matthew, and then we got ashes on our foreheads and were exhorted to make the sign of the Cross when appropriate (some Lutherans think this is just a little too Papist, some are way into it).

The Lutherans here do not get ashed lest they look too Catholic, so the sign of thecross is definitely out.

Last year my husband went to Mass with me in the morning and we went to his church's night service and got a lot of side eye for our ashes.

aephi alum · #9 02-15-2013, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

Two possibilities as to what your mother heard - either "Remember, man, that you are dust and unto dust you shall return." or "Turn away from sin and be faithful to the Gospel." Maybe your mom got #2 - it would seem a little more appropriate to the setting! Hope she is improving and will be able to celebrate Easter outside of the hospital.

I've never heard the second wording. I went to Catholic school for a few years, and we were always taken to Mass on Ash Wednesday, and we always got the "thou art dust" wording, with strict instructions not to wash or wipe off the ashes until we washed up before bedtime.

On a side note, the latest is that my mother will be discharged to a rehab facility this weekend.

adpiucf · #10 02-21-2013, 12:07 AM

As long as we're talking about the Catholic Church... This priest is being expelled from his parish over a photo of himself and another man.

http://freethinker.co.uk/2011/07/12/...sure-his-anus/

SWTXBelle · #11 02-21-2013, 06:30 AM

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As long as we're talking about the Catholic Church... This priest is being expelled from his parish over a photo of himself and another man.

And your point is . . .?

If we want to just have general Catholic stuff, this is my nominee:
CATHOLIC SMACKDOWN!
Stephen Colbert and Jack White - feel free to play along and shout out the correct answer when they get it wrong!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_884052.html

DaffyKD · #12 02-17-2013, 11:26 PM

I just heard that the Pope is giving up the Papacy for Lent.

DaffyKD

SWTXBelle · #13 02-17-2013, 11:31 PM

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Psi U MC Vito · #14 02-19-2013, 04:27 PM

I stand corrected. Thank you.

GeekyPenguin · #15 02-20-2013, 11:33 PM

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I stand corrected. Thank you.

I think they are most common in Wisconsin and the states that touch us. I never knew the WELS was a thing until I met my husband and there was a church and school in my hometown, so it's not like they stand out.