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Old 08-08-2012, 02:17 PM
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A very good response from the NIC:

http://www.nicindy.org/blog/why-the-...-fraternities/
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Old 08-09-2012, 06:40 AM
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Maybe Kevin doesn't mean "ranking" literally, because I agree with him.

I think all GLOs could stand to view each other's progress in a neutral, meaningful way. Maybe not in a strict ranking, but maybe a chart. We all know that all the smillions of NIC organizations are not true "peer" organizations, but I think it's wiser to compare organizations against each other rather than internal metrics all the time.

Or look at it this way:

Executive leadership and volunteers could make use of GOOD data.
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Old 08-10-2012, 02:36 AM
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Maybe Kevin doesn't mean "ranking" literally, because I agree with him.

I think all GLOs could stand to view each other's progress in a neutral, meaningful way. Maybe not in a strict ranking, but maybe a chart. We all know that all the smillions of NIC organizations are not true "peer" organizations, but I think it's wiser to compare organizations against each other rather than internal metrics all the time.

Or look at it this way:

Executive leadership and volunteers could make use of GOOD data.
I doubt The Daily Beast is the best source of this information. I'd probably trust greekrank.com as much as this hack of an article.

Quality sisterhood or brotherhood can't be defined by social media followers, quantity of chapters, or famous alumni.
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Old 08-10-2012, 06:20 AM
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I doubt The Daily Beast is the best source of this information. I'd probably trust greekrank.com as much as this hack of an article.

Quality sisterhood or brotherhood can't be defined by social media followers, quantity of chapters, or famous alumni.
I wouldn't gather such information to determine the quality of brotherhood.
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Old 08-09-2012, 06:57 AM
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And they do (in NPC anyway). They know the sizes, philanthropy donation information, scholarship statistics (which is what I would like to see instead of FB and Twitter followers), and recruitment statistics (% of Quota and Total as a whole, not just by chapter). NPC groups share a lot of information with each other.

I'm most bothered by men being ranked by presidents and congress members and women getting ranked by social media followers. Surely college education women can be evaluated on something other than their social media involvement, right? What an insult.
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Old 08-09-2012, 07:41 AM
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I think tracking social media is actually more important than the numbers of Congresspeople. I acknowledge that you feel insulted, though.
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Old 08-09-2012, 08:11 AM
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I have no comment on NPC groups. I'd like to see something for NIC groups though.
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Old 08-09-2012, 10:21 AM
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IMO...

Benchmarking/comparison = good
"Ranking" = not good

I would like to know how my organization stacks up against our peers, but the fact that ODPhi raised $XX while ABC fraternity raised $X for a charity does not mean that we're inherently better.
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Old 08-09-2012, 10:49 AM
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Benchmarking/comparison = good
"Ranking" = not good

I would like to know how my organization stacks up against our peers, but the fact that ODPhi raised $XX while ABC fraternity raised $X for a charity does not mean that we're inherently better.
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Old 08-09-2012, 02:39 PM
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^^^ I agree. And I also agree with AGDee...NPC groups track comparison data. From a business perspective, it's important to know how your organization is tracking compared to others -- to determine if it's healthy, and where improvement efforts/resources may need to be focused.
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