University of Southern California Recruitment Begins

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by 33girl

The sororities still have to vote for extension and if there's a fakishly (is that a word?) low quota, it's not going to sway their vote - they're going to know what's up. Especially the chapter that hasn't been making quota.

True, but it can also help the group not making quota, because quota is even smaller with another chapter present. If a group is stagnant while the big keep getting bigger, it can be worse than if a group is stagnant while the big have levelled off.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

I'm pretty sure the MOI contradicts itself. On page MR-44:

Chapter Eligibility for Quota Additions
• Chapter must have followed the RFM throughout recruitment.
• Chapter must have already filled quota.
• Chapter must be the smallest chapter listed on the PNM’s MRABA.
• Chapter must have the PNM listed on the chapter’s bid list or the
snap bid list.


but also:

Resolved (2007), That in placing Quota Additions, the Release Figure
specialist and the fraternity/sorority advisor shall consider and balance preference
for chapters with smaller total membership, for placing potential new members
with chapters with lower relative recruiting strength, for potential new members'
first choice, for even distribution of potential new members, and for potential new
member position on a chapter's bid list.


Perhaps the latter is more recent, but clearly they say two different things in rapid succession. I am looking at the 2009 version; I don't know if anything has been updated since then.

[gatordeltapgh]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

I'm pretty sure the MOI contradicts itself. On page MR-44:

Perhaps the latter is more recent, but clearly they say two different things in rapid succession. I am looking at the 2009 version; I don't know if anything has been updated since then.

The Manual of Information was updated in 2010 and 2011.

[DubaiSis]

What I get from this? It's up to the person sitting at the keyboard to make the decisions. And relative recruiting strength - according to whom? Going back to Theta at Auburn, since they are relatively new, the person at the keyboard may still be seeing them as the new kid on the block and pushing all QAs their way, even though it's probably much more realistic to spread the QAs more evenly across all the chapters.

But thanks DeltaBetaBaby for the specific text, confusing though it may be.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by DubaiSis

And relative recruiting strength - according to whom?

Relative recruiting strength is an actual number assigned to each chapter for use in RFM. I believe its exact calculation is proprietary, but it is based on the number of invitations accepted in previous years, number of PNM's listing the chapter first on their card, etc.

But yes, the rest of it pretty much says the advisors can make whatever call they want.

[kaeb]

Not all chapters at USC made quota this year. It was a varying number. I don't know why. My best guess is because they didn't know how many girls would drop after pref, but I really have no clue.

Some chapters took more than the upper end of quota + the four "free" juniors. The only reason I can think of for this is that they were under total before formal?

[33girl]

Originally Posted by kaeb

Not all chapters at USC made quota this year. It was a varying number. I don't know why. My best guess is because they didn't know how many girls would drop after pref, but I really have no clue.

Some chapters took more than the upper end of quota + the four "free" juniors. The only reason I can think of for this is that they were under total before formal?

Or else there were quota additions.

[Pearly]

So can anyone share what quota was and how many pledges each chapter took? Also, any word on how informa; recruitment is going for the two chapters involved and when they offer bids? I have heard that quota was 45-50...

[Football Fan]

USC is a private research university located in Los Angeles, just three miles from the downtown civic center. The campus is noted for the many fountains and courtyards with landscaped green spaces shaded by tropical flowering trees, Moreton Figs and eucalyptus. Roses and flower beds dot the pathways.

SC has more international students than any other private university in the U.S. The student body is extremely diverse and over 1,300 high schools were represented in the 2010 entering class from over 100 countries. Many students come from abroad to enroll in the top notch art schools: School of Theatre, School of Architecture, Thornton School of Music and the School of Cinematic Arts.

Pledge classes, in my opinion, are diverse. The question was asked about quota. For some time all the chapters made quota with the exception of one chapter which was near quota. In 2007 a new chapter was added and there are now ten NPC chapters.

It is my understanding quota was 48 for this August. Tri Delta took 50. I looked up quotas for the past four years when pnm numbers were higher. This is just an example how quotas have changed in the last four years: 2008 Q 60-- 2009 Q 51--2010 Q 66 --2011 Q 48.

[DTD Alum]

I have heard the weirdest numbers this year. Tri-Delt 50 and ADPi 64 (ADPi from their national Facebook group), and then an unconfirmed Gamma Phi at 68, with the quota anywhere from 46-48 and at least one group (I know which, just not saying) that didn't make quota, not to mention a couple national groups that seem to have posted the pledge class numbers from every school but USC.

These numbers literally make no sense to me. Tri-Delt's number makes sense if quota was around there, but if the ADPi (nationally verified) and Gamma Phi (not verified) numbers are correct that's not only absurdly high above quota, but also a huge discrepancy between those groups (and those three sororities are almost always around the same size, it's not that Tri Delt is exponentially bigger/smaller than the other two). If anybody knows why these numbers are so ridiculous this year, or they know of numbers from other pledge classes that would help illuminate this situation, I'd be interested to know.

[Football Fan]

DTD alum,
This year there was much more of a range of new member classes. These are the numbers for Tri Delta for the last four years according to my records.

2008 Q 60 DDD 64

2009 Q 51 DDD 62

2010 Q 66 DDD 68 That year there was a record number of pnms.

2011 Q 48 DDD 50

As far as I know Tri Delta is at or above total. I have not spoken to our alumnae advisor this month, so I do not know why there was a range of numbers for chapters. Last year Tri Delta at SC was on the honor list for recruitment from national headquarters. Sorority chapters at SC are long established and many of them consistently receive national recognition from their respective organizations.

Perhaps DukeDG or AZTheta could find out numbers for their chapters.

[AZTheta]

Originally Posted by Football Fan

DTD alum,

Perhaps DukeDG or AZTheta could find out numbers for their chapters.

Just saw this will send out an email to see what I can learn. Not going to get to it until later in the week, have ongoing stuff ongoing. And going. And going.

[amycat412]

I'd like to know as well, because what I'm hearing (not to mention suspecting) just doesn't make any sense for a school that is pretty consistent in terms of #s and chapters and how they recruit.

[SWTXBelle]

Any chance of getting the bid list?

[Football Fan]

Belle,
As far as I recall Panhellenic has never released a bid list at SC.