Joining two sororities?

[naraht]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

That doesn't change the point I was making.

Which was? Are you indicating that all of the fraternities that had some variety of rules limiting membership based on race, ethnicity or religion became fake when they removed them?

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by naraht

Which was? Are you indicating that all of the fraternities that had some variety of rules limiting membership based on race, ethnicity or religion became fake when they removed them?

I was mocking BemoreLXA. According to him, GLOs become 'fake' when they stray from the founders' original vision. I brought up an extreme to show how faulty that statement was.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by BemoreLXA

No, not at all. I feel that I embody all of those aspects and personal attacks do little to bring me down. Regardless, I do have some problems with Warren A. Cole but I put those aside for the good he did for the fraternity

You made a personal attack on any APO chapter that strolls or steps, without knowing whether they bust their butts doing service (which they also usually do). Practice what you preach.

[BemoreLXA]

Originally Posted by 33girl

You made a personal attack on any APO chapter that strolls or steps, without knowing whether they bust their butts doing service (which they also usually do). Practice what you preach.

lol no. You made an Ad hominem attack against me. I didn't exactly do that. I used APO as an example of a service fraternity, which I regret doing since I should of just used generalities or "XYZ fraternity".

sorry

[LikeASista]

Originally Posted by BemoreLXA

This discussion has been pretty de-railed since its an AKA forum, if it were in Greek Life or somewhere else I would continue but I don't want to bring down the AKA's board.

WOW! How noble of you ... Now, how can we get this thread moved?

[naraht]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

I was mocking BemoreLXA. According to him, GLOs become 'fake' when they stray from the founders' original vision. I brought up an extreme to show how faulty that statement was.

OK, missed the mock.

Seriously, I have no idea how many of the members of the NIC had *some* limitations to membership beyond gender at some point in their history. My guess is most of them.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by BemoreLXA

lol no. You made an Ad hominem attack against me. I didn't exactly do that. I used APO as an example of a service fraternity, which I regret doing since I should of just used generalities or "XYZ fraternity".

sorry

Really?

Originally Posted by BemoreLXA

Personally, I wouldn't join a service fraternity that emulated traditional NPHC communities because that just seems pretty phoney

Originally Posted by BemoreLXA

If I was on a campus where APO acted more like a social fraternity than a service fraternity, I wouldn't join APO because they're going against their purpose. That seems fake to me, as if the members couldn't get bids in IFC organizations so they joined something with greek letters. I can see feeling the same way if a service fraternity used a lot of the same symbolism in regards to signs, steps, strolls, etc as a NPHC organization

So yeah, putting aside your regretted use of APO as an example, you basically said any service fraternity chapter that strolls or steps is, in your opinion, "phoney" and "fake," with members who probably joined just to get Greek letters.

[BluPhire]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Really?



So yeah, putting aside your regretted use of APO as an example, you basically said any service fraternity chapter that strolls or steps is, in your opinion, "phoney" and "fake," with members who probably joined just to get Greek letters.

In a word, that is what he is saying.

And many would agree, I believe we had plenty of threads that discussed that same issue. Not necessarily a service fraternity, but even NIC's founded on HBCU campuses have run into that issue.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by BluPhire

In a word, that is what he is saying.

And many would agree, I believe we had plenty of threads that discussed that same issue. Not necessarily a service fraternity, but even NIC's founded on HBCU campuses have run into that issue.

And not just service and NIC fraternities.

We have indeed had that discussion before, and I know that there are many who would agree, or at least have some problem with non-NPHC orgs "appropriating" NPHC traditions. I understand that.

What I don't understand is someone like BemoreLXA/Phi_Delta/408 saying it and then basically denying he disparaged other orgs.

[naraht]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

And not just service and NIC fraternities.

We have indeed had that discussion before, and I know that there are many who would agree, or at least have some problem with non-NPHC orgs "appropriating" NPHC traditions. I understand that.

What I don't understand is someone like BemoreLXA/Phi_Delta/408 saying it and then basically denying he disparaged other orgs.

Hmm. I know of NIC, APO & GSS (Service), KKY &TBS (Band), and various Latino groups (both male and female) and I *think* religious (Alpha Nu Omega Fraternity and Sorority). Haven't heard of any NPC sororities that do stepping, but the day is still young.

Agreed on BemoreLXA.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by naraht

Hmm. I know of NIC, APO & GSS (Service), KKY &TBS (Band), and various Latino groups (both male and female) and I *think* religious (Alpha Nu Omega Fraternity and Sorority). Haven't heard of any NPC sororities that do stepping, but the day is still young.

Agreed on BemoreLXA.

Let's not forget Zeta Tau Alpha at Arkansas.

Or do you mean as a whole?

[BluPhire]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Let's not forget Zeta Tau Alpha at Arkansas.

Or do you mean as a whole?

*** Closing Piano***

Time to go.

LOL

[naraht]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Let's not forget Zeta Tau Alpha at Arkansas.

Or do you mean as a whole?

No, I meant individually, and I had *completely* forgotten about the ZTAs at Arkansas.

Let's see, I think that leaves just the Honoraries as not having stepped. Anyone got a good video of a Tau Beta Pi chapter stepping?

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by BluPhire

*** Closing Piano***

Time to go.

LOL

Because the thread wasn't already messy enough lol

[BluPhire]

Originally Posted by naraht

No, I meant individually, and I had *completely* forgotten about the ZTAs at Arkansas.

Let's see, I think that leaves just the Honoraries as not having stepped. Anyone got a good video of a Tau Beta Pi chapter stepping?

Nope, but I got one just as interesting.

LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYjpp...1F993&index=17