Racism at Ole Miss or Bama??

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by als463

I think cursing at both the OP and Pika2001 are unacceptable and far from calm, to get his point across. I'm not really getting too excited about it, I just recognize that this guy is freaking out on someone he doesn't even know. I really don't care much about this Que, that much and wouldn't base my opinion of Ques on this one jackass. Whether you agree with someone else or not doesn't mean (especially after 6 posts) that you have the right to ridicule or belittle someone as if you own the place. It's tacky-regardless of what the subject may be.

I cuss all of the time to get my point across. Get over it.

You called him a jackass to get your point across and he wasn't even typing to you. Get over it.

[Alumiyum]

As rebelgirl pointed out, you're competing with women that have tons of connections, recs, and even coaches. So concentrate on your grades, your conversation skills, your resume, etc. Practice having conversations with people you don't know, because you'll be doing a lot of that during recruitment. GET RECS.

But first, concentrate on getting in. You're going to college to get a degree...everything else is secondary.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

It's awesome that you think it's cool and that he should be happy to be Black. Whoa. Thanks for the approval. Sure.

PincGator Que already said that he wasn't offended by what she said. He's simply opinionated over what she says. But I realize that Black people can't have an opinion on topics pertaining to race without being told we are getting all butt hurt.

HA, you are really one of a kind special Dr. Phil! Yes I think everyone should be happy with who they are and comfortable in their own skin. I was just commenting how the guy had to post how happy he was to be black (was THAT necessary?) and make mention how she posted her AA-ness last. Would it have made that much of a difference had she said she was African-American/Irish/Dutch?

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Let the record show that PiKA2001 is making more of a fuss than Que ever was. I am also not surprised that PiKA2001 missed the point completely.

Also, if the OP didn't identify (or physically look like) as Black or any other racial and ethnic minority then she wouldn't have brought her behind to GC to ask this question. She would've gone with the flow and to see how well she can mesh, just as many nonwhites who are technically racial and ethnic minorities do. These nonwhites receive the "what are you" question quite often and are able to assimilate quite well because people can't readily figure out "what they are"...and then they go home to their Black, Native American, Hispanic, etc. families.

No fuss over here. I found the OP to be a tad ridiculous and very naive so I never responded to her post, it was PincGator's posts I was responding to.

And for the bolded, you really don't know that. This girl seems to identify as white as well as having the assumption that in order to get into a house at Bama or Ol Miss you must be blonde haired, blue eyes and lilly white. Who knows what her reasoning is.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

And for the bolded, you really don't know that. This girl seems to identify as white as well as having the assumption that in order to get into a house at Bama or Ol Miss you must be blonde haired, blue eyes and lilly white.

There ya go, finally! She perhaps identifies as white but perhaps doesn't feel as though she's white enough. Color Complex 101.

So, you do get the point that PincGatorQue and the rest of us are making. *whew*

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

There ya go, finally! She perhaps identifies as white but perhaps doesn't feel as though she's white enough. Color Complex 101.

So, you do get the point that PincGatorQue and the rest of us are making. *whew*

I saw it as, "I'm part Black, but I'm not like the rest of them! Really I'm not!" Just another Sarah Jane moment waiting to happen.

LOL at people calling Ole Miss and Bama competitive admissions-wise. Yeah, I'm a college admissions snob and a sorority snob and I love it.

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

I saw it as, "I'm part Black, but I'm not like the rest of them! Really I'm not!" Just another Sarah Jane moment waiting to happen.

Siudenote: I LOVE this movie with every fiber of my being. I'm one of those people who is a complete blubbering fool for about the last half hour.

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

I saw it as, "I'm part Black, but I'm not like the rest of them! Really I'm not!" Just another Sarah Jane moment waiting to happen.

lol but awwww

[SouthernBelle93]

Alright, I really don't know how to respond to a lot of these post, but I'm going to try.

1. I do not have a color complex.
2. I am really happy with who I am as a person.
3. I am in no way shape or form was I trying to come off like I wish I were white, I appreciate diversity and I like being different.
4. Obviously I do not know how to post..this was my first time and a lot of the things I said came out very wrong. How I was trying to say things is being twisted into something completely different than I meant.
5. Yes, I am a senior in high school and I don't think I am naive but I am well aware of the fact that I have many things to learn still.
6. I am sorry so many people are getting this upset over what I posted, but I honestly just wanted to know how difficult it was going to be getting into the sororities and I think I got my answer. difficult but not impossible.
7. I did assume that you had to look a certain way to be accepted into any of the houses but i knew other factors would go into getting a bid as well.
8. Yes i live in california now but I have visited the south before and I liked it a lot, aside from the humidity.

Hopefully everyone will calm down a little considering I meant no harm and was not trying to offend ANYONE.

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by SouthernBelle93

Alright, I really don't know how to respond to a lot of these post, but I'm going to try.

1. I do not have a color complex.
2. I am really happy with who I am as a person.
3. I am in no way shape or form was I trying to come off like I wish I were white, I appreciate diversity and I like being different.
4. Obviously I do not know how to post..this was my first time and a lot of the things I said came out very wrong. How I was trying to say things is being twisted into something completely different than I meant.
5. Yes, I am a senior in high school and I don't think I am naive but I am well aware of the fact that I have many things to learn still.
6. I am sorry so many people are getting this upset over what I posted, but I honestly just wanted to know how difficult it was going to be getting into the sororities and I think I got my answer. difficult but not impossible.
7. I did assume that you had to look a certain way to be accepted into any of the houses but i knew other factors would go into getting a bid as well.
8. Yes i live in california now but I have visited the south before and I liked it a lot, aside from the humidity.

Hopefully everyone will calm down a little considering I meant no harm and was not trying to offend ANYONE.

People can get a little riled up here. Don't worry about it.

It appears from the posts such as rebelgirl's that what you need to focus on is your grades, recs, resume, and conversation skills as those things will be the most important determining factors. Concentrate on making the best grades you can the rest of this year, and start looking for recs. Use opportunities that you come across to practice small talk with strangers and acquaintances so that you'll appear confident and competent during parties (this is a good skill to develop for anyone, as it will certainly come in handy on many occasions besides recruitment).

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by SouthernBelle93

Hopefully everyone will calm down a little considering I meant no harm and was not trying to offend ANYONE.

I wasn't offended; this is just a pretty common post topic we see around here. There's one a few months ago, and it might behoove you to read that one as well. I'm Black, and I joined an NPC sorority in college; my experience was very different because I came from the South and joined a chapter in New England. (For example, my chapter got my recs and didn't know what to do with them!)

Just read a few more of the threads that KSUViolet06 linked to. If you have other questions that aren't answered, then totally feel free to ask them. The "I'm a black girl, can I fit into an NPC chapter?" is a trope to which many of us are inured and answering it over and over can make us punchy.

Good luck!

[SouthernBelle93]

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

People can get a little riled up here. Don't worry about it.

It appears from the posts such as rebelgirl's that what you need to focus on is your grades, recs, resume, and conversation skills as those things will be the most important determining factors. Concentrate on making the best grades you can the rest of this year, and start looking for recs. Use opportunities that you come across to practice small talk with strangers and acquaintances so that you'll appear confident and competent during parties (this is a good skill to develop for anyone, as it will certainly come in handy on many occasions besides recruitment).

Thank you !
I am most likely going to get a rush advisor to help me out through this. I have pretty good grades and I am extremely involved in my community as well as my school so I have more than enough on my resume. The only thing I am worried about is finding people to write my recs. I am the first person in my family who actually wants to go greek and I do not know anyone who is greek other than my friends who just got through rush this year, and are being initiated these next coming weekends.

[DrPhil]

Yeah, this isn't an offensive topic. It is a typical topic. That little girl needs to calm down herself and figure out some things about herself before she even worries about Greekdom. That's my advice.

[SouthernBelle93]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

I wasn't offended; this is just a pretty common post topic we see around here. There's one a few months ago, and it might behoove you to read that one as well. I'm Black, and I joined an NPC sorority in college; my experience was very different because I came from the South and joined a chapter in New England. (For example, my chapter got my recs and didn't know what to do with them!)

Just read a few more of the threads that KSUViolet06 linked to. If you have other questions that aren't answered, then totally feel free to ask them. The "I'm a black girl, can I fit into an NPC chapter?" is a trope to which many of us are inured and answering it over and over can make us punchy.

Good luck!

Okay good (: As i said before I have never been on this site before and I didnt even think to search for post similar to what i was asking. I will look now though!

Thank you (:

[SouthernBelle93]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Yeah, this isn't an offensive topic. It is a typical topic. That little girl needs to calm down herself and figure out some things about herself before she even worries about Greekdom. That's my advice.

I have no idea as to why you are such an angry post-er but I do not need you to refer to me as a "little girl," nor do I need your nasty words of "advice."

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by SouthernBelle93

Thank you !
I am most likely going to get a rush advisor to help me out through this. I have pretty good grades and I am extremely involved in my community as well as my school so I have more than enough on my resume. The only thing I am worried about is finding people to write my recs. I am the first person in my family who actually wants to go greek and I do not know anyone who is greek other than my friends who just got through rush this year, and are being initiated these next coming weekends.

Ask women you know like teachers, people you volunteer with, and people at any religious organization you belong to. You'll be surprised, because you'll encounter some sorority women. Try searching through this site, too using the search function. There are a lot of useful threads about recs. Good luck!