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Old 09-09-2010, 03:58 PM
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Old 09-09-2010, 03:59 PM
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THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.

BUT I'VE HEARD THE ARGUEMENT THAT IT POTENTIALLY VIOLATES THE HOMELAND SECURITY ACTS BECAUSE IT WILL INCITE TERRORISM. I THINK THAT ARGUMENT IS SPECULATIVE AT BEST AND WOULDN'T HOLD MUCH WATER.
I think the Gov see inciting terrorism as someone who preaches on a street corner for people to blow themselves up in shopping malls or schools, not someone burning books.

I know that the burning of crosses are illegal because it's commonly used for racial intimidation, so could the burning of religious texts be considered religious intimidation? Are there laws to protect religious intimidation as there are to protect people from racial intimidation?
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Old 09-09-2010, 04:00 PM
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GO TO HELL, STARANG21. LOL.

IT DOESN'T VIOLATE HOMELAND SECURITY ACTS. THE MEDIA COVERAGE IS WHY THIS HAS RECEIVED SO MUCH ATTENTION AND OFFENDED THE MASSES. BLAME THE MEDIA FOR EVEN ALERTING THE TERRORISTS. IF IT THIS PREACHER WAS VIOLATING A LAW, THERE WOULD BE NOTHING FOR PEOPLE TO TALK ABOUT ANYMORE BECAUSE THAT NOBODY "PREACHER" WHO CAN BARELY TALK WOULD BE GETTING HIS ASS KICKED BY THE GUBMENT.
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Old 09-09-2010, 04:07 PM
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I think the Gov see inciting terrorism as someone who preaches on a street corner for people to blow themselves up in shopping malls or schools, not someone burning books.

I know that the burning of crosses are illegal because it's commonly used for racial intimidation, so could the burning of religious texts be considered religious intimidation? Are there laws to protect religious intimidation as there are to protect people from racial intimidation?
That's racial intimidation of a minority group and the religious symbol is a mechanism. Hate crime legislation has yet to cover everything that idiots can possibly think of and particularly acts based on religion. The connection would have to be made between religion and minority group status. Being Middle Eastern is a racial and ethnic minority status and being of the Islamic faith is sometimes consider a religious minority status. However, in examining the motive behind this man's stupidity, religious and ethnic intimidation can be overshadowed by his claim that he's speaking out against Islamic extremism.

Afterall, people burn, throw, or tear up religious texts relatively often depending on where you are. It is sometimes all a matter of how it's received.

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Old 09-09-2010, 04:32 PM
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Is the capslock key broken on your work computer? You should call IT.
no, i just didn't feel like taking it off.
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Old 09-09-2010, 04:34 PM
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GO TO HELL, STARANG21. LOL.

IT DOESN'T VIOLATE HOMELAND SECURITY ACTS. THE MEDIA COVERAGE IS WHY THIS HAS RECEIVED SO MUCH ATTENTION AND OFFENDED THE MASSES. BLAME THE MEDIA FOR EVEN ALERTING THE TERRORISTS. IF IT THIS PREACHER WAS VIOLATING A LAW, THERE WOULD BE NOTHING FOR PEOPLE TO TALK ABOUT ANYMORE BECAUSE THAT NOBODY "PREACHER" WHO CAN BARELY TALK WOULD BE GETTING HIS ASS KICKED BY THE GUBMENT.
yea, i figured it's a pretty weak argument.
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Old 09-09-2010, 04:35 PM
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I've heard this, but haven't gotten any actual confirmation: is it true that the guy said that, if people did die, it would be "tragical"? Who does he think he is, Flavor Flav?
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Old 09-09-2010, 05:38 PM
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Sorry to disappoint...the bookburning has been canceled.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/09/09/flo...pt=T1&iref=BN1
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Old 09-09-2010, 06:33 PM
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dammit and here was buying some gasoline and matches
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Old 09-09-2010, 06:38 PM
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I predicted this.

I'm annoyed that it was BREAKING NEWS on CNN. They had the nerve to have the awesome Donna Brazile on there to talk about this dumbass.

Dumbass pastor's mission was accomplished. People may not know his dumbass name but they know his dumbass existence. What's next for the dumbass?
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Old 09-09-2010, 06:49 PM
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I predicted this.

I'm annoyed that it was BREAKING NEWS on CNN. They had the nerve to have the awesome Donna Brazile on there to talk about this dumbass.

Dumbass pastor's mission was accomplished. People may not know his dumbass name but they know his dumbass existence. What's next for the dumbass?
I NEVER thought he was going to do it. I predicted it too. lol


Well now Pastor Phelps has stated that HE will do it.

http://www.ocala.com/article/2010090...f-Dove-doesn-t


QOTD: "WBC burned the Koran once – and if you sissy brats of Doomed america bully Terry Jones and the Dove World Outreach Center until they change their plans to burn that blasphemous tripe called the Koran, then WBC will burn it (again), to clearly show you some things"
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Old 09-09-2010, 06:54 PM
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I NEVER thought he was going to do it. I predicted it too. lol


Well now Pastor Phelps has stated that HE will do it.

http://www.ocala.com/article/2010090...f-Dove-doesn-t


QOTD: "WBC burned the Koran once – and if you sissy brats of Doomed america bully Terry Jones and the Dove World Outreach Center until they change their plans to burn that blasphemous tripe called the Koran, then WBC will burn it (again), to clearly show you some things"

Goodness gracious, great balls of fire.

I had to type that.
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Old 09-09-2010, 07:23 PM
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Phelps is just jealous cuz there is another crazed preacher stealing his controversy.
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Old 09-09-2010, 07:38 PM
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I NEVER thought he was going to do it. I predicted it too. lol


Well now Pastor Phelps has stated that HE will do it.

http://www.ocala.com/article/2010090...f-Dove-doesn-t


QOTD: "WBC burned the Koran once – and if you sissy brats of Doomed america bully Terry Jones and the Dove World Outreach Center until they change their plans to burn that blasphemous tripe called the Koran, then WBC will burn it (again), to clearly show you some things"
i actually think this dude will do it.
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Old 09-09-2010, 08:05 PM
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I think the Gov see inciting terrorism as someone who preaches on a street corner for people to blow themselves up in shopping malls or schools, not someone burning books.

I know that the burning of crosses are illegal because it's commonly used for racial intimidation, so could the burning of religious texts be considered religious intimidation? Are there laws to protect religious intimidation as there are to protect people from racial intimidation?
Since pretty much everything else has been addressed. I think it's actually perfectly legal to burn a cross on your own property. (Assuming you have burn permits depending on your locale I suppose.) It's burning it on other people's front lawns or public property that would be an issue for all the reasons discussed.
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