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DaemonSeid 09-08-2010 09:24 AM

...and this dumb @ss wants to burn the Quran.
 
By MITCH STACY, Associated Press Writer Mitch Stacy, Associated Press Writer – 3 mins ago
GAINESVILLE, Fla. – The leader of a small Florida church that espouses anti-Islam philosophy said Wednesday he was determined to go through with his plan to burn copies of the Quran on Sept. 11, despite pressure from the White House, religious leaders and others to call it off.

"We are still determined to it, yes," the Rev. Terry Jones told the CBS Early Show.

Jones says he has received more than 100 death threats and has started wearing a .40-caliber pistol strapped to his hip since announcing his plan to burn the book Muslims consider the word of God and insist be treated with the utmost respect. The 58-year-old minister proclaimed in July that he would stage "International Burn-a-Quran Day."

Supporters have been mailing copies of the holy text to his Gainesville church of about 50 followers to be incinerated in a bonfire on Saturday to mark the ninth anniversary of the 9/11 attacks.

Gen. David Petraeus took the rare step of a military leader taking a position on a domestic matter when he warned in an e-mail to The Associated Press that "images of the burning of a Quran would undoubtedly be used by extremists in Afghanistan — and around the world — to inflame public opinion and incite violence."

Gen. Ray Odierno, the former top commander in Iraq, said Wednesday he fears that extremists will use the incident to sow hatred against U.S. troops overseas.

"This feeds right into what they want," Odierno said on NBC's "Today Show. Odierno now heads of U.S. Joint Forces Command.

Jones responded that he is also concerned but is "wondering, 'When do we stop?'" He refused to cancel the protest at his Dove World Outreach Center but said he was still praying about it.

"How much do we back down? How many times do we back down?" Jones told the AP. "Instead of us backing down, maybe it's time to stand up. Maybe it's time to send a message to radical Islam that we will not tolerate their behavior."**

Jones gained some local notoriety last year when he posted signs in front of his church declaring "Islam is of the Devil." But his Quran-burning idea attracted wider attention. It drew rebukes from Muslim nations and at home as an emotional debate was taking shape over the proposed Islamic center near the ground zero site of the 2001 terrorist attacks in New York.

His actions most likely would be protected by the First Amendment's right to free speech. The U.S. Supreme Court has made clear in several landmark rulings that speech deemed offensive to many people, even the majority of people, cannot be suppressed by the government unless it is clearly directed to intimidate someone or amounts to an incitement to violence, legal experts said.

The fire department has denied Jones a required burn permit, but he said lawyers have told him he has the right to burn the Qurans, with or without the city's permission.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/quran_burning?ref=nf

**If he gets killed doing this, I would applaud if someone says,

"Maybe it's time to send a message to radical Christianity that we will not tolerate their behavior."


Thank you Mr. Jones for doing something so absolutely assinine that others may die for your ignorance.

Animate 09-08-2010 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1980477)
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/quran_burning?ref=nf

**If he gets killed doing this, I would applaud if someone says,

"Maybe it's time to send a message to radical Christianity that we will not tolerate their behavior."


Thank you Mr. Jones for doing something so absolutely assinine that others may die for your ignorance.

That's a very small if...

AOII Angel 09-08-2010 10:19 AM

The book burning idea just kills me. Really? Isn't that something the Nazis advocated?

DaemonSeid 09-08-2010 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel (Post 1980493)
The book burning idea just kills me. Really? Isn't that something the Nazis advocated?

You read my mind.

That's another way this could be taken out of context by extremists.

33girl 09-08-2010 10:21 AM

I really want Terry Jones from Monty Python to come out and tell this asshole to stop using HIS name. Or else burn something else that starts with Q, like a quince, to show how idiotic this is.

cheerfulgreek 09-08-2010 10:51 AM

yawn

Nanners52674 09-08-2010 11:30 AM

I'm so bothered by this and I really hope it doesn't negatively impact the troops in Afghanistan.

DrPhil 09-08-2010 11:32 AM

He got what he wanted: attention and outcry

BluPhire 09-08-2010 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil (Post 1980522)
He got what he wanted: attention and outcry

and a .40 caliber pistol.

Alumiyum 09-08-2010 12:38 PM

I'm all for free speech, but this is just stupid. It's also NOT what Jesus would do.

The irony is that radical Christians are speaking out against radical Muslims, yet they don't recognize they're in the same end of the spectrum, just of a different religion.

DaemonSeid 09-08-2010 12:38 PM

If he had any balls he would burn pictures of Mohammed.

DubaiSis 09-08-2010 12:46 PM

I'm wondering if these people know that Jesus is mentioned (and glorified) in the Qu'ran 29 times. And Mary is mentioned, also as a prophet, 34 times. Why do these people hate Jesus?

But this asshat isn't concerned with logic, spiritualism or dogma. He just wants his 15 minutes, even if it means death and destruction for years to come. And the US can pride itself on being a country that burns a holy book.

Alumiyum 09-08-2010 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DubaiSis (Post 1980542)
I'm wondering if these people know that Jesus is mentioned (and glorified) in the Qu'ran 29 times. And Mary is mentioned, also as a prophet, 34 times. Why do these people hate Jesus?

But this asshat isn't concerned with logic, spiritualism or dogma. He just wants his 15 minutes, even if it means death and destruction for years to come. And the US can pride itself on being a country that burns a holy book.

Not to mention, it isn't the Qu'ran that's the problem, it's a specific kind of people that use it to their own means...just like he is now doing with the Bible. Religion can be bent to fit an agenda.

VandalSquirrel 09-08-2010 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DubaiSis (Post 1980542)
I'm wondering if these people know that Jesus is mentioned (and glorified) in the Qu'ran 29 times. And Mary is mentioned, also as a prophet, 34 times. Why do these people hate Jesus?

But this asshat isn't concerned with logic, spiritualism or dogma. He just wants his 15 minutes, even if it means death and destruction for years to come. And the US can pride itself on being a country that burns a holy book.

The lack of knowledge about the similarities and shared places and people throughout Judaism, Christianity, and Islam of the majority of Americans blows my mind. The Angel Gabriel mentioned in all those faiths? Same Angel Gabriel folks. He has a place in other faiths too, Mormons and Baha'is reference him, and depending on where one places them in a religious category that falls into the faiths above.

ree-Xi 09-08-2010 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel (Post 1980603)
The lack of knowledge about the similarities and shared places and people throughout Judaism, Christianity, and Islam of the majority of Americans blows my mind. The Angel Gabriel mentioned in all those faiths? Same Angel Gabriel folks. He has a place in other faiths too, Mormons and Baha'is reference him, and depending on where one places them in a religious category that falls into the faiths above.

THANK you.


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