Sorority Expansion

[33girl]

Originally Posted by PKTsaluki

But the main purpose as to why I think it would be nice to have more NPC chapter at SIUC is to help our Greek Systems competition scale get better and involve more participation from chapters who do not participate because they do not have a partner. We have 1 big all Greek competition every semester First semester Homecoming, and second semester its the Theta Xi Variety Show. It's always the same three fraternities and the sororities.

Our fraternities get extremely discouraged to participate in any event if they do not get teamed up with a sorority and it makes our Greek community look sad in front of the school when the school is now finally giving more support to us since we have not had any real major incident since 2004.

As VP said - pair multiple fraternities with a sorority. The girls will be a hell of a lot happier, trust me. If the fraternities are that much smaller, it won't be a sausage fest. Also, if the sororities are picking the same fraternities all the time, the other guys need to either step up their game or say "screw it" and go watch a Monty Python marathon.

CFF - the Panhel needs to get in touch with their area advisor ASAP to fix the total issues, etc. Does the Greek advisor know what he/she is doing or are they part of the problem?

Is there any way the Greek houses could be duplexed (for lack of a better word) until the new housing gets built? It definitely sounds like that is a big part of the problem.

This is all sadly familiar.

ETA:

Originally Posted by ree-Xi

What are the circumstances regarding all of these chapters? (Not expecting absolute answers, but it's something to think about.)

I just looked at irishpipes' rush thread. Of the cited 5 sorority chapters that have closed, 2 were only open for a minute in the 1970s (many chapters at many schools were only open for a minute in the 1970s) and the other was open for 2 minutes in the 1980s, and I'm guessing was chartered as a sorority appealing to a certain group. Within the past 15 years, they've lost 2 chapters, which really isn't anything outside the norm IMO.

[PKTsaluki]

The bad week as I have stated may have come around the time of the Theta Xi variety show which normally afterwords brings out the worse from a lot of the house and shows peoples true colors to one another just because of the letters they wear.

Also when Tri Sigma tried to recolonize, they only got nine girls during an informal rush during second semester when maybe a total of 20 girls try and rush each house. They could have been more successful if they waited until Fall 2009 to recruit which they did not.

Our Greek system is still recovering, and with the expansion of IFC fraternities being allowed to come in and leave whenever they would like is allowed. It's not my fault in the early 2000's those 3 successful chapters that got kicked off for poor grades and excessive partying to one fraternity having a nightmare in a poor pledge ship program.

But getting back to my main point. After talking with all the greek advisors at my school, they have told me that they are still continuing trying to get another NPC chapter on campus before the new Greek Row gets built. It's been a hassle for them because of the amount of paperwork apparently or something to that extent.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by PKTsaluki

The bad week as I have stated may have come around the time of the Theta Xi variety show which normally afterwords brings out the worse from a lot of the house and shows peoples true colors to one another just because of the letters they wear.

Also when Tri Sigma tried to recolonize, they only got nine girls during an informal rush during second semester when maybe a total of 20 girls try and rush each house. They could have been more successful if they waited until Fall 2009 to recruit which they did not.

Our Greek system is still recovering, and with the expansion of IFC fraternities being allowed to come in and leave whenever they would like is allowed. It's not my fault in the early 2000's those 3 successful chapters that got kicked off for poor grades and excessive partying to one fraternity having a nightmare in a poor pledge ship program.

But getting back to my main point. After talking with all the greek advisors at my school, they have told me that they are still continuing trying to get another NPC chapter on campus before the new Greek Row gets built. It's been a hassle for them because of the amount of paperwork apparently or something to that extent.

You really have no way to know the bolded. Recolonizations can go wrong, but these people have more experience than you do.

[ree-Xi]

Originally Posted by PKTsaluki

The bad week as I have stated may have come around the time of the Theta Xi variety show which normally afterwords brings out the worse from a lot of the house and shows peoples true colors to one another just because of the letters they wear.

Also when Tri Sigma tried to recolonize, they only got nine girls during an informal rush during second semester when maybe a total of 20 girls try and rush each house. They could have been more successful if they waited until Fall 2009 to recruit which they did not.

Our Greek system is still recovering, and with the expansion of IFC fraternities being allowed to come in and leave whenever they would like is allowed. It's not my fault in the early 2000's those 3 successful chapters that got kicked off for poor grades and excessive partying to one fraternity having a nightmare in a poor pledge ship program.

But getting back to my main point. After talking with all the greek advisors at my school, they have told me that they are still continuing trying to get another NPC chapter on campus before the new Greek Row gets built. It's been a hassle for them because of the amount of paperwork apparently or something to that extent.

Does that not scream out at you? If the animosity for each other was that obvious - that visitors the university witnessed it (and I'm guessing that they were only there during the school week, and probably only on campus during the daytime) - it has to be pretty severe.

You said that they showed their "true colors". What did the students do? Fight? Vandalize property? What did the delegates witness?

[AlwaysSAI]

Originally Posted by ree-Xi

A dissertation on the early years of the NPC would be a great read!

I second that!

[Drolefille]

No sign of the NPC dissertation, no idea if that's because it isn't done yet or it isn't there. Get me a name and I'll take a look

[33girl]

Originally Posted by PKTsaluki

Also when Tri Sigma tried to recolonize, they only got nine girls during an informal rush during second semester when maybe a total of 20 girls try and rush each house. They could have been more successful if they waited until Fall 2009 to recruit which they did not.

This is exactly what a chapter trying to recolonize at my school did - they recruited during a formal rush period with the rest of the groups. So basically what happened is the rushees went from roomfuls of 18-21 year olds looking cute and singing songs and talking about mixers and other fun things, to a roomful of 25+ year old alumnae (many of whom weren't even from the campus) telling them about all the work they would have to do to build up a new chapter.

EPIC FAIL doesn't even begin to cover it and I really wish I knew what that group's HQ was smoking when they dreamed this plan up.

Girls going through regular formal rush are not necessarily the girls who want to be part of a colony. It's a LOT of work and that's why sorority colonies-to-be generally have one day at the beginning of formal rush to announce their presence and then bow out. All Tri Sigma would have accomplished if they did what you propose is probably wasting a lot more money on decorations and such.

[knight_shadow]

Still wondering why a FRATERNITY MEMBER is worrying about SORORITY affairs.

Like NPC members (or Greeks, for that matter) are the ONLY people to mix with.

Keep it moving, kid...

[Cruise4fun]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Still wondering why a FRATERNITY MEMBER is worrying about SORORITY affairs.

Like NPC members (or Greeks, for that matter) are the ONLY people to mix with.

Keep it moving, kid...

Thank you!

The campus needs at least another year of stable NPC recruitment results. In addition, this campus holds fall formal recruitment and partially structured informal recruitment in the spring. Membership recruitment and retention aren't enough to maintain chapter totals. This type of recruitment structure is draining as the chapters do not have as much chance to work on sisterhood (which would probably help with retention).

It is very possible to pair two fraternities with one sorority for homecoming and the variety show. It was a great deal of fun the year we won with LXA and Theta Xi. It really helps with expenses too. The sororities just need to have a heart to heart with fraternities and tell them to put on their big boy pants.

[Titchou]

Originally Posted by 33girl

This is exactly what a chapter trying to recolonize at my school did - they recruited during a formal rush period with the rest of the groups. So basically what happened is the rushees went from roomfuls of 18-21 year olds looking cute and singing songs and talking about mixers and other fun things, to a roomful of 25+ year old alumnae (many of whom weren't even from the campus) telling them about all the work they would have to do to build up a new chapter.

EPIC FAIL doesn't even begin to cover it and I really wish I knew what that group's HQ was smoking when they dreamed this plan up.

Girls going through regular formal rush are not necessarily the girls who want to be part of a colony. It's a LOT of work and that's why sorority colonies-to-be generally have one day at the beginning of formal rush to announce their presence and then bow out. All Tri Sigma would have accomplished if they did what you propose is probably wasting a lot more money on decorations and such.

That's how most colonizations are done. Interviews are conducted by a team of alumnae (old and new) and then another chapter is brought in to do a pref or other party. Very standard procedure.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Titchou

That's how most colonizations are done. Interviews are conducted by a team of alumnae (old and new) and then another chapter is brought in to do a pref or other party. Very standard procedure.

Yes, but they usually do it AFTER formal rush. This was running at exactly the same time, as if the colonization team was an active chapter. It's not the sort of school where the majority of people are familiar with how Greek life runs anyway, and many people sign up for rush at the last minute, so I'm sure that rushees walked into the room and saw women their mom's or aunt's age and said "WTF??"