Pledging a Transgender Sudent? Title IX?

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by atoheadlines

Greek organizations were founded by Christian students.

Except of course for the ones that weren't, like Alpha Epsilon Pi, Delta Sigma Phi, Delta Phi Epsilon, Phi Sigma Sigma, Sigma Alpha Mu . . . .

Every single organizations mentions God in something about them or why they were founded.

No, they don't.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by atoheadlines

Greek organizations were founded by Christian students. Every single organizations mentions God in something about them or why they were founded.

I'm only here to laugh at this. Let's pretend that all of these organizations were founded by students who happen to be Christian. Pretend. Does that mean that the organizations were founded based on Christian principles? Also, are Christians the only ones who would mention God in "something about them?" Is a belief in God the only thing that makes Christians Christian?

I swear you other religions/faiths are some Godless creatures. I rebuke thee.

[atoheadlines]

Shadow TKE was founded at a religious college. KA says for the love of women and God in their motto. There are dozens founded at Christian women schools. ATO history:founded to form a Christian bond between men.


Your founders aren't dead I hope unless by some gang driveby since it was founded in 87'.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by atoheadlines

Shadow TKE was founded at a religious college. KA says for the love of women and God in their motto. There are dozens founded at Christian women schools. ATO history:founded to form a Christian bond between men.


Your founders aren't dead I hope unless by some gang driveby since it was founded in 87'.

You are truly an a$$. Go away.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by atoheadlines

Shadow TKE was founded at a religious college. KA says for the love of women and God in their motto. There are dozens founded at Christian women schools. ATO history:founded to form a Christian bond between men.


Your founders aren't dead I hope unless by some gang driveby since it was founded in 87'.

TKE, KA, ATO. Three whole organizations that are clearly representative of EVERY GLO in existence.

And your attempt at humor was weak.

[dreamseeker]

^^^ luuuurve the new siggy.

[dreamseeker]

Originally Posted by atoheadlines

Every single organizations mentions God in something about them or why they were founded.

i just saw this. this is such a stupid thing to say because i KNOW you don't know the history of every org out there.
i would say that you need to expand your world to more than NPC/IFC but it's more accurate to say the three orgs you listed.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by dreamseeker

^^^ luuuurve the new siggy.

I saw it on a friend's facebook and chuckled.

One of his friends posted a comment that said something like "I know what you mean. I always wake up lying in a pool of swag" lol

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by atoheadlines

Shadow TKE was founded at a religious college. KA says for the love of women and God in their motto. There are dozens founded at Christian women schools. ATO history:founded to form a Christian bond between men.


Your founders aren't dead I hope unless by some gang driveby since it was founded in 87'.

I do believe ATO's founders and my founder fought in the Civil War, were generally pro-slavery, etc. Both of our organizations kept blacks out until the 1960s. Sigma Nu, not until 1968.

To pretend that intake policies of any organization founded over 100 years ago would be approved of by the founders is just ignorant. If you're wanting to use your founders' values to cover up for your own prejudices, you lose.

[Prettyface08]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

How so? I want to see how your dumb ass tries to elaborate.

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Random undergraduate knows any and everything about everyone's' organizations. Nice.

I hope my founders (alive) don't roll in their gaves over this comment.

ETA:

I am so ashamed to admit that you are my favorite, because I hate you SO Much LOL!!!

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by dreamseeker

i would say that you need to expand your world to more than NPC/IFC but it's more accurate to say the three orgs you listed.

Actually, he's still at the elementary school stage where he just needs to expand his world to the NPC/IFC world. So far, his ignorance even of that world is significant.

Originally Posted by Kevin

I do believe ATO's founders and my founder fought in the Civil War, were generally pro-slavery, etc. Both of our organizations kept blacks out until the 1960s. Sigma Nu, not until 1968.

To pretend that intake policies of any organization founded over 100 years ago would be approved of by the founders is just ignorant. If you're wanting to use your founders' values to cover up for your own prejudices, you lose.

This.

[atoheadlines]

How about everyone here stop pretending to be so excepting (you wouldn't go Greek if you were all about fairness and equality), how you are chosen to belong to the organization you are in isn't based on fairness or equality. You will say oh they deserve a chance in life it isn't their fault they are transexual. That is called hypocracy, you can't support something if you wouldn't do it yourself. You all know none of your organizations would take a transexual person. I don't really care if they were pro-slavery, it was wrong but that was the time period. I don't believe the Greek organizations we know were founded by athetist orgie inbreds. They sure weren't people who were transexual. Fraternities and Sororities, the ones that were founded over a 100 years ago stand for good moral values and ethics, that is not what a transexual represents. I don't care if they have their dick cut off and grow breast they still have the mind of a man and not a woman.

[naraht]

Originally Posted by atoheadlines

How about everyone here stop pretending to be so excepting (you wouldn't go Greek if you were all about fairness and equality), how you are chosen to belong to the organization you are in isn't based on fairness or equality. You will say oh they deserve a chance in life it isn't their fault they are transexual. That is called hypocracy, you can't support something if you wouldn't do it yourself. You all know none of your organizations would take a transexual person. I don't really care if they were pro-slavery, it was wrong but that was the time period. I don't believe the Greek organizations we know were founded by athetist orgie inbreds. They sure weren't people who were transexual. Fraternities and Sororities, the ones that were founded over a 100 years ago stand for good moral values and ethics, that is not what a transexual represents. I don't care if they have their dick cut off and grow breast they still have the mind of a man and not a woman.

Just as a quick comment, Alpha Epsilon Pi, Sigma Alpha Mu and Zeta Beta Tau were founded by JOOOOS. Since they aren't Christians, do they count as "athetist orgie inbreds"?

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by atoheadlines

How about everyone here stop pretending to be so excepting (you wouldn't go Greek if you were all about fairness and equality), how you are chosen to belong to the organization you are in isn't based on fairness or equality. You will say oh they deserve a chance in life it isn't their fault they are transexual. That is called hypocracy, you can't support something if you wouldn't do it yourself. You all know none of your organizations would take a transexual person. I don't really care if they were pro-slavery, it was wrong but that was the time period. I don't believe the Greek organizations we know were founded by athetist orgie inbreds. They sure weren't people who were transexual. Fraternities and Sororities, the ones that were founded over a 100 years ago stand for good moral values and ethics, that is not what a transexual represents. I don't care if they have their dick cut off and grow breast they still have the mind of a man and not a woman.

What the hell do you care what someone does with their own body? Along the lines of what I said before, in the South (and probably everywhere else), Christians used to forbid interracial marrying. They made it a crime, in fact, misogyny.

Moral standards change with the times. Our core values do too. If you're a member of a Southern, traditional fraternity with a long history, racial discrimination, being pro-slavery, etc. are part of your organization's moral tradition. Your founders most likely supported those things. We certainly don't support those things today.

Times change, attitudes change. Do I see my chapter pledging a transgendered student anytime soon? I doubt they even get the opportunity. It's rare enough in Oklahoma and folks usually don't opt for the surgery, etc., til well after college. Have we initiated homosexuals? Absolutely -- and it's no big deal. Have you? If you won't admit it now, just wait several years and pay close attention to a few of your brothers' facebook profiles. If your chapter is of a decent size, there's just about no chance you haven't. And if you'd turn your back on a brother over something like that, then maybe you need to examine not only your organization's core principles, but your own values.

[Barbie's_Rush]

This ATOheadlines mess has got to be a sockie.