What do you consider 'Fratty'?

[sigmadiva]

/hijack/

Originally Posted by KSigkid

I don't see where the "helpless southern belle" thing has come in at all, though. Heck, look at this site - most of the outspoken posters are, in fact, from the South.

HELLZZ YEAH!!!!

/end hijack/

[PhoenixAzul]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Your wardrobe sounds perfect to take in a Steeler game. And let me tell you, there is NOTHING that women up here appreciate more than being treated like helpless southern belles. Come on up sometime! Oh, and make sure you wear a pink polo (collar up) under your Steeler jersey. That will bring you a lot of attention!

I LOL'd.

[JackNimble]

Trust me I know of the possibility, but after all it's just a discussion on the internet.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by JackNimble

Trust me I know of the possibility, but after all it's just a discussion on the internet.

Wow - another moron.

[ASTalumna06]

Oh, and if this...

Originally Posted by Croakies n Bows

We don't allow tattoos, piercing, popped collars, gel in hair, graphic t-shirts (affliction etc), or hoodies.

... was the case here, the fraternities would die out.

(*minus the whole popped collar thing, because again, no one really does this, nor should they)

[srmom]

Bless your heart. "Helpless Southern belle" is, of course, an oxymoron. There is no such thing.

But, don't you know that part of our upbringing is learning how to work the "helpless Belle" angle to get what we want from witless and stupid men?

Haven't y'all seen Gone With the Wind???

No offense to Elephant Walk, who I find really entertaining, but I find it pretty funny to read about "Old South Frattiness" from somebody from Arkansas. I know I'm a Texan, which has its own ridiculousness (and I would never purport myself to be an expert on southern frattiness anyway), but Arkansas? Really??

[Elephant Walk]

Well Vineyard Vines has been argued about. Most would go Southern Proper over VV.

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

Well Vineyard Vines has been argued about. Most would go Southern Proper over VV.

I like some Southern Proper stuff, but it really seems like they try too hard to be "Vineyard Vines: The Southern Edition;" it honestly looks like they're stretching to create some "Southern" iconography that's not really there. The creators of VV developed a true lifestyle brand based on a very specific style of coastal living.

I can look at some Vineyard Vines things, and why they're included makes sense to me (like the belts with the MV and CC street signs, or any of the stuff related to whales). Much of the SP items, on the other hand, make me scratch my head.

Since it's a newer company, SP has a considerably smaller product line than VV (at least for women), which will probably dictate its market share for a while.

[Elephant Walk]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

I like some Southern Proper stuff, but it really seems like they try too hard to be "Vineyard Vines: The Southern Edition;" it honestly looks like they're stretching to create some "Southern" iconography that's not really there. The creators of VV developed a true lifestyle brand based on a very specific style of coastal living.

I can look at some Vineyard Vines things, and why they're included makes sense to me (like the belts with the MV and CC street signs, or any of the stuff related to whales). Much of the SP items, on the other hand, make me scratch my head.

Since it's a newer company, SP has a considerably smaller product line than VV (at least for women), which will probably dictate its market share for a while.

I agree on all.

But the "coastal living" part of VV is what appeals to most Southern Fraternity men.

Most of the big time Southern schools are fairly close to the coast.

[ASTalumna06]

Ok, with the whole "helpless southern belle" thing... 33girl said it first!

But seriously, that's not how I know women from the South to be. It's just one of those stereotype things... which I thought was the topic of this entire thread. I didn't think my post implied that all Southern women are helpless. I simply said if someone treated me that way, I'd probably think it was hilarious.

[srmom]

I know where the real center of power in the South is.

Exactly!! haha!

[joproper]

shorts above knees and a polo. Brands dont matter as much. Also neon man tanks are big

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by Croakies n Bows

but as far as how i was brought up, i went to private school, my mother owns two businesses, and my father is now retired on the lake. I had to learn the value of the dollar, and like you i think this is the thing that keeps the south having such a prestige of excellence.

Oh absolutely...because people in the North have no idea about the value of the dollar...

Seriously?

[RU OX Alum]

Originally Posted by Croakies n Bows

to elephant walk, i understand the fact that we are new to campus, but we are growing fast and do have a strong brotherhood. I will admit, last year, the rush chairman was trying too hard, and i will admit, some of our guys dont understand a lot of the ideas of a southern gentleman, that is were a pledge-ship does come in handy.

But the reason i went to sigma pi is because me mom is a little sister of sigma pi at ASU and all my life i have known these people who are sigma pi's and they are great people who have all gone on to be successful. I also looked at Sigma Nu, which my dad was. All his sigma nu friends, and i do mean all, are in very ill health from drinking and various drugs, and he told me he didnt think i should go there. And my grandfather and uncle are both Kappa Sigmas, and i thought they were way too big for me and just wouldnt be the right place.

You're pledges aren't gentlemen already? That doesn't sound fratty.

Sorry about your dad being a drug addict though.

[SWTXBelle]

Originally Posted by Croakies n Bows

But the reason i went to sigma pi is because me mom is a little sister of sigma pi at ASU a

Argh - he's a pirate!