What do you consider 'Fratty'?

[Elephant Walk]

Well Vineyard Vines has been argued about. Most would go Southern Proper over VV.

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

Well Vineyard Vines has been argued about. Most would go Southern Proper over VV.

I like some Southern Proper stuff, but it really seems like they try too hard to be "Vineyard Vines: The Southern Edition;" it honestly looks like they're stretching to create some "Southern" iconography that's not really there. The creators of VV developed a true lifestyle brand based on a very specific style of coastal living.

I can look at some Vineyard Vines things, and why they're included makes sense to me (like the belts with the MV and CC street signs, or any of the stuff related to whales). Much of the SP items, on the other hand, make me scratch my head.

Since it's a newer company, SP has a considerably smaller product line than VV (at least for women), which will probably dictate its market share for a while.

[Elephant Walk]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

I like some Southern Proper stuff, but it really seems like they try too hard to be "Vineyard Vines: The Southern Edition;" it honestly looks like they're stretching to create some "Southern" iconography that's not really there. The creators of VV developed a true lifestyle brand based on a very specific style of coastal living.

I can look at some Vineyard Vines things, and why they're included makes sense to me (like the belts with the MV and CC street signs, or any of the stuff related to whales). Much of the SP items, on the other hand, make me scratch my head.

Since it's a newer company, SP has a considerably smaller product line than VV (at least for women), which will probably dictate its market share for a while.

I agree on all.

But the "coastal living" part of VV is what appeals to most Southern Fraternity men.

Most of the big time Southern schools are fairly close to the coast.

[ASTalumna06]

Ok, with the whole "helpless southern belle" thing... 33girl said it first!

But seriously, that's not how I know women from the South to be. It's just one of those stereotype things... which I thought was the topic of this entire thread. I didn't think my post implied that all Southern women are helpless. I simply said if someone treated me that way, I'd probably think it was hilarious.