The Real Housewives of NJ

[BetteDavisEyes]

Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

Also, why do they keep saying "boobies" and talking about boobies. Weird.

You mean "bubbies" b/c that's how they pronounce the word.

They are so irritating yet I continue to watch.

[ThetaDancer]

I'm liking this show more and more and am ready for next week's episode! I really want to see how they confront Danielle about her criminal past as Beverly Merrill.

[Velocity_14]

Meeeeeee too. They were on The "View" yesterday...Caroline, Dina, and Jacqueline.

[ThetaDancer]

I have no clue whether these people are in the mafia, obviously, but the Manzos (Caroline and Dina) are related to Tiny Manzo (he's their father-in-law), who also owned and operated the banquet hall that they now run. He had mafia ties...until he was horribly murdered and left in a trunk. That's not to say that any of these women are married to men in the mafia, but it is an interesting tie.

And then there's Danielle...who's like a wannabe mobster based on her past...

I've done coursework on the subject, too, although primarily Irish organized crime.

[PM_Mama00]

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

Please quote the post where I said that because they are Italian and speak with a NJ accent, that this makes them mafia. Thanks.

I already did. You ASSumed they were mobsters.

Originally Posted by ThetaDancer

I have no clue whether these people are in the mafia, obviously, but the Manzo's (Caroline and Dina) are related to Tiny Manzo (he's their father-in-law), who also owned and operated the banquet hall that they now run. He had mafia ties...until he was horribly murdered and left in a trunk. That's not to say that any of these women are married to men in the mafia, but it is an interesting tie.

And then there's Danielle...who's like a wannabe mobster based on her past...

Anyone can have ties to the mafia. Just because you have mafia friends doesn't mean you're involved. And if that's the case, let's just say the UAW is a mafia organization since they have/had mafia ties.

Jimmy Hoffa-- Mafia ties. Not mafia. If that makes sense.

[ThetaDancer]

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00

Anyone can have ties to the mafia. Just because you have mafia friends doesn't mean you're involved. And if that's the case, let's just say the UAW is a mafia organization since they have/had mafia ties.

Jimmy Hoffa-- Mafia ties. Not mafia. If that makes sense.

That's why I said I have no way of knowing if these people are involved in the mafia. That was the opening sentence to my post.

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00

I already did. You ASSumed they were mobsters.



Anyone can have ties to the mafia. Just because you have mafia friends doesn't mean you're involved. And if that's the case, let's just say the UAW is a mafia organization since they have/had mafia ties.

Jimmy Hoffa-- Mafia ties. Not mafia. If that makes sense.

No, I want you to quote a post that I wrote where I SPECIFICALLY said that because they were Italian and had NJ accents, that this is what made them mob. I'm still waiting for you to do that. Until you can do that, you should probably refrain from making such an accusation.

[PM_Mama00]

Originally Posted by ThetaDancer

That's why I said I have no way of knowing if these people are involved in the mafia. That was the opening sentence to my post.

My post wasn't being sarcastic. Sorry if it came out that way.

Originally Posted by deepimpact2

No, I want you to quote a post that I wrote where I SPECIFICALLY said that because they were Italian and had NJ accents, that this is what made them mob. I'm still waiting for you to do that. Until you can do that, you should probably refrain from making such an accusation.

And we want you to answer WHY you thought they were mob? I never said that you said that, but A) they ARE Italian. B) they have NJ accents. So what else would make you think they are mafia?

[ThetaDancer]

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00

My post wasn't being sarcastic. Sorry if it came out that way.

Ahhh ok, sorry for the confusion! I totally misread it.

[deepimpact2]

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00

My post wasn't being sarcastic. Sorry if it came out that way.



And we want you to answer WHY you thought they were mob? I never said that you said that, but A) they ARE Italian. B) they have NJ accents. So what else would make you think they are mafia?

Good for you. Way to backtrack now. Next time you should ask what made me say that instead of jumping in and telling me why I said it.

And while we're at it, let's talk about the fact that while you accuse ME of having stereotypes, based on the statement in bold, you just showed that YOU are the one with the stereotypes. The fact that they are Italian and have NJ accents is the least of my concern. In fact only a couple of them have accents in my opinion.

No, I'm basing my statement on information I came across about the families. I also know poeple in that area who have given me some scoop.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00

So what else would make you think they are mafia?

Maybe the same references that made a lot of people think they are mafia. (not having read all of deepimpact's posts, I will just assume she doesn't really have the inside scoop )

The initial commercials highlighted the "we are family...don't mess with us" theme and it discussed the family owned business. Many people thought about the stereotypical Sopranos and Italian family references.

The media took it and ran with it, I think for publicity's sake, and The View even asked the ladies about it.

[DrPhil]

I know I'm catching reruns, but have you all already discussed the "gaylord" conflict? I missed the joke he was trying to make. I thought "gaylord faulker" when I heard him say it.

[srmom]

Wow, what a show! I watched all of them last night and made the ASSumption based upon certain things, that perhaps, some are "connected".

One thing I found kind of "mob-like" was the fact that the one lady paid for her entire house full of furniture with $120,000+ in cash that she had in her wallet. I mean, really, who does that?? Then, when the furniture was delivered, her husband (who's in "construction" and btw, I really like after the dancing lessons ) walked in looking like a character straight out of a modern day mob movie - wife beater t-shirt, tattoos on his arms, built like a truck, and paid the delivery guys with a wad of cash.. I may totally be off base, but he has that "vibe".

Then, the whole family banquet business - the entire family lives like Sultans - so unless they are hosting some REALLY over the top events where they are marking up the costs by 1000%, I just don't see how they can be bringing in that kind of dough.

The kinds of houses they live in are multi million dollar homes, decorated to the nines. These people didn't inherit their wealth (their grammar would be much better by this time if they were multi-generational money), they aren't NY investment bankers or partners in law firms, none are high muckety mucks at multi-national corporations, they aren't oil men who struck it rich, etc. Where does that kind of money come from?

I have a friend, who I've known for years, from Long Island. I know she is "connected" (but I won't say her name because it is extremely google-able ). Her dad is in "construction", she works for him as does her entire family, brothers, sisters, uncles, etc., but none of them actually do any work. They seem extremely similar in their behavior and spending patterns as these folks. My friend always pays in cash too, and she always pays for everyone at the table!! Caroline even reminds me of her mom, controlling, but loving, and always cooking for a crowd

So, maybe these gals are playing it up like they are mafia for entertainment value, or maybe they really are. Who really knows? But I like the show, and I like the people in it!

[texas*princess]

srmom - I think I remember Theresa saying (in the preview/first episode) that her husband was a successful entrepreneur so maybe his business is just really bringing in the dough? I find it really funny that they pull out wads of cash everytime they are going to pay for something though.

Also, I don't think multi-generational money automatically = great grammar and great dress. Just like 'they' say money can't buy you class or whatever. If they talk a certain way, it is probably because their family before them spoke that way... and people tend to emulate what they know and their surroundings.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by texas*princess

srmom - I think I remember Theresa saying (in the preview/first episode) that her husband was a successful entrepreneur so maybe his business is just really bringing in the dough? I find it really funny that they pull out wads of cash everytime they are going to pay for something though.

Wads of cash are always silly when you are at venues that take cards.

"I'm about to buy a new car...hmmm...let me be a tool and get out thousands of dollars from the bank."

Originally Posted by texas*princess

Also, I don't think multi-generational money automatically = great grammar and great dress. Just like 'they' say money can't buy you class or whatever. If they talk a certain way, it is probably because their family before them spoke that way... and people tend to emulate what they know and their surroundings.

Yep--especially if the multi-generations of money are blue collar rather than educated and what would traditionally be considered upper middle class.