Rush Limbaugh hopes Obama Fails

[RU OX Alum]

Originally Posted by jwright25

As someone who listens to Rush, this is a surprise to learn that I'm a racist. May I ask how you know that about me?

I didn't say all, I said the majority. And if you think it applies to you, then it probably does.

A good hint is the way you downplayed the racism in the post right above the one I'm quoting.

[jwright25]

Originally Posted by RU OX Alum

I didn't say all, I said the majority. And if you think it applies to you, then it probably does.

Interesting. I don't think it applies to me. However, I do know a lot of people who listen to Rush who aren't racist, and I don't know how you can arrive at such a generalization - that the majority of his listeners are racist - without knowing a majority of his listeners. I was being snarky at first because I don't care for sweeping generalizations that have the potential to include me. However now I am not: I am genuinely curious as to why you believe most of Rush's audience to be racist. Simply because they listen?

(And for those who have noted that he said majority and that I could be in the minority, I know that - and I know that my comment did not reflect that. Again, I'm just curious as to the evidence behind the post.)

Originally Posted by RU OX Alum

A good hint is the way you downplayed the racism in the post right above the one I'm quoting.

May I ask you to be more specific? In what way did I downplay racism? Perhaps the comment that preciousjeni quoted? If so, I will clarify. When I stated that there are some things that I might think are okay but they aren't, I don't mean to say that I think it's okay to use racial slurs and otherwise discriminate against others on the basis of race. I simply mean that I am glad that I have "followed" the GC race wars, as I have been exposed to many new opinions and theories. In particular, I have learned a lot from Chaos/DrPhil. (Really) Is it sad that my education on this very real problem has come from a fraternity/sorority chat site? Probably. But I am not familiar with other credible sources to get it. Is that sad again? Yes. But there's a lot of crap out there, and I don't know how to wade through it to get to the good stuff. I guess I have never taken the time to try because it doesn't have a direct impact on my life. But I am interested in the dialogue nonetheless and would love to further my education on these issues.

I have never been a victim of racism. The "racism" that I have been witness to is limited to jokes and inappropriate comments. Which some would argue as actually prejudice because there is no direct issue of power. (Racism = Prejudice + Power) I AM NOT justifying these comments and jokes. I am trying to explain my inexperience and complete lack of knowledge in these very weighty matters.

I have learned that I have a lot to learn. And that just because I might think (or thought) racism has diminished in America, those that have been (and continue to be) discriminated against might not agree. I've really been thinking about it a lot lately for some reason (maybe because of the recent race wars) and thinking about my own experiences and whether or not I have said or done something in the past that could be considered racist or prejudice. I guess that's why I reacted to the statement about most of Rush's listeners being racist. I don't listen for 3 hours a day/5 days a week, and what interests me is his commentary on policies - foreign/domestic/fiscal/etc. As I mentioned to DS, I hadn't even heard of the Halle Berry/Halfrican thing until he mentioned it in this thread.

To further explain the statement PJ quoted, because of some of the things I have read on GC, I have really sought to examine my own perceptions and ideas of racism and prejudice. And I listen carefully to statements made by others to evaluate what might be behind it. I respect that I will never understand how deeply racism affects some Americans.

Bottom line: I love dialogue. And if I have made a racist or otherwise racially insensitive comment, I would love to hear why it is so. I will be happy to admit my wrong and will take the education to better myself.

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by jwright25

As someone who listens to Rush, this is a surprise to learn that I'm a racist. May I ask how you know that about me?

He did say majority and not all.

[DaemonSeid]

Some of you would defend him to the death hmm?

5 quotes from Rush and think about if he was talking about policy:


I mean, let’s face it, we didn’t have slavery in this country for over 100 years because it was a bad thing. Quite the opposite: slavery built the South. I’m not saying we should bring it back; I’m just saying it had its merits. For one thing, the streets were safer after dark.



You know who deserves a posthumous Medal of Honor? James Earl Ray [the confessed assassin of Martin Luther King]. We miss you, James. Godspeed.



Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it.


I think the media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. They’re interested in black coaches and black quarterbacks doing well. I think there’s a little hope invested in McNabb and he got a lot of credit for the performance of his team that he really didn’t deserve

Take that bone out of your nose and call me back

- Rush Limbaugh

[agzg]

I just don't see why people are surprised that Rush Limbaugh hopes Obama fails. Did we really think he was going to rally behind the President?

I guess my point is, why is this an issue?

[KSig RC]

There's maybe only one thing Limbaugh's ever said that I agree with:

Words have meaning.

Now, context can give us insight into intent and can certainly adjust understanding. Limbaugh's past is context. However, sometimes context doesn't change the meaning at all - there is no one effect it can have. If a liar tells me it is cloudy outside, it just might be cloudy.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

There's maybe only one thing Limbaugh's ever said that I agree with:

Words have meaning.

Now, context can give us insight into intent and can certainly adjust context and understanding. Limbaugh's past is context. However, sometimes context doesn't change the meaning at all - there is no one effect it can have. If a liar tells me it is cloudy outside, it just might be cloudy.

Hehehehe...but what's the probablility that you believe the liar?

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Hehehehe...but what's the probablility that you believe the liar?

I would stick my head outside to check.

I don't think that is happening here, which is my point.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

I would stick my head outside to check.

I don't think that is happening here, which is my point.

Nope not at all.

[RU OX Alum]

I'm not reading the rest of this.

[CrackerBarrel]

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/dai...108.guest.html

There's the video link to the interview with Sean Hannity where he discusses it. He says "So I shamelessly say no, I want him to fail if his agenda is a far left collectivism (some people say socialism)... as a conservative heart-felt, deeply... why would I want socialism to succeed?" I think there is your context of what he was saying.

(BTW, I don't read Limbaugh's site, it was linked on Drudge.)

[nittanyalum]

I'm late to this, but I'm traveling so I'm having to catch things online a day or two later. But you know I'm always good for a Daily Show clip in threads like these, so enjoy: Fox News Fear Imbalance http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/in...fear-imbalance

And DS, you have to know that Limbaugh and the Fox News whack-jobs are going to be beside themselves about every single thing Obama does, it's all they have for the next 4 (or 8) years. You'll get along better and enjoy things more if you just ignore all that noise and certainly refrain from giving it more visibility by posting about all the things you'll think are offensive. Because there will more likely than not be MANY.

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by nittanyalum

I'm late to this, but I'm traveling so I'm having to catch things online a day or two later. But you know I'm always good for a Daily Show clip in threads like these, so enjoy: Fox News Fear Imbalance http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/in...fear-imbalance

And DS, you have to know that Limbaugh and the Fox News whack-jobs are going to be beside themselves about every single thing Obama does, it's all they have for the next 4 (or 8) years. You'll get along better and enjoy things more if you just ignore all that noise and certainly refrain from giving it more visibility by posting about all the things you'll think are offensive. Because there will more likely than not be MANY.

I think it's an entirely normal thing to get all caught up with criticism of one's candidate of choice. I know I would get upset when people ripped on Gov. Romney (the person who I most wished would win the Presidency).

But, as you said, there will likely be many criticisms over the next 4 years (some of them legitimate), and that's hard to get used to when you're so invested in a person, their candidacy and, later, their term in office.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by nittanyalum

I'm late to this, but I'm traveling so I'm having to catch things online a day or two later. But you know I'm always good for a Daily Show clip in threads like these, so enjoy: Fox News Fear Imbalance http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/in...fear-imbalance

And DS, you have to know that Limbaugh and the Fox News whack-jobs are going to be beside themselves about every single thing Obama does, it's all they have for the next 4 (or 8) years. You'll get along better and enjoy things more if you just ignore all that noise and certainly refrain from giving it more visibility by posting about all the things you'll think are offensive. Because there will more likely than not be MANY.

Thank you for the video...I missed that the other night...I needed the chuckle...now If I can figure out how to upload some of this stuff to my ipod....

Hmmmm...goooooggggllllleeee

[LadyDread2010]

He's just highly pissed off because Republicans didn't get the White House this term. Obama wants a bipartisan government,but there are those who do not agree with Obama. The only thing that matters is that Obama does the best he can. After all,he has quite a mess to clean up.

Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

heh...for those that got offended at what Jay Z said....take a gander at this:


RUSH: I got a request here from a major American print publication. "Dear Rush: For the Obama [Immaculate] Inauguration we are asking a handful of very prominent politicians, statesmen, scholars, businessmen, commentators, and economists to write 400 words on their hope for the Obama presidency. We would love to include you. If you could send us 400 words on your hope for the Obama presidency, we need it by Monday night, that would be ideal." Now, we're caught in this trap again. The premise is, what is your "hope." My hope, and please understand me when I say this. I disagree fervently with the people on our side of the aisle who have caved and who say, "Well, I hope he succeeds. We've got to give him a chance." Why? They didn't give Bush a chance in 2000. Before he was inaugurated the search-and-destroy mission had begun. I'm not talking about search-and-destroy, but I've been listening to Barack Obama for a year-and-a-half. I know what his politics are. I know what his plans are, as he has stated them. I don't want them to succeed.

If I wanted Obama to succeed, I'd be happy the Republicans have laid down. And I would be encouraging Republicans to lay down and support him. Look, what he's talking about is the absorption of as much of the private sector by the US government as possible, from the banking business, to the mortgage industry, the automobile business, to health care. I do not want the government in charge of all of these things. I don't want this to work. So I'm thinking of replying to the guy, "Okay, I'll send you a response, but I don't need 400 words, I need four: I hope he fails." (interruption) What are you laughing at? See, here's the point. Everybody thinks it's outrageous to say. Look, even my staff, "Oh, you can't do that." Why not? Why is it any different, what's new, what is unfair about my saying I hope liberalism fails? Liberalism is our problem. Liberalism is what's gotten us dangerously close to the precipice here. Why do I want more of it? I don't care what the Drive-By story is. I would be honored if the Drive-By Media headlined me all day long: "Limbaugh: I Hope Obama Fails." Somebody's gotta say it.


http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/dai...113.guest.html


Video:

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/pol...r.limbaugh.cnn

I guess it would be wrong if somebody says that they hope Rush ODs.....hehe

"Somebody's gotta say it."