Woman gives birth to eight babies - Page 24

SWTXBelle · #**346** 02-25-2009, 06:53 PM

Yes, he is using a vaginal probe.

Also re:the Duggars - they didn't have them ALL AT ONCE. Newborns are VERY labour intensive, in a way that older children are not. They are a COUPLE - two parents! They have the MONEY to support their children - so Octomom loses in the analogy category, too.

texas*princess · #**347** 02-25-2009, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

Yes, he is using a vaginal probe.

Also re:the Duggars - they didn't have them ALL AT ONCE. Newborns are VERY labour intensive, in a way that older children are not. They are a COUPLE - two parents! They have the MONEY to support their children - so Octomom loses in the analogy category, too.

The Duggars are the ones in "John & Kate + 8" right?

I think it was an interview with the mom - she said when the last were born, they had a lot of help in addition to her & her husband. She also said they didn't have any debt.

Which is a far cry from Octo-Mom. Crazy lady.

#**348** 02-25-2009, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by texas*princess

The Duggars are the ones in "John & Kate + 8" right?

I think it was an interview with the mom - she said when the last were born, they had a lot of help in addition to her & her husband. She also said they didn't have any debt.

Which is a far cry from Octo-Mom. Crazy lady.

The Duggars = super-Christian conservative family from Arkansas with 18 kids, all whose names start with J.

The Gosselins = Jon & Kate Plus 8, from Central Pennsylvania and only have 8 kids (a set of twins, and a set of sextuplets). Mom is Caucasian, Dad is Caucasian/Korean.

UGAalum94 · #**349** 02-25-2009, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by OTW

The Duggars = super-Christian conservative family from Arkansas with 18 kids, all whose names start with J.

The Gosselins = Jon & Kate Plus 8, from Central Pennsylvania and only have 8 kids (a set of twins, and a set of sextuplets). Mom is Caucasian, Dad is Caucasian/Korean.

I enjoyed this gigantic family overview.

I think people have questioned the Duggars a lot, but I agree there's a fundamental difference in people who have their kids naturally and provide for them and people who have fertility assistance and then have no resources to provide for the kids.

I'm sure we'd question a single mother with no income other than disability who had 14 kids over 14 years too, but the fact that some medical facility helped her get pregnant to have that many kids makes us wonder even more about how stuff should be done.

A lot of what I wonder about isn't really related to Octo because I just assume she's nuts; what I wonder is how the theoretically sane medical staff would ethically decide to help her have that many kids that she couldn't take care of. I know they've claimed she may have misrepresented her circumstances, but if we have standards for parents to clear for adoption and foster care, why would we have absolutely no standards for IVF when the mom already has six kids?

texas*princess · #**350** 02-25-2009, 11:23 PM

Thanks for the clarification OTW!

DaemonSeid · #**351** 02-26-2009, 09:30 AM

For those that predicted that CPS may get involved:

LOS ANGELES – Nadya Suleman has voiced concern that the hospital where her octuplets are being cared for may prevent her from taking them home when they're healthy enough in coming weeks. But in reality, hospitals don't prevent healthy children from going home — child protective services do.

And that's only if a complaint has been filed. Hospital employees are mandated to report to county authorities any concerns they have about unsuitable home environments, a mother's emotional or psychological instability, or any other situation that could result in harm to a child.

According to talk show host Dr. Phil McGraw, the 33-year-old unemployed mother called him Tuesday and said hospital officials were worried that her current living arrangement wouldn't be suitable.

Stu Riskin, a spokesman for Los Angeles County Department of Children and Family Services, said the agency cannot comment specifically on Suleman's situation and could not confirm whether a case had been opened on her family.

But in the event a child welfare complaint is made for a baby ready to leave the neo-natal intensive care unit, it's followed by interviews with family and doctors and in-home visits in an effort "to leave no stone unturned so that we can make the best possible assessment," Riskin said.

link

Video interview of the maybe baby daddy

nikki1920 · #**352** 02-26-2009, 09:45 AM

That's the law everywhere.

nikki1920 · #**353** 02-26-2009, 10:49 AM

She's not grown mentally. That's been established. Like the other Dr. Phil said, she has a serious disconnect with reality.

ZTABullwinkle · #**354** 02-26-2009, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by nikki1920

She's not grown mentally. That's been established. Like the other Dr. Phil said, she has a serious disconnect with reality.

She may be smart however in contacting Dr. Phil. He has enough of a following that she may get that help she needs to have the first of the babies come home next week. Apparently the hospital has given her a list of things she needs before the first baby can be released, so he has set up part of his website to help her.

DaemonSeid · #**355** 02-26-2009, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ZTABullwinkle

She may be smart however in contacting Dr. Phil. He has enough of a following that she may get that help she needs to have the first of the babies come home next week. Apparently the hospital has given her a list of things she needs before the first baby can be released, so he has set up part of his website to help her.

Too bad she didn't set up a part of her website to help her....hehe

CatStarESP4 · #**356** 03-04-2009, 02:55 AM

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This picture should be better for your stomachs...

LMAO!! However, it is a little on the disturbing, but the interpretation was funny!

I am not sure if anyone mentioned this in the tread, but it seems that some film production company is offering Nadya an opportunity to star in porn flicks.

I still don't get her motivation for having octuplets when she already has 6 kids! WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!

Her nickname Octomom reminds me of an octopus for some reason! Please don't get me started on that statement!

KSUViolet06 · #**357** 03-04-2009, 11:16 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/03/03/geo...ref=rss_latest

GA introduces "Octomom" inspired bill:

Bill would limit women under 40 to two embryos, women 40 or older to three

Critics call it a backdoor effort to outlaw abortions in the state

Bill faces long odds of passing because of timing in Georgia legislature

#**358** 03-05-2009, 09:39 AM

I have not heard the entire story but when i woke up at 5 am to the news it said that 911 got a call from her saying she w anted to kill herself. .............it was one of those teasers to stay tune so i didnt get the entire story

SydneyK · #**359** 03-05-2009, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by cutiepatootie

I have not heard the entire story but when i woke up at 5 am to the news it said that 911 got a call from her saying she w anted to kill herself. .............it was one of those teasers to stay tune so i didnt get the entire story

The Today show teaser (I didn't get to watch the story) indicated that she called 911 because she couldn't find one of her sons. They played part of the phone call, and she was saying, "I can't find my son! (or maybe it was "My son is missing") I'm going crazy. I'm going crazy!" I never heard any reference to her wanting to kill herself, but like I said, I didn't get to watch the story.

This woman needs some serious help.
Then again, water is wet. No need to point out the obvious.

nikki1920 · #**360** 03-05-2009, 11:49 AM

She. Could. Not. Find. Her. Son?

WHAT THEE HAYLE??