The 2008 Election Day LIVE Thread

[PeppyGPhiB]

Originally Posted by AGDLynn

Sorry, I don't believe her.

I was impressed when my hubby watching Barack and Michelle last night, saying that it will be nice to have an intelligent and classy First Lady.

I couldn't take Cindy and Sarah!!! Not to say that they aren't intelligent (okay maybe 1) and classy (hmmm???) but they are too grating. Wonder if anything will come of Cindy's past drug use and Sarah's very bad temper (they were talking about it on the Bill O'Reilly show tonight about how the McCain team was getting very po'd at her diva attitude.)

Though I can't stand George, I've always thought Laura Bush seemed very bright and always gracious.

[the rocketeer]

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

Though I can't stand George, I've always thought Laura Bush seemed very bright and always gracious.

I agree!

[nittanyalum]

LOL -- put on Comedy Central NOW. SouthPark on election result.

[the rocketeer]

I don't have a TV. XD

[breathesgelatin]

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

Though I can't stand George, I've always thought Laura Bush seemed very bright and always gracious.

Also agree!

Re: hypoallergenic dogs, there is a sub-breed of rat terriers that is hairless that is hypoallergenic. I love love love love love love love rat terriers, but honestly I can't see the Obamas going for a hairless dog.

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/americanhairlessterrier.htm

awww...

[christiangirl]

Awww I really want a shih-tzu named "Chubby." I knew one and he was so awesome that I wanted one for myself.

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by LttleMsPrEp

As an Obama supporter i just hope that fellow supporters don't forget what it took to get here campaign wise as far as spreading awareness on the issues, getting more involved in the communty, becoming aware of the various issues that have a direct impact on our generation and etc. It'll really suck if people just take this win.. go home and do nothing else but sit on their asses and wait for Obama to change America. Change comes from the bottom to the top not from top to bottom. I think that our generation can continue to make a great impact in our gov't as long as we keep working to see that change is actually implemented..

I've been saying this for years.

No one cares anymore, not like they used to. And if they do, it doesn’t appear that way. In the past, huge social movements have caught politicians’ attention and have helped to shape history. Those who are higher up can’t hear us if we don’t speak up. Politicians can only understand the people when they hear the people. It seems as if no one wants to be heard, except by their neighbors and friends who listen to them complain over commercials during the Sunday afternoon football game.

[nittanyalum]

For the KSigs! Take heart...

The "Grand Young Party" : http://www.newsweek.com/id/40211#?l=...9&t=1902591231

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

I've been saying this for years.

No one cares anymore, not like they used to. And if they do, it doesn’t appear that way. In the past, huge social movements have caught politicians’ attention and have helped to shape history. Those who are higher up can’t hear us if we don’t speak up. Politicians can only understand the people when they hear the people. It seems as if no one wants to be heard, except by their neighbors and friends who listen to them complain over commercials during the Sunday afternoon football game.

What constitutes a "social movement" changes with time and should be based on the contexts. People are stuck in what worked during the Civil Rights Movement or the war protests of the 60's. Those were different times and called for different measures.

A lot people want to rally or march but don't understand that rallying and marching doesn't constitute a social movement the way that it used to. If people just want to be visible and have a gigantic fish fry, such gatherings work. If people want to work toward a common longterm goal, we need to rally people behind the cause and not literally hold a rally.

[AlphaGamDiva]

Originally Posted by BetteDavisEyes

AlphaGamDiva, don't be ashamed of how you voted. I have no shame in admitting that I voted for Gray Davis as the governor of California twice nor do I have shame in admitting that I signed to recall his ass. I also voted for Schwarzeneggar and have no shame in admitting it.

Take pride that you did vote and even if your candidate didn't win, you stuck to your beliefs regardless of the outcome.

no worries i am definitely not ashamed of how i voted at all. i am a proud supporter of McCain, a man who has gone above and beyond what his call was for this country. what i was meaning was that IF President-Elect Obama turns out to be the biggest thing to this country since George Washington, then i might feel a lil twinge of embarrassment that i did not see that from the beginning as apparently so many of my fellow Americans did. i will never feel ashamed for voting McCain/Palin, but time will tell if i will ever think, "dangit" for not thinking P.E. Obama was capable. that is all.

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Not a sockpuppet or troll. Just DSTChaos.

YYYYYAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!

[Dionysus]

Originally Posted by nittanyalum

YYYYYAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!

Is this a joke or not? If not, welcome back, even if it's just for a day or two.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Dionysus

Is this a joke or not? If not, welcome back, even if it's just for a day or two.

Hey, there aren't too many places to have good post-election convo without running into idiots with keyboards. Those political boards are too intense for me.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by epchick

Although it happens "very rarely," electors are not obligated to vote for the candidate that wins the majority.

Again, this is an overstatement. Laws regarding electors vary from state to state. Some states (I can't tell you whether it is a majority of states or not) have laws that prohibit an elector from voting for a candidate other than the one who won the polular vote in that state. For example, technically in North Carolina, if you voted for Obama and Biden, you were not voting for them per se, you were voting for the 15 electors nominated by the NC Democratic Party. Likewise with McCain/Palin and the 15 electors nominated by the NCGOP. The electors nominated by the party of the candidate that wins the popular vote are themselves elected as NC's electors. NC law says that "[a]ny presidential elector . . . who fails to attend and vote for the candidate of the political party which nominated such elector . . . shall forfeit and pay to the State five hundred dollars . . . . In addition to such forfeiture, refusal or failure to vote for the candidates of the political party which nominated such elector shall constitute a resignation from the office of elector, his vote shall not be recorded, and the remaining electors shall forthwith fill such vacancy" as provided by law.

In the 2000 election, Cheney had to change his "home state" from Texas to Wyoming because of the electoral college. Something about electors can't vote for two people from the same state, so either Bush wouldn't have gotten Texas' electoral votes or Cheney wouldn't have gotten the votes.

The US Constitution says electors cannot vote for more than one candidate (President or VP) from their own state.

Originally Posted by Benzgirl

They Joes will look at their paychecks and realize their $250,000 salary is missing a zero, and will then get a refund based on the Obama plan that McCain's tax plan would have reserved for the rich.

According to an article in the NYTimes, exit polls showed that voters with median incomes of $40+ thousand (the average for plumbers and pipefitters) and voters with median incomes >$200,000 both broke for Obama.

Feel free to question the source and to question exit polls.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by nittanyalum

For the KSigs! Take heart...

The "Grand Young Party" : http://www.newsweek.com/id/40211#?l=...9&t=1902591231

Boy, if only you could see my registration card, you'd get quite the kick out of this . . . I'm sure C is taking heart, though, once he gets his ass out of ConLaw.