High school hazing on The Early Show - Page 21

starang21 · #**301** 06-03-2003, 01:14 PM

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Originally posted by momoftwo

The 15 students charged with battery will have their day in court on June 11. That will be the opportunity to see if these kids get treated any better or worse than kids who are less well off. At least one of the students charged has retained a very high powered defense attorney (who usually handles capital cases).

well, we'll see how that goes then. we'll see if this is another case of the spoiled rich kid getting off because of a legal matter.

madmax · #**302** 06-03-2003, 01:26 PM

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Originally posted by starang21
how is it stupid? because their punishment didn't fit the crime? or is it because they're trying to say "kids will be kids, they make mistakes." right, dumping doo-doo on someone is just a "mistake." that's what is stupid about this whole matter.

It is stupid because the judge did exactly what you wanted him to do and you are still complaining. He ruled against the plaintiff and allowed the school to expell the plaintiff. A number of the students also face charges from Cook County. Now what did you expect the judge to do? Strap the plaintiff in an electric chair without a trial?

The students haven't gotten away with anything. You are confusing them with OJ.

starang21 · #**303** 06-03-2003, 01:34 PM

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Originally posted by madmax
It is stupid because the judge did exactly what you wanted him to do and you are still complaining. He ruled against the plaintiff and allowed the school to expell the plaintiff. A number of the students also face charges from Cook County. Now what did you expect the judge to do? Strap the plaintiff in an electric chair without a trial?

The students haven't gotten away with anything. You are confusing them with OJ.

no, actually....what i wanted is that this kid be brought up on charges of assault. expulsion is all fine and dandy....if you do something such as cheating on a test. community service and not being able to walk at commencement is an OK punishment? nah...that line of thinking is stupid. the fact that this matter is even a debate is stupid. put this in a low income neighborhood and this would have never made the news....they would just get thrown in jail for assault. but if that's what's going to happen...fine, let the punishment fit the crime. and what the hell does OJ have to do with anything?

DeltaSigStan · #**304** 06-03-2003, 01:41 PM

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Originally posted by starang21
try telling that to the minority youth who are constantly jailed by the system for "making mistakes." right......i love the hypocrisy of the US government.

I know several white kids who "make mistakes" and have definitly paid for them with jail time.

Hindi lahat ay tungkol sa kulay.......

starang21 · #**305** 06-03-2003, 01:45 PM

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Originally posted by DeltaSigStan
I know several white kids who "make mistakes" and have definitly paid for them with jail time.

Hindi lahat ay tungkol sa kulay......calm down dog.

i'm so mad at you dude, i can't understand a damn word of tagalog. unless it's putang ina mo (is that how you spell it?). but anyhow, i know some white kids who pay for their mistakes with jail times too. i'm not even arguing the fact.

DeltaSigStan · #**306** 06-03-2003, 01:47 PM

Hey man, I can BARELY speak it...my parents combined can speak Tagalog, Ilocano, Pangasinan, and Zambal (sp?)...and they never spoke a word of it to me as a child.

starang21 · #**307** 06-03-2003, 02:39 PM

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Originally posted by DeltaSigStan
Hey man, I can BARELY speak it...my parents combined can speak Tagalog, Ilocano, Pangasinan, and Zambal (sp?)...and they never spoke a word of it to me as a child.

the only words they spoke to me were the curse words (my dad speaks visayan, because he's from leyte). usually the words are followed by a smack on the head. i have this aunt who knows i can't speak it, but still tries to engage in convo with me. i mean, seriously.

DeltaSigStan · #**308** 06-03-2003, 02:42 PM

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Originally posted by starang21
i have this aunt who knows i can't speak it, but still tries to engage in convo with me. i mean, seriously.

LMAO You too eh?

#**309** 06-03-2003, 03:07 PM

Heh...putang ina mo, huh?

I watch TFC too.

starang21 · #**310** 06-03-2003, 03:08 PM

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Originally posted by OohTeenyWahine
Heh...putang ina mo, huh?

I watch TFC too.

is that how it's spelled? my question is, why is there always a parental advisory on every single show on there? even the "sharon" shows?

GeekyPenguin · #**311** 06-03-2003, 04:56 PM

There was a pretty fluffy article on this in People...I did not feel bad for the two juniors who decided to be featured.

madmax · #**312** 06-04-2003, 05:01 PM

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Originally posted by starang21
no, actually....what i wanted is that this kid be brought up on charges of assault. expulsion is all fine and dandy....if you do something such as cheating on a test. community service and not being able to walk at commencement is an OK punishment? nah...that line of thinking is stupid. the fact that this matter is even a debate is stupid. put this in a low income neighborhood and this would have never made the news....they would just get thrown in jail for assault. but if that's what's going to happen...fine, let the punishment fit the crime. and what the hell does OJ have to do with anything?

Hey Genius. 15 students and 2 parents were charged.

Should your fraternity be expelled and charged with hazing? Aren't you the same guy that is always talking about the benefits of hazing and earning your letters? You have admitted to hazing in the past and you even said GLOs that don't haze are just clubs.

starang21 · #**313** 06-04-2003, 05:35 PM

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Originally posted by madmax
Hey Genius. 15 students and 2 parents were charged.

Should your fraternity be expelled and charged with hazing? Aren't you the same guy that is always talking about the benefits of hazing and earning your letters? You have admitted to hazing in the past and you even said GLOs that don't haze are just clubs.

with what? giving kids alcohol or assault? a misdemeanor or felony? kinda like that one kid who pinned his girl to the garage with his jeep and only got reckless driving. this wouldn't even be a debate, nor would this bullshit be on the news if this was in a low income neighborhood. or are you too stupid to see that? do you even understand the point of my original statement? you have the same kind of mentality these piss poor parents have, hey..they're kids, they make mistakes. "it's not like we killed any of them." sounds like a product of good parenting, huh?

oh yeah, and i also said that if you don't earn you letter and have them given to you, then you're just a club. why not learn to read before you run your mouth. it's not my fault that you like things given to you instead of working for them. but that's neither here nor there. i guess that's the same line of thinking those moronic parents have. oh yeah, and when chapters get caught hazing their pledge...yeah they get kicked off the campus i.e. expelled. not like the "majority" frats who just get suspended but can still throw parties when they boys die of alcohol poisoning.

madmax · #**314** 06-04-2003, 08:05 PM

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Originally posted by starang21
with what? giving kids alcohol or assault? a misdemeanor or felony? kinda like that one kid who pinned his girl to the garage with his jeep and only got reckless driving. this wouldn't even be a debate, nor would this bullshit be on the news if this was in a low income neighborhood. or are you too stupid to see that? do you even understand the point of my original statement? you have the same kind of mentality these piss poor parents have, hey..they're kids, they make mistakes. "it's not like we killed any of them." sounds like a product of good parenting, huh?

oh yeah, and i also said that if you don't earn you letter and have them given to you, then you're just a club. why not learn to read before you run your mouth. it's not my fault that you like things given to you instead of working for them. but that's neither here nor there. i guess that's the same line of thinking those moronic parents have. oh yeah, and when chapters get caught hazing their pledge...yeah they get kicked off the campus i.e. expelled. not like the "majority" frats who just get suspended but can still throw parties when they boys die of alcohol poisoning.

You are right, if this was a low income neighborhood it wouldn't have made the news. The reporters are already too busy covering the murders, rapes and drive byes in the low income neighborhoods.

starang21 · #**315** 06-04-2003, 11:19 PM

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Originally posted by madmax
You are right, if this was a low income neighborhood it wouldn't have made the news. The reporters are already too busy covering the murders, rapes and drive byes in the low income neighborhoods.

actually, they're wasting their time with bullshit such as this.