School Daze question.

[KAY10]

I'm kind of going way back here to some earlier postings I read. Some of the posting that Shinerbock made about some greek organizations not being real. Well, at my school I don't consider some to be real. I'm not going to mention any names, but there is a Karate frat at my school. Funny but true, and none of them know Martial Arts except mabey one or two. They are only at my school though. Too me that's not real, but BGLOs are real. BGLOs are nation wide and some are even going International if not already. I see what you're saying Shinerbock as far as not being exposed to BGLOs, but because you haven't been exposed to them does not mean they are not real. I went to a historically black college and I had never heard of WGLOs in my life because I had never been exposed to them, until I went to visit Ohio State. At first I didn't think the WGLOs were real. I said to myself, "What the heck is that???" Well, I didn't want to stay ignorant (not saying that you are) so I did some research on some of them and learned about the history of some. Some were quite interesting. My founders founded my fraternity because not only were they not allowed in WGLOs but also were not allowed to share the same faciltities as white students. They couldn't even use the gynasium because of the color of their skin. This all took place at Indiana University, where African American students would go weeks without seeing another African American student. At the time, Indiana was nicknamed Klandiana because the Klan was very big there and growing. Funny but this is true. The founders started Kappa Alpha Psi as a support group for black students since they didn't have any support groups.

Because I wasn't exposed to WGLOs, I didn't let that stop me from finding out about some of them. You should expand your mind a little and read some of the books about BGLOs. You would find it interesting. We have a ton of history and the greatest thing about the Divine 9 is that after graduation we still recognize our organizations, and are very much involved with them until the day we die. It's like a marriage. "Til death do us part." I'm not saying all, but most WGLO members that I meet always say "I USED to be in a frat," or "I USED to be in a sorority". To me I think real organizations take their organizations to the grave with them. That's REAL to me. I hope you didn't take offense to anything I said, because I wasn't trying to offend you or your organization. Believe it or not, some WGLO sororities are starting to participate in BGLO step shows, a tradition that was started in Africa and continues with BGLOs. I'm not going to try and change your opinion, I'm just trying to get you to learn more history and open up a little that's all.

[shinerbock]

Which is fine, and I never said I havent been exposed to black or multicultural groups, but that those I have been exposed to don't function like the IFC groups do. I think we can all agree that the two types are very different. I guess I consider IFC fraternities to be "real" fraternities because they generally have been around longer, although that isn't always true. We just do things quite a bit different, so to each their own. If I was on a campus with only black or multicultural GLO's, I don't think I'd have gone greek (this is ignoring the issue of race, I'm saying this based only on how these groups work, differences in traditions, etc.). Likewise, there may be some of you who wouldnt join a more traditional IFC type fraternity. The reason I would say something along the lines of other types being not "real" is that naturally I consider what I'm apart of to be the original type of American collegiate greek life, so that is the standard I use when comparing other types of groups. After all, it obviously doesnt have to be "real" to me to be so to you.

[marquise1911]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

I guess I consider IFC fraternities to be "real" fraternities because they generally have been around longer, although that isn't always true. We just do things quite a bit different, so to each their own.

All the NPHC Fraternities are part of the IFC? What is your point? We all know the IFC has its standards for membership and if KAY AFA WYF FBS are all part of the IFC then we must have met the standards of those previously admitted. So what are you referring to?

[shinerbock]

I thought only a select few traditionally black fraternities were in IFC, so I guess I was wrong. When I was referring to IFC fraternities, I was referring to traditional fraternities such as SAE, KA, SN, SX, Sig Ep, Kappa Sig, etc, etc... I'm trying to refrain from using terms like "traditionally white" fraternity, but I guess that may point you in the direction I was referring to.

[DSTRen13]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

I thought only a select few traditionally black fraternities were in IFC, so I guess I was wrong. When I was referring to IFC fraternities, I was referring to traditional fraternities such as SAE, KA, SN, SX, Sig Ep, Kappa Sig, etc, etc... I'm trying to refrain from using terms like "traditionally white" fraternity, but I guess that may point you in the direction I was referring to.

No, you're right - the fraternities with joint membership in the NPHC and the NIC are Alpha Phi Alpha and Iota Phi Theta. Omega Psi Phi and Phi Beta Sigma are not members of the NIC. With individual schools' IFCs, I don't know, I guess that would depend on how they are structured.

Personally, I don't see what is such a big deal with using the terms traditionally white fraternity or traditionally white sorority ... it can get tricky when you're trying to not to use the terms.

[shinerbock]

Well there is obvious mixing, especially in parts of the country where minorities are commonly members of NIC/trad white fraternities. But in all honesty I don't think anyone would deny there are some pretty big differences between traditionally white and traditionally black fraternities, both in operation and in culture.

[starang21]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

I thought only a select few traditionally black fraternities were in IFC, so I guess I was wrong. When I was referring to IFC fraternities, I was referring to traditional fraternities such as SAE, KA, SN, SX, Sig Ep, Kappa Sig, etc, etc... I'm trying to refrain from using terms like "traditionally white" fraternity, but I guess that may point you in the direction I was referring to.

well, those that you listed are traditionally white, historically white, ect...but that terminlogy might seems to get people caught up in a tizzy. it is what it is.

[starang21]

Originally Posted by makkkallan25

consider that are you stereotyping me as a redneck that muds his truch and listens to country music.

you constantly do the same with people of color on this site like it's going out of style. the irony of you even mentioning anyone stereotyping you as common trailer trash is proof positive of your immense stupidity and delusional mentality, billy bob. explaining race relations to you is like giving an addition lesson to a door knob. at least shinerblock among others has some sort of reason and some semblance of logic at times and isn't a close minded twit.

it kills me when white people complain about being called ignorant/racist, ect., but continuously spew ignorant drivel like some of the thick skulled meat-heads on this site. if you have thin skin and don't like to be called out, then open up your brain.

before anyone says anything....

and i disagree with homosexuality, LOL

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by starang21

it kills me when white people complain about being called ignorant/racist, ect., but continuously spew ignorant drivel like some of the thick skulled meat-heads on this site. if you have thin skin and don't like to be called out, then open up your brain.

Hey Tyrell,

.....I certainly am not going to consider jack shit about what you say when all you do is spurt out mindless crap about racism, white trash, "billy bob", and being in the KKK.

It also kills me when black people (namely you) aren't original and can't come up with new insults.

Thanks, "twit"

[starang21]

Originally Posted by macallan25

Hey Tyrell,

.....I certainly am not going to consider jack shit about what you say when all you do is spurt out mindless crap about racism, white trash, "billy bob", and being in the KKK.

It also kills me when black people (namely you) aren't original and can't come up with new insults.

Thanks, "twit"

you don't consider anything, because you're lacking coherent thought and thus couldn't ever comprehend anything so simple as the irony of you irrelevant drivel. if my comments apply about you being ignorant, and uninformed trash, so be it and continue to be offended.

it's quite obvious that you're a sensitive child who can't contribute to any sort of discussion without breaking out in hives because your brain is overloaded.

i'm not in the business of educating the stupid, and in order to bring you up to par would require nothing short of an act of the holy trinity.

and check the FAQ, what makes you think i'm black? because i argue with trailer trash such as yourself? surely you think that with the ignorant trash you spew, more than just a few would think that you're nothing short of a david duke aspirant.

LMAO @ tyrell, you think you're original now that i've called you billy bob? idiot. surely you can come with better. try harder, and don't get so discouraged.

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by starang21

you don't consider anything, because you're lacking coherent thought and thus couldn't ever comprehend anything so simple as the irony of you irrelevant drivel. if my comments apply about you being ignorant, and uninformed trash, so be it and continue to be offended.

it's quite obvious that you're a sensitive child who can't contribute to any sort of discussion without breaking out in hives because your brain is overloaded.

i'm not in the business of educating the stupid, and in order to bring you up to par would require nothing short of an act of the holy trinity.

and check the FAQ, what makes you think i'm black? because i argue with trailer trash such as yourself? surely you think that with the ignorant trash you spew, more than just a few would think that you're nothing short of a david duke aspirant.

LMAO @ tyrell, you think you're original now that i've called you billy bob? idiot. surely you can come with better. try harder, and don't get so discouraged.

After I graduate this May from UT with a 3.7, intern with HaynesBoone over the summer and enter into law school....i'll remind myself about how stupid/ignorant/unimformed/overloaded I am.

If saying "homie" and describing someone's fashion sense as gay/queer/metro Miami club trash/all of the above makes me a David Duke aspirant....then so be it. I think its ridiculous.........but i'm not going to lose any sleep over it. Sorry that I don't get offended and worked up over a message board.

I wasn't trying to be original. You called me Billy Bob......I called you Tyrell. Perhaps Jamal would be better...or maybe LaMarcus. Maybe even Steve or Sam........if you actually are white.

[starang21]

Originally Posted by macallan25

After I graduate this May from UT with a 3.7, intern with HaynesBoone over the summer and enter into law school....i'll remind myself about how stupid/ignorant/unimformed/overloaded I am.

wonderful, am i supposed to be impressed by that? i've graduated already, have done and am doing big things professionally; thus your miniscule accomplishments are meaningless and paltry to what i've achieved. i've encountered worse from FAR better than you. i'm not the one you want to compare resumes to. try that high school bullshit with one of your friends who get starry eyed and star struck by C-list individuals.

Originally Posted by macallan25

I think

apparently not very much.

[bows&toes]

Originally Posted by starang21

wonderful, am i supposed to be impressed by that? i've graduated already, have done and am doing big things professionally; thus your miniscule accomplishments are meaningless and paltry to what i've achieved. i've encountered worse from FAR better than you. i'm not the one you want to compare resumes to. try that high school bullshit with one of your friends who get starry eyed and star struck by C-list individuals.



apparently not very much.

Hahaha, yes I forgot... you have an "above genius level IQ" right? Sorry but your credibility is long gone and your posts all sound the same and never have any content. Quite frankly, you bore me.

miniscule? Learn to spell, where did you go to school again?

[starang21]

Originally Posted by bows&toes

Hahaha, yes I forgot... you have an "above genius level IQ" right? Sorry but your credibility is long gone and your posts all sound the same and never have any content. Quite frankly, you bore me.

miniscule? Learn to spell, where did you go to school again?

then quit reading my posts, smartacus. the little red x at the top right has never moved.

my comment must have made you feel insecure. it's understandable, considering you yourself aren't intelligent enough to add to the conversation anyway. you are inferior anyway.

[DSTCHAOS]

haha...starang21 is the most Asian black person I have ever met. Let's get married.