Dynamics of Greek Life on campus

[piphiangel314]

There is also UMSL and SLU both representing Greek Life in the Lou as well.

[PANTHERTEKE]

I think the dynamics of Greek Life are the same almost anywhere.

The IFC/NPC groups hang out and associate almost exclusively with themselves, same goes for NPHC and Multicultural orgs. And within the different councils, even more seperations can exist (XYZ and ABC fraternities only hang out with EDF and PQR sororities, etc)

Once in a while there will be a joint philanthropy event between orgs in different councils. On some campuses Homecoming Week may be a joint effort between an IFC and NPC partnered with an NPHC or MGC org, whatever.

Of course the degree of this varies from school to school but it's usually like this.

[Tinia2]

Originally Posted by cattleprod

Well I had never heard of missouri state until this thread much less their greek system so I doubt they have "the most greek chapters in the southwest region" unless the "southwest region" refers to southwestern missouri.

here is your homework: http://www.missouristate.edu/activities/GreekLife.htm

and from your first posting, you said that you were banned and leaving.
http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...&postcount=513
why the change of mind and the return?
and just which one of those four houses are you a member of over in UT?

[Coquiporvida]

Originally Posted by PANTHERTEKE

I think the dynamics of Greek Life are the same almost anywhere.

The IFC/NPC groups hang out and associate almost exclusively with themselves, same goes for NPHC and Multicultural orgs. And within the different councils, even more seperations can exist (XYZ and ABC fraternities only hang out with EDF and PQR sororities, etc)

Once in a while there will be a joint philanthropy event between orgs in different councils. On some campuses Homecoming Week may be a joint effort between an IFC and NPC partnered with an NPHC or MGC org, whatever.

Of course the degree of this varies from school to school but it's usually like this.

I would agree with you. IFC/PHA sororities and fraternities tend to associate only with in themselves and the same is true with other councils as you stated. But from what I've seen (at least at MSU) is that there is an ignorance of these organizations on each side. To be honest (from the Multicultural Greek side) my sisters and I cannot relate on the level of being Greek, to lets say an ADPi here, because #1, our process to get into our respective organizations was different (which is a big deal here) #2 how our organizations are precieved as a whole, and #3 it really comes down to how our organizations are run. The every day to day practice. Ive also seen that there has been a move to "unite" on some level. A move for us as Greeks to understand each other on the general level to understand each other as a whole.Because of course, the one thing that does "unite" us all is the fact that we are all Greek. But again, that is just here at MSU.

[Kansas City]

I don't think that it has anything to do with ignorance, recruitment/intake process, or how the organizations operate.

I think it is easier for organizations of a similar size to associate with each other regardless of affiliation. You mention in another thread about your chapter having 4 members I believe? When you are dealing with five different PHA/NPC sororities on the MSU campus of 50-100 girls each, it can lead to quite a discrepancy and (unfortunately) it is easy for your members to become "lost in the crowd" so to speak. I don't think that the other organizations want to purposely exclude your group (nor does your group intend to exclude other organizations) but it just doesn't seem to work well, logistically speaking.

[Tom Earp]

Yes for some of the snobs on G C, there are a lot of schools not mentioned!

One that many forget is Culver-Stockton in N E Mo. Mo. Southern is also another. These are some in the MIAA, but, there are many others that were not included.

They may not be as big as some in the South or say Pen, Cal,, N Y or some other states, you will find the Greek Community still strong in Mo.

Some other schools include William-Jewell, William Woods, Drury Un.
Mo. Valley, UMKC, Rockhurst Un. to name a few.

SWMo was just tha until a big legislative battle to make it MSU!

It was much easier for UM. Rolla to go to UM S & T! That one made sense!

Well actually so did SWMo to Mo S Un!

But Springrield Mo is the third largest City in Mo.

I think they have @ 4-7 Colleges there!

Many do not have GLOs there as they are religious affiliated. Non GLO allowed!

And lest we from the Western Side of the State there are a lot of Collges in St. Louis the Eaatern side of Mo.

[AOII_LB93]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

Yes for some of the snobs on G C, there are a lot of schools not mentioned!

One that many forget is Culver-Stockton in N E Mo. Mo. Southern is also another. These are some in the MIAA, but, there are many others that were not included.

They may not be as big as some in the South or say Pen, Cal,, N Y or some other states, you will find the Greek Community still strong in Mo.

Some other schools include William-Jewell, William Woods, Drury Un.
Mo. Valley, UMKC, Rockhurst Un. to name a few.

SWMo was just tha until a big legislative battle to make it MSU!

It was much easier for UM. Rolla to go to UM S & T! That one made sense!

Well actually so did SWMo to Mo S Un!

But Springrield Mo is the third largest City in Mo.

I think they have @ 4-7 Colleges there!

Many do not have GLOs there as they are religious affiliated. Non GLO allowed!

And lest we from the Western Side of the State there are a lot of Collges in St. Louis the Eaatern side of Mo.

WTF are you talking about? Who was being snobby? Holy cow man...back away from the keyboard.

[Coquiporvida]

Originally Posted by Kansas City

I don't think that it has anything to do with ignorance, recruitment/intake process, or how the organizations operate.

I think it is easier for organizations of a similar size to associate with each other regardless of affiliation. You mention in another thread about your chapter having 4 members I believe? When you are dealing with five different PHA/NPC sororities on the MSU campus of 50-100 girls each, it can lead to quite a discrepancy and (unfortunately) it is easy for your members to become "lost in the crowd" so to speak. I don't think that the other organizations want to purposely exclude your group (nor does your group intend to exclude other organizations) but it just doesn't seem to work well, logistically speaking.

Although it may not have much to do with how organizations operate internally, it does have a significant impact on how we relate to each other and interact.

I would say that 4 members against the significantly larger sororities on campus does put us at a disadvantage numerically, that is the only disadvantage. As small as we are, I think that we work very hard to promote, represent, and make of presence known on campus. Has it been easy, no, but we are making it, with much success.

[pbear19]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

Yes for some of the snobs on G C, there are a lot of schools not mentioned!

Tom. As politely as I am able, I would like to point out that Kansas City and I (and others) were making a tounge-in-cheek commentary to illustrate that the OP's use of 'southwestern region' wasn't the best terminology. Given that the original intent of this thread had absolutely nothing to do with Missouri schools, none of us found it necessary to list every single college or university in MO with a greek system. That would be silly, not snobbish.

If you are intersted in discussing the multitude of greek systems in this fine state, you might consider starting a thread entitled 'Missouri Greeks', rather than listing the schools ad nauseum in a thread called 'Dynamics of Greek Life on campus'.

Coquiporvida - you have my apologies for the huge hijack. One thought - are the NPHC groups on your campus large? SGRho at Truman had I think 4 members when I was undergrad, but they had an uncanny knack for making their presence known, and for interacting with other GLOs. I will always have a ton of respect for that organization because of how those ladies presented themselves. If you have a similar group at MSU, it might be a good group to reach out to for ideas.

[Tom Earp]

Originally Posted by AOII_LB93

WTF are you talking about? Who was being snobby? Holy cow man...back away from the keyboard.

If you kept up with the thread, there were many from Mo. who were posting and I just tried to fill in some of the blanks!


Now, if you will remove your head out of a part of my body maybe it can move on!

Have you ever had your self to this part of the country? Do you know anything about of this part of the country?

Why don't you get off of your rear and check Schools sites as I do or even fellow GLOs?


You must not get out much do you?

Why don't you come to Ks, Mo, Ne, Ok and see what is going on!

Oh, FYI, you never have been on Site enough to see the rivalry?

[Tom Earp]

Originally Posted by pbear19

Tom. As politely as I am able, I would like to point out that Kansas City and I (and others) were making a tounge-in-cheek commentary to illustrate that the OP's use of 'southwestern region' wasn't the best terminology. Given that the original intent of this thread had absolutely nothing to do with Missouri schools, none of us found it necessary to list every single college or university in MO with a greek system. That would be silly, not snobbish.

If you are intersted in discussing the multitude of greek systems in this fine state, you might consider starting a thread entitled 'Missouri Greeks', rather than listing the schools ad nauseum in a thread called 'Dynamics of Greek Life on campus'.

Coquiporvida - you have my apologies for the huge hijack. One thought - are the NPHC groups on your campus large? SGRho at Truman had I think 4 members when I was undergrad, but they had an uncanny knack for making their presence known, and for interacting with other GLOs. I will always have a ton of respect for that organization because of how those ladies presented themselves. If you have a similar group at MSU, it might be a good group to reach out to for ideas.

Cool, I will be more than happy to turn this task over to you!

[Kansas City]

Originally Posted by Coquiporvida

Although it may not have much to do with how organizations operate internally, it does have a significant impact on how we relate to each other and interact.

Huh? Perhaps I need more of an explanation on how the internal operations of any organization impacts their external interactions with any other organization at MSU. I don't want to be mean but it seems that you are making up a lot of superficial excuses as to why your organizations do not participate with one another.

[Coquiporvida]

Originally Posted by Kansas City

Huh? Perhaps I need more of an explanation on how the internal operations of any organization impacts their external interactions with any other organization at MSU. I don't want to be mean but it seems that you are making up a lot of superficial excuses as to why your organizations do not participate with one another.

No. These are not superficial excuses and the reasons arent as cut in dry. The supposed differences in the Greek comm. here at MSU, are not related to organizations internal interactions. I think that the problem that arises is that we have gotten comfortable within our own organizations occasionally branching out to others who are like minded. Years of disassociation and of course the mentality is engrained in the membership and they continue to perpetuate this. At the heart, can this be looked past, yes. But when you get to where we are now, years of this "two way ignorance" it is hard to "come together". Although significant strides are being made to correct with in our current Greek community. (at MSU)

[Kansas City]

I guess that I'm a bit confused as to what exactly you are hoping to achieve at MSU (or any other college camups) then. As much as I would like to see world peace happen and everybody live harmoniously in a community together, it just isn't going to happen. Now if you can better explain the exact problems that you are looking for a solution to, I'm sure that GC would like to opportunity to assist you.

[Coquiporvida]

Well, I am not looking for the entire Greek community here to hold hands and sing coombya, that wont be happening any time soon. What I and others hope to achieve is a basic understanding of each other, which could potential build into an advantegous relationship. I hope that explains it.