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Old 05-08-2008, 03:43 PM
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Placing these new pledges in this position is uncalled for!

It is called Aggravated Battery, which is a Felony and could be considered attempted homicide!

They should be charged and dismissed from College!
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Old 05-09-2008, 12:13 AM
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I go to Tulane, and I want to assure you all that the situation with Pike is very complex. yes, we are all appalled that this has happened. Our greek community's thoughts and prayers are with the victims and our university and greek office are working hard with the NOPD to bring the individuals responsible to justice. At the same time, we live in a society where individuals are innocent until proven guilty, so let's all remember that. I do want to stand up for our Greek system though. I'm sure you all can appreciate the amount of bad PR our system is getting, and it's really unfortunate that the actions of a few individuals can call the character of an entire Greek system and university into question. So if anyone has questions about the FACTS, or suggestions if your university has faced a similar situation, we would be all ears, but please don't let this site turn into a thread like juicy campus. Thanks!!!
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Old 05-09-2008, 12:19 AM
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FWIW, Pi Kappa Alpha has issued a press release:

International Fraternity Responds to Hazing Allegations at Tulane University

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
May 7, 2008

Contact: Justin A. Buck, Executive Director
The Pi Kappa Alpha International Fraternity

Memorial Headquarters:
8347 West Range Cove
Memphis, TN 38125
Phone: 901.748-1868 x 126
Email: jbuck@pikes.org

Memphis, TN – The Pi Kappa Alpha International Fraternity released the following statement regarding reports involving alleged hazing at Tulane University resulting in the arrest of five students and five other outstanding warrants.

“The International Fraternity condemns the hazing allegations which have just been brought to its attention. Such actions are nothing short of reprehensible, and are completely contrary to the mission, vision, and purpose of our Fraternity, if true. These types of actions represent a betrayal of our core values and the trust that the men who were hurt by these events placed in their fellow students.

“Accordingly, the Supreme Council of the International Fraternity suspended the Eta Chapter of Pi Kappa Alpha indefinitely in response to Tulane University’s withdrawal of recognition and to assist the authorities with their investigation.”

“The International Fraternity will continue to monitor the results of the investigation by Tulane University and local law enforcement in this matter. These injuries appear to be the result of a few unauthorized, misguided individuals and not the entire Chapter.”

“According to the Chapter President, they will fully cooperate with the ongoing police investigation in order to help identify the individuals responsible for this deplorable behavior.”

“The thoughts and prayers of the International Fraternity are with the men who were subjected to this alleged hazing and with their families. We share in the deep disappointment of the entire Tulane family, and concur that those individuals who allegedly committed these acts are not representative of our Fraternity, the Eta Chapter, or Tulane University.”
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Old 05-09-2008, 10:58 AM
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I go to Tulane, and I want to assure you all that the situation with Pike is very complex. yes, we are all appalled that this has happened. Our greek community's thoughts and prayers are with the victims and our university and greek office are working hard with the NOPD to bring the individuals responsible to justice. At the same time, we live in a society where individuals are innocent until proven guilty, so let's all remember that. I do want to stand up for our Greek system though. I'm sure you all can appreciate the amount of bad PR our system is getting, and it's really unfortunate that the actions of a few individuals can call the character of an entire Greek system and university into question. So if anyone has questions about the FACTS, or suggestions if your university has faced a similar situation, we would be all ears, but please don't let this site turn into a thread like juicy campus. Thanks!!!

I think as long as everyone else on campus is thinking the way you are, Tulane Greeks will prevail. If this situation fell upon deaf ears then of course, we all know that the system wouldn't change. If all of the sororities and fraternities stand together and start to educate everyone on campus about hazing and things of the like, it can totally change everyone's outlook on Tulane Greeks. I have many family members and friends who are Greek alumni from Tulane. So hopefully, with alumni and current members support everyone can withstand this situation.

(Now if only we could save Newcomb)
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Old 05-09-2008, 12:13 PM
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Pikes at Tulane

As a Pike at the University of South Florida, I can assure you all that such transgressions are not representative of the entire fraternity, so let us not pass judgement on all Pikes. The allegations of this case are severe, and I can not give my support to any of the people alleged to have committed these heinous crimes; they deserve to be placed in prison. However, if you were to analyze the men involved, they are not the epitome of True Pikes, so they can not be esteemed as such. These guys are the people who find ensuing hilarity in the pain of other individuals, which invalidates them as my brothers. We stand for high moral resolve and we ask for men of the highest caliber who may be deemed as S.L.A.G.'s: scholars, leaders, athletes, and gentlemen. You must be all four, and I know for a fact true SLAGs would never find pleasure in any of these activities.
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Old 05-09-2008, 12:29 PM
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As a Pike at the University of South Florida, I can assure you all that such transgressions are not representative of the entire fraternity, so let us not pass judgement on all Pikes. The allegations of this case are severe, and I can not give my support to any of the people alleged to have committed these heinous crimes; they deserve to be placed in prison. However, if you were to analyze the men involved, they are not the epitome of True Pikes, so they can not be esteemed as such. These guys are the people who find ensuing hilarity in the pain of other individuals, which invalidates them as my brothers. We stand for high moral resolve and we ask for men of the highest caliber who may be deemed as S.L.A.G.'s: scholars, leaders, athletes, and gentlemen. You must be all four, and I know for a fact true SLAGs would never find pleasure in any of these activities.
I don't think you have to worry that the Greek world will pass judgment on all Pikes for the actions of these few men. I'm sure we all know some awesome men from Pi Kappa Alpha. I just worry that the non-Greek world will not be so open minded!
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Old 05-09-2008, 12:38 PM
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I do understand what you are saying, and as a member of a sorority that may be found on USF's campus, I may take consolation in what you are saying as you may represent the opinions of your sorority. However, I do know that Greek-wide we (Pikes) have an infamous reputation of committing crimes such as hazing and date-rape, and I want to stress our disconnection with the chapters in question. They are our brothers, but they do not represent our beautiful fraternity any longer. Also, I do hope the GDI's can look past these transgressions as they look forward to rushing a fraternity or sorority in the future.
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Old 05-09-2008, 01:57 PM
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I don't think you have to worry that the Greek world will pass judgment on all Pikes for the actions of these few men. I'm sure we all know some awesome men from Pi Kappa Alpha. I just worry that the non-Greek world will not be so open minded!
You said a mouthful with your last sentence about non-Greeks.

But, the stigma and stain will still persist no matter what.

As we all know each time something happens in the Greek Community, it is major news and there seems to be plenty of that and an on going problem

I know full well that these members are innocent until proven guilty, but the evidence seems pretty obvious with the burns from scalding water on these Pledges bodies.

Oh, the fun and games that harm or kill people, boy is that fun!

Now, is it not harming all of us?

How much effect will this and the SDSU drug dealing have on all of our futures?

Stupidity and ignorance still prevail!
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Old 05-09-2008, 03:46 PM
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I just found the police report on The Smoking Gun...it's not a pretty story.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...8082frat1.html
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Old 05-09-2008, 03:50 PM
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I do understand what you are saying, and as a member of a sorority that may be found on USF's campus, I may take consolation in what you are saying as you may represent the opinions of your sorority. However, I do know that Greek-wide we (Pikes) have an infamous reputation of committing crimes such as hazing and date-rape, and I want to stress our disconnection with the chapters in question.
Interesting, I never knew that about you guys, but now I do. Thanks for telling me, and everyone else, about that "reputation."
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Old 05-09-2008, 05:58 PM
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PIKES ON CNN: TORTURE at TULANE

Was just watching the news and one our favorite "pseudo-Greeks" came on--Alexandra Robbins. She was being interviewd about the Tulane Pike trainwreck on a story entitled: TORTURE at TULANE. CNN Prime Time showed all the footage of the Pikes being cuffed and herded into the paddy wagon and then more pictures of them and the Tulane campus. They talked about other hazing stories that were going on, including the incident at U.of Tennessee last year.

Then the reporter asked Robbins about her take. She said that she found out with sororities that when campus rules clashed with national chapter rules, the national office rules always trumped the campus ones. While she did not SAY that nationals OKed hazing, that was the undertone, at least to me.

The reporter went on to say that if these guys were out of college, they'd all be charged with major crimes and in jail for a long time. They she talked about Greeks living in a "fantasy" world of college with no responsibilities, etc. There may be a follow up later on; it sounded like this was only a prelude, maybe to a longer story.

UGLY, UGLY, UGLY! (both the story and Robbins' ridiculous take on "Greek entitlement")
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Old 05-09-2008, 07:53 PM
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I just found the police report on The Smoking Gun...it's not a pretty story.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...8082frat1.html
Gooooooooood lawd. Effing idiots. I hope they get time. They'll be super popular in prison, I bet.
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Old 05-10-2008, 09:00 AM
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Was just watching the news and one our favorite "pseudo-Greeks" came on--Alexandra Robbins. She was being interviewd about the Tulane Pike trainwreck on a story entitled: TORTURE at TULANE. CNN Prime Time showed all the footage of the Pikes being cuffed and herded into the paddy wagon and then more pictures of them and the Tulane campus. They talked about other hazing stories that were going on, including the incident at U.of Tennessee last year.

Then the reporter asked Robbins about her take. She said that she found out with sororities that when campus rules clashed with national chapter rules, the national office rules always trumped the campus ones. While she did not SAY that nationals OKed hazing, that was the undertone, at least to me.

The reporter went on to say that if these guys were out of college, they'd all be charged with major crimes and in jail for a long time. They she talked about Greeks living in a "fantasy" world of college with no responsibilities, etc. There may be a follow up later on; it sounded like this was only a prelude, maybe to a longer story.

UGLY, UGLY, UGLY! (both the story and Robbins' ridiculous take on "Greek entitlement")
So because she wrote a semi-nonfiction book about sororities she is now the expert in all things Greek? I think she only made it on tv because these 24 hr news channels have a lot of time to kill!
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Old 05-10-2008, 09:35 AM
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Interesting, I never knew that about you guys, but now I do. Thanks for telling me, and everyone else, about that "reputation."

are you serious?
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Old 05-10-2008, 05:29 PM
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Interesting, I never knew that about you guys, but now I do. Thanks for telling me, and everyone else, about that "reputation."
He's right, just so you know.
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