10 Tulane Pikes Arrested for Hazing

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by jrcampb3

As a Pike at the University of South Florida, I can assure you all that such transgressions are not representative of the entire fraternity, so let us not pass judgement on all Pikes. The allegations of this case are severe, and I can not give my support to any of the people alleged to have committed these heinous crimes; they deserve to be placed in prison. However, if you were to analyze the men involved, they are not the epitome of True Pikes, so they can not be esteemed as such. These guys are the people who find ensuing hilarity in the pain of other individuals, which invalidates them as my brothers. We stand for high moral resolve and we ask for men of the highest caliber who may be deemed as S.L.A.G.'s: scholars, leaders, athletes, and gentlemen. You must be all four, and I know for a fact true SLAGs would never find pleasure in any of these activities.

I don't think you have to worry that the Greek world will pass judgment on all Pikes for the actions of these few men. I'm sure we all know some awesome men from Pi Kappa Alpha. I just worry that the non-Greek world will not be so open minded!

[jrcampb3]

I do understand what you are saying, and as a member of a sorority that may be found on USF's campus, I may take consolation in what you are saying as you may represent the opinions of your sorority. However, I do know that Greek-wide we (Pikes) have an infamous reputation of committing crimes such as hazing and date-rape, and I want to stress our disconnection with the chapters in question. They are our brothers, but they do not represent our beautiful fraternity any longer. Also, I do hope the GDI's can look past these transgressions as they look forward to rushing a fraternity or sorority in the future.

[PeppyGPhiB]

Originally Posted by jrcampb3

I do understand what you are saying, and as a member of a sorority that may be found on USF's campus, I may take consolation in what you are saying as you may represent the opinions of your sorority. However, I do know that Greek-wide we (Pikes) have an infamous reputation of committing crimes such as hazing and date-rape, and I want to stress our disconnection with the chapters in question.

Interesting, I never knew that about you guys, but now I do. Thanks for telling me, and everyone else, about that "reputation."

[PGD-GRAD]

Was just watching the news and one our favorite "pseudo-Greeks" came on--Alexandra Robbins. She was being interviewd about the Tulane Pike trainwreck on a story entitled: TORTURE at TULANE. CNN Prime Time showed all the footage of the Pikes being cuffed and herded into the paddy wagon and then more pictures of them and the Tulane campus. They talked about other hazing stories that were going on, including the incident at U.of Tennessee last year.

Then the reporter asked Robbins about her take. She said that she found out with sororities that when campus rules clashed with national chapter rules, the national office rules always trumped the campus ones. While she did not SAY that nationals OKed hazing, that was the undertone, at least to me.

The reporter went on to say that if these guys were out of college, they'd all be charged with major crimes and in jail for a long time. They she talked about Greeks living in a "fantasy" world of college with no responsibilities, etc. There may be a follow up later on; it sounded like this was only a prelude, maybe to a longer story.

UGLY, UGLY, UGLY! (both the story and Robbins' ridiculous take on "Greek entitlement")

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by PGD-GRAD

Was just watching the news and one our favorite "pseudo-Greeks" came on--Alexandra Robbins. She was being interviewd about the Tulane Pike trainwreck on a story entitled: TORTURE at TULANE. CNN Prime Time showed all the footage of the Pikes being cuffed and herded into the paddy wagon and then more pictures of them and the Tulane campus. They talked about other hazing stories that were going on, including the incident at U.of Tennessee last year.

Then the reporter asked Robbins about her take. She said that she found out with sororities that when campus rules clashed with national chapter rules, the national office rules always trumped the campus ones. While she did not SAY that nationals OKed hazing, that was the undertone, at least to me.

The reporter went on to say that if these guys were out of college, they'd all be charged with major crimes and in jail for a long time. They she talked about Greeks living in a "fantasy" world of college with no responsibilities, etc. There may be a follow up later on; it sounded like this was only a prelude, maybe to a longer story.

UGLY, UGLY, UGLY! (both the story and Robbins' ridiculous take on "Greek entitlement")

So because she wrote a semi-nonfiction book about sororities she is now the expert in all things Greek? I think she only made it on tv because these 24 hr news channels have a lot of time to kill!

[banditone]

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

Interesting, I never knew that about you guys, but now I do. Thanks for telling me, and everyone else, about that "reputation."

are you serious?

[PeppyGPhiB]

Originally Posted by banditone

are you serious?

Yeah I'm serious. We didn't have Pikes at my school, and I knew a couple guys from the UW chapter (not to mention a colleague of mine was their chapter advisor) and they all seemed like good guys. So I've never been given a negative impression of them. My point was that there are plenty of folks that have no knowledge of organizations other than what they may read on the Internet, so it's not in good PR form to say "my organization is known for hazing and raping" on a forum like this.

[exlurker]

Update May 16, 2008: Civil Suit Filed

Station WDSU has a very brief article posted that says a civil lawsuit has been filed by one of the pledges who was allegedly hazed / burned:

http://www.wdsu.com/news/16279499/detail.html

[Rudey]

Since when is it hard to get into tulane?

Also it's not just torture, it's straight up gay torture. Burning genitals? Combine the records of the goons arrested with the campus' greek advisor (who was a real piece of work too and did nothing earlier) and this is mild.

[tuSigDelt]

so... i also go to Tulane and participate in the greek system there. and I would like to set the record straight.

I encourage you all to support the 24 fraternities and sororities at Tulane that are still in good standing by not perpetuating rumors or embellishments of the truth. TWO pledges were injured, TEN were responsible, and the Eta Chapter's charter was nullified both locally and nationally.

These are allegations that will be properly dealt with at the start of the fall semester. Those who are proven to have broken the law will be dealt with both with the state of Louisiana and Tulane Student Affairs. Not to mention that the entire student body knows who these guys are and so they go to class and walk around campus shamed. What I'm saying is that these guys will not get off easy.

That being said, I think it's important to remember this is not the first or last time that something like this has happened- an unfortunate by-product of what's supposed to be one of the better experiences of college. You can't imagine how much publicity Tulane itself has been getting because of this.

to put it nicely, "good riddance" is what pretty much the entire community is thinking at this point. the boys of Pike have had this coming for a long, long time and everybody knows it. Tulane Pike is absolutely NOT indicative of the character or morals of the rest of the greeks on our campus.

On a side note - the average size of sorority pledge classes has, in one year, gone up from about 30 to 50 girls in each of the 6 NPC chapters (AEPhi, Chi O, Theta, Kappa, SDT, Pi Phi). We predict roughly 100 more than last year will go through recruitment in January of 2009.

So for that poster who said our greek system is declining, I'm happy to report that you are mistaken.

Thanks.

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

Interesting, I never knew that about you guys, but now I do. Thanks for telling me, and everyone else, about that "reputation."

He's right, just so you know.

[Tom Earp]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

I don't think you have to worry that the Greek world will pass judgment on all Pikes for the actions of these few men. I'm sure we all know some awesome men from Pi Kappa Alpha. I just worry that the non-Greek world will not be so open minded!

You said a mouthful with your last sentence about non-Greeks.

But, the stigma and stain will still persist no matter what.

As we all know each time something happens in the Greek Community, it is major news and there seems to be plenty of that and an on going problem

I know full well that these members are innocent until proven guilty, but the evidence seems pretty obvious with the burns from scalding water on these Pledges bodies.

Oh, the fun and games that harm or kill people, boy is that fun!

Now, is it not harming all of us?

How much effect will this and the SDSU drug dealing have on all of our futures?

Stupidity and ignorance still prevail!

[AOII Angel]

I just found the police report on The Smoking Gun...it's not a pretty story.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...8082frat1.html

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by AOII Angel

I just found the police report on The Smoking Gun...it's not a pretty story.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...8082frat1.html

Gooooooooood lawd. Effing idiots. I hope they get time. They'll be super popular in prison, I bet.